Mini Normal 2329: complex. [game over!]

[KayJayQueue]

I don’t want the day to end until Titus says something even mildly substantial.

[Random Nurse]

will be so sweet when i’m proven right about all this. yall waste so much text on things that don’t matter

Oh, well then do explain to us what you think does matter right now.

Nothing matters.
I honestly just want today to end so we can get on with the proper game, when we can get some night actions in and people aren't just talking in the dark.
I expect in this game, what with it being complex, that we should be able to narrow things down even quicker than normal and we are just expending energy now on nothing that will count by the end of the game.

I can understand that. Usually I operate with that intent as Town Day 1, because it's a challenge sussing out Scum that phase. Then again if we use this time to force players to make choices and moves we can judge them on it later as the walls start to close in.

[KayJayQueue]

VOTE: NotaScum

Votes immediately after joining and only says hi before changing the vote from psyche to NAS, but with no explanation.

What’s getting me is that Naerys still has a self vote on her…I just don’t get that logic. It’s making me think twice but maybe that’s the point. I don’t know what I’m

supposed

to think about that move.

Exactly my thoughts. Of course I haven't read.

Admits to not having read, so what informed the NAS vote?

Aside from the self vote, why Naeyrs? Why geratum?

Okay, good questions, but also - then why NAS?

[Psyche]

it’s because nas is scummm

[KayJayQueue]

it’s because nas is scummm

And that may be true but right now I’m more interested in how they came to that conclusion before they read and/or what other things they’ve picked up since joining.

[Random Nurse]

You know, Aristeia has posted less than a third of the time that Dave has, and Dave usually posts infrequently. Just raises my eyebrow a bit.

[Random Nurse]

Titus also barely posting makes me wonder, considering they're usually tearing into it.

[Psyche]

in my last game w titus they were also pretty gone, and town
of course the nas vote and drew's iso makes me substantially lean town on the slot

[Psyche]

im sry for being so grumpy
ive been sick for like ten days now and it's very tedious
i hope it's almost over...

[Random Nurse]

im sry for being so grumpy
ive been sick for like ten days now and it's very tedious
i hope it's almost over...

Did you try any homemade chicken soup?

[NotAScum]

Dann, I want to think you're Town. Can I level with you?

What do you think about NAS twice now saying he'll get back to me and then just doesn't? What do you think about Naerys shutting down and refusing to engage? To me it says they're trying to avoid me, hide from me, not wanting to answer my questions... which makes me want to come after them even more.

I've not tried to avoid you, I didn't have much time for the past few days and am going to answer your questions now. From the oldest to newest.

@NotAScum, I’d like your input on the last two pages regarding my interactions, please.

Naerys didn't seem to even bother answering any of the questions towards her. Very short replies, mostly "no" and "no i wont". It's not exactly very townlike behavior, on the other hand it also feels like shes maybe tired or frustrated with something to answer something lengthy. I hope she gets around to it and goes through all the queries one by one. But she's not stricking me as the most scummy either, considering when you have someone like Hu Tao.

hi

Did you see my post directed towards you?

Yes, I can see it now XD

Maybe he misread or misunderstood it.

You can be wrong and still Town.

I'd like to hear NAS clarify this.

Could you please explain why you voted for Hu Tao at this point, NAS?

The answer to both these questions are the same and I explained it before few times. I was reading wiki to see if self-vote means anything and as HT jumped on a train before I thought jumping on a wagon + self-vote = scummy. Linked the wiki article here to avoid writing a long answer as I didn't have much time then and I thought people will see my reasoning from the wiki which at least one person clearly doesnt. When later asked on about this, I explained my reasoning which was interpreted by that one person as shifting my reasonings lol. Looking back, I think I should've explained my reasoning when voting than later on to avoid explaining multiple times the exact same thing.

[Random Nurse]

Psyche, what is your response?

[geraintm]

will be so sweet when i’m proven right about all this. yall waste so much text on things that don’t matter

Oh, well then do explain to us what you think does matter right now.

Nothing matters.
I honestly just want today to end so we can get on with the proper game, when we can get some night actions in and people aren't just talking in the dark.
I expect in this game, what with it being complex, that we should be able to narrow things down even quicker than normal and we are just expending energy now on nothing that will count by the end of the game.

