Mini Normal 2329: complex. [game over!]

[Datisi]

vote count 1.11

with 13 votes in play, it takes 7 to make a decision. day 1 ends in (expired on 2024-03-04 01:00:00).

yeet

Naerys [4]:

Hu Tao, Naerys,

Random Nurse

, davesaz

geraintm [3]:

Klick, Dannflor, Aristeia

Hu Tao [2]:

NotAScum, geraintm

NotAScum [2]:

Psyche, Titus

Psyche [1]:

Political Clout

not voting [1]:

KayJayQueue

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[Dannflor]

I’m going to be sad if the scum team is something like geraint/Titus/KJQ

[Dannflor]

okay like who is the scum playing around naerys being obstinate and selfvoting

like who is bussing her

davesaz?? idk i dont see it

[Dannflor]

I’m going to be sad if the scum team is something like geraint/Titus/KJQ

I think I just wanna lim in this pool today though

[KayJayQueue]

rereading naerys vs hu tao and it just feels like two townies who desperately believe they are Correct

If this becomes the majority consensus, I better start rereading this thread because I focused way too much of my energy on figuring out who I believed on the Hu vs Naerys drama just to realize I should’ve been paying more attention to psyche’s read on NAS or the 3 votes on gera that happened in quick succession.

Oh and like idk

What is stopping you just clicking psyche’s ISO or the post i just quoted and seeing what you think about it right now?

it feels performative to talk about all the work you gotta do or that you might have to do or that you should’ve done before because if you’re town and genuinely interested in solving, i don’t get why your energies aren’t just focused on doing the solving now

pedit: drew (titus’ predecessor) made posts! What do you think of those??

I can’t do anything about you thinking I’m being “performative”, that’s just how I express myself. And it seems a big unfair to assume I’m not focused on solving things, I’ve been giving this game a lot of my attention. Some things I felt more strongly about and that’s where my attention went. If things I wasn’t giving as much thought to begin to gain steam, I’m just being honest when I say I need to take a better look.

You seem to be jumping on everything I do trying to find a reason to sus me. Yeah, that’s the game, I get it, sus everyone but honestly, it’s getting a bit exhausting. I don’t even have a scum read on you, if anything, being cautious about me is normal as it would be for anyone. I didn’t think anything of it at first. I still think you’re probably more likely town but whatever problem you seem to have with me might get in the way of us working together.

Maybe I’m just overreacting right now because I just worked 59 hours in the past 4 days and I’m mentally drained and still trying to have fun playing this game. I’ll try not to overthink on this since I don’t think pushing back against you is helping us.

[KayJayQueue]

I understand being anxious. Also, please feel free to ask questions and ask about game terms and also to change your mind and be uncertain. No one is going to get annoyed.

to be frank, my issue right now is that I can’t distinguish whether you are town too anxious about being wrong, or mafia using that as a front to look good

I wrote that long ass post in response to your previous post before I saw this and your tone actually feels completely different and genuine here so maybe I just need to sleep.

At least it makes me feel better about thinking you’re probably town.

Anyway. Carry on.

[Dannflor]

I think I’ll find you as town if you are town

I don’t want to make this game not fun for you and I’m sorry if you’re feeling that way

I’ll lay off you I just wanted to express how I’m reading you because it looks like I’m the only person in the game reading you that way

anyway if you’d like to talk about other slots im happy to do that

[KayJayQueue]

Doctor Drew felt very one dimensional

I interacted with him only a couple times and we had seemingly opposite reads. I was neutral on him before he was replaced. I’m more interested in the views of the current player.

[Dannflor]

for what it’s worth i suddenly feel better about you

[Random Nurse]

rereading naerys vs hu tao and it just feels like two townies who desperately believe they are Correct

Eg, I don't see it.

Gut's screaming at me that one of'em is a wolf.

I play primarily on gut.

[Random Nurse]

I dunno.

Which wagons have had the most resistance si far?

In my experience on Day 1 it's like there's always gonna be major resistance early on a Dcum Wagon, and Scum will typically join on later if it starts looking inevitable.

[Random Nurse]

And there was like NO resistance to my fail wagon until I played Uno Reverse card.

[geraintm]

vote count 1.11

with 13 votes in play, it takes 7 to make a decision. day 1 ends in (expired on 2024-03-04 01:00:00).

yeet

Naerys [4]:

Hu Tao, Naerys,

Random Nurse

, davesaz

VOTE: naerys

[KayJayQueue]

rereading naerys vs hu tao and it just feels like two townies who desperately believe they are Correct

Eg, I don't see it.

Gut's screaming at me that one of'em is a wolf.

I play primarily on gut.

I’d rather eliminate neither than both. Because I feel like no matter which one goes, the other will be pushed immediately after.

I think I pretty much understand the reasoning on NAS, not fully sure I buy that line of thinking but at least I understand the why.

Can someone help me understand the geraintm vote? I need to eventually choose a direction here.

[Random Nurse]

Dann, I want to think you're Town. Can I level with you?

What do you think about NAS twice now saying he'll get back to me and then just doesn't? What do you think about Naerys shutting down and refusing to engage? To me it says they're trying to avoid me, hide from me, not wanting to answer my questions... which makes me want to come after them even more.

[Psyche]

It’s kinda whack psyche doesn’t like interact with the hu tao v naerys debacle like one bit

i mean besides being vaguely annoyed by melodrama

if it turns out to have held any useful information ill apologize in postgame
but if it’s tvt just like you said then i’m right not to waste the energy

[Psyche]

the page provides an entire system for classifying self-votes and explains in detail how each type of self vote could come from scum

or

from town.

then the only sentence from which it can be gleaned that anyone thinks self-voting is a scumtell is:
"While this practice is commonly seen as scum-indicative, no data has been compiled on the actual effectiveness of self-voting as a towntell or a scumtell."
this is arguably the most disapproving way that a writer could conceivably share that information without openly abandoning wikipedia's editorial guidelines

but someone clinging to the mafia wiki for dear life took the exact opposite message home?
it does not pass the smell test

i dont know this feels like a genre of case i would make as scum

like it’s so logical that it misses the illogical ideas that

1) the wiki link being posted was clearly just a cute rhetorical point

2) people dont actually read

1) no it wasn’t
2) doesn’t matter for my case

[Random Nurse]

rereading naerys vs hu tao and it just feels like two townies who desperately believe they are Correct

Eg, I don't see it.

Gut's screaming at me that one of'em is a wolf.

I play primarily on gut.

I’d rather eliminate neither than both. Because I feel like no matter which one goes, the other will be pushed immediately after.

I think I pretty much understand the reasoning on NAS, not fully sure I buy that line of thinking but at least I understand the why.

Can someone help me understand the geraintm vote? I need to eventually choose a direction here.

I don't think that's a bad thing.

You have to remember we'd be getting invaluable data, especially when it comes to who will/refuses to vote.

To be frank your indecisiveness trips my gut in that it slightly feels feigned—don't take offense it is what it is.

[Psyche]

will be so sweet when i’m proven right about all this. yall waste so much text on things that don’t matter

[geraintm]

rereading naerys vs hu tao and it just feels like two townies who desperately believe they are Correct

Eg, I don't see it.

Gut's screaming at me that one of'em is a wolf.

I play primarily on gut.

I’d rather eliminate neither than both. Because I feel like no matter which one goes, the other will be pushed immediately after.

I think I pretty much understand the reasoning on NAS, not fully sure I buy that line of thinking but at least I understand the why.

Can someone help me understand the geraintm vote? I need to eventually choose a direction here.

Voted longest wagon

[Random Nurse]

will be so sweet when i’m proven right about all this. yall waste so much text on things that don’t matter

Oh, well then do explain to us what you think does matter right now.

[KayJayQueue]

Well originally I had voted Naerys. I took my vote away for two reasons. The reason I just mentioned about not wanting to eliminate both Naerys and Hu (mainly because I am town reading Hu) but also because Naerys was getting close to elimination and I didn’t want the day to end that early. I feel like I’ve learned a lot since I took my vote off so I stand by my decision.

[Random Nurse]

rereading naerys vs hu tao and it just feels like two townies who desperately believe they are Correct

Eg, I don't see it.

Gut's screaming at me that one of'em is a wolf.

I play primarily on gut.

I’d rather eliminate neither than both. Because I feel like no matter which one goes, the other will be pushed immediately after.

I think I pretty much understand the reasoning on NAS, not fully sure I buy that line of thinking but at least I understand the why.

Can someone help me understand the geraintm vote? I need to eventually choose a direction here.

Voted longest wagon

I don't particularly like that reasoning.

[KayJayQueue]

will be so sweet when i’m proven right about all this. yall waste so much text on things that don’t matter

Oh, well then do explain to us what you think does matter right now.

I have an inkling the answer is going to be about a wiki for some reason.

[geraintm]

will be so sweet when i’m proven right about all this. yall waste so much text on things that don’t matter

Oh, well then do explain to us what you think does matter right now.

Nothing matters.
I honestly just want today to end so we can get on with the proper game, when we can get some night actions in and people aren't just talking in the dark.
I expect in this game, what with it being complex, that we should be able to narrow things down even quicker than normal and we are just expending energy now on nothing that will count by the end of the game.