I can understand that. Usually I operate with that intent as Town Day 1, because it's a challenge sussing out Scum that phase. Then again if we use this time to force players to make choices and moves we can judge them on it later as the walls start to close in.

But forcing players to place votes just ends up in a cycle of claims being forced out of people, and the 1st person who claims vanilla gets it. Scum love days like that.

[Titus]

VOTE: NotaScum

Votes immediately after joining and only says hi before changing the vote from psyche to NAS, but with no explanation.

What’s getting me is that Naerys still has a self vote on her…I just don’t get that logic. It’s making me think twice but maybe that’s the point. I don’t know what I’m

supposed

to think about that move.

Exactly my thoughts. Of course I haven't read.

Admits to not having read, so what informed the NAS vote?

Aside from the self vote, why Naeyrs? Why geratum?

Okay, good questions, but also - then why NAS?

I routinely vote for vca. I read people by their reactions to wagons. I'd be surprised by dueling town wagons here this far from deadline.

[Titus]

it’s because nas is scummm

And that may be true but right now I’m more interested in how they came to that conclusion before they read and/or what other things they’ve picked up since joining.

It's a mistake to conclude I have deduced anyone is scum at this point. My vote is my power and I intend to use it that way. I set us up long term. I do have a pocket scumread based on the last few pages.

[Titus]

Well two depending on flips.

[Titus]

I’m going to be sad if the scum team is something like geraint/Titus/KJQ

I think I just wanna lim in this pool today though

The only one that can be scum here is geratim. However, why is your vote not there?

[KayJayQueue]

it’s because nas is scummm

And that may be true but right now I’m more interested in how they came to that conclusion before they read and/or what other things they’ve picked up since joining.

It's a mistake to conclude I have deduced anyone is scum at this point. My vote is my power and I intend to use it that way. I set us up long term. I do have a pocket scumread based on the last few pages.

I guess that makes sense (honestly I’m guessing that it

should

make sense, I’m going to have to wait and see because I don’t know what VCA is exactly). You seem to have a lot of experience playing like a good handful of others in this game and I just wanted to know where your head was at but I didn’t really know what to expect.

My conclusion: that didn’t help me much lol

[Titus]

for what it’s worth i suddenly feel better about you

Why?

[Titus]

Well originally I had voted Naerys. I took my vote away for two reasons. The reason I just mentioned about not wanting to eliminate both Naerys and Hu (mainly because I am town reading Hu) but also because Naerys was getting close to elimination and I didn’t want the day to end that early. I feel like I’ve learned a lot since I took my vote off so I stand by my decision.

Why would they be a package deal?

[Titus]

Doctor Drew what do you think about voting either Naerys or Hu?

Naughty point

This is the sole substantive mention of Naerys. Yet now geratim wants to end the day fast.

[Random Nurse]

I’m going to be sad if the scum team is something like geraint/Titus/KJQ

I think I just wanna lim in this pool today though

The only one that can be scum here is geratim. However, why is your vote not there?

Is it just me or is this a bit tunnely and, dare I say, distancy?

[Titus]

it’s because nas is scummm

And that may be true but right now I’m more interested in how they came to that conclusion before they read and/or what other things they’ve picked up since joining.

It's a mistake to conclude I have deduced anyone is scum at this point. My vote is my power and I intend to use it that way. I set us up long term. I do have a pocket scumread based on the last few pages.

I guess that makes sense (honestly I’m guessing that it

should

make sense, I’m going to have to wait and see because I don’t know what VCA is exactly). You seem to have a lot of experience playing like a good handful of others in this game and I just wanted to know where your head was at but I didn’t really know what to expect.

My conclusion: that didn’t help me much lol

VCA is looking at votes and determining alignments from there. See Titus academy. Warning: It still has the L word.

[Titus]

Titus also barely posting makes me wonder, considering they're usually tearing into it.

I’m going to be sad if the scum team is something like geraint/Titus/KJQ

I think I just wanna lim in this pool today though

The only one that can be scum here is geratim. However, why is your vote not there?

Is it just me or is this a bit tunnely and, dare I say, distancy?

Lol. These do not compute.

[Titus]

Oh VCA stands for vote count analysis.