Mini Normal 2329: complex. [game over!]

[Klick]

you want to eliminate her because she hasn't jumped through your hoops, that doesn't make me confident that your scum read has a high chance of being accurate

ding ding

[Klick]

I feel like a good half of this playerlist is kind of just rolling with whatever suspicion their brain can cook up and treating it like it's particularly likely and worth pushing instead of taking the next step and evaluating its accuracy. And that has me demotivated

[geraintm]

another town game lost
warning: Hu is really good as scum

Luckily I am town this game.

That's exactly what town you would say!

[geraintm]

I think Titus is the bait. I'm a no on Titus today

im confused by this, last vote count had zero votes on titus?

[geraintm]

i don't really understand the concept of titus being "bait from scum"

meaning scum are pushing titus as a miselim option? who is doing this?

glad someone else spotted this. just looked at the vote count top of this page and again no votes on Titus. seems only person mentioning them is Dannflor

[geraintm]

my god random nurse

there is resistance to the naerys wagon because she's town and scum don't want to look shitty for hopping on the wagon of the easy self-voting target

there is no way you can say naerys is town like that on day 1

[geraintm]

Meh, I feel like me not being here is bullshit of repetition.

I also think pc and geratim share an alignment most likely given the wagon movement. Based on play, I feel it's town. I'm getting pushback for highlighting how bullshit that vote from Ari was.

not sure why you ar elinking us. i dont think ive intereacted with them?

[geraintm]

Meh, I feel like me not being here is bullshit of repetition.

I also think pc and geratim share an alignment most likely given the wagon movement. Based on play, I feel it's town. I'm getting pushback for highlighting how bullshit that vote from Ari was.

ok Titus

tell me why it's bullshit for me to sheep Dannflor/Klick in this game state.

This is how I read this game state and why;

Naerys is the "it wagon" it's got about 4-5 votes, she's being pushed by the IC, as long as that grouping remains intact pretty much no other wagon is going to be "impactful"

If Naerys is town and there's 4 town voters + 1 scum voter on Naerys; it leaves eight votes outside of the Naerys cluster, 2 of which are mafia. I don't think you'll find more than 1 mafia voter because if Naerys is town this is one of those self-immolation plays that scum usually just sit on the sidelines for.

So in that game state, me voting by myself is literally pointless to me because no mafia is ever going to feel "pressured" by my one vote with so many town votes stuck on Naerys. The only way to generate information in such a game state is to vote with other people to try to create threats to the current status quo of the game state. If I do not work to change the narrative, the present course just gets pushed through and it's basically punting on the day.

i dislike this post, way too much speculation based on quicksand

[NotAScum]

Dude, you couldve quoted multiple times in one reply rather than making 6 different posts smh. This is sus behavior, feels like youre increasing post counts for some ulterior reason.

[geraintm]

Dude, you couldve quoted multiple times in one reply rather than making 6 different posts smh. This is sus behavior, feels like youre increasing post counts for some ulterior reason.

Is this a serious read on me?
Multi quoting on phone is hell

[Political Clout]

i recant any post suggesting political clout is scum

If anything, these pages push PC further to scum for me.

an explanation of why so other people can see would be helpful by other people I mean me of course :)

[Political Clout]

what did drew do that made you think he was townie?

I liked some of his questions

what questions did you like and what made you think that made him town?

[KayJayQueue]

another town game lost
warning: Hu is really good as scum

Do you have anything ended to add to the discussion besides your opinion on Hu Tao? Why do you still have a self-vote on you? Do you just not care about getting eliminated?

[Political Clout]

I feel like a good half of this playerlist is kind of just rolling with whatever suspicion their brain can cook up and treating it like it's particularly likely and worth pushing instead of taking the next step and evaluating its accuracy. And that has me demotivated

like who in the playerlist can I have an example of this?

[Titus]

Titus, do you have opinions on anyone else?

Leaning scum on Dan. He's opposing everything I'm saying rather than working with me.

I'm concerned about Wake, but that could be real life.

I like pc, ger, hu tao and kay.

[Titus]

I expect town Dan to see I'm town.

[Aristeia]

I'm concerned about Wake, but that could be real life.

Wake is an alt slip of Random Nurse who is the IC

if you're town you might want to take the time to get the basic facts of the game right before going off on someone for "not working with you"

[Political Clout]

I'm concerned about Wake, but that could be real life.

Wake is an alt slip of Random Nurse who is the IC

if you're town you might want to take the time to get the basic facts of the game right before going off on someone for "not working with you"

do you think town or scum make that kind of post?

[Aristeia]

do you think town or scum make that kind of post?

probly town

[Titus]

Oh on Wake.

[KayJayQueue]

For those leaning town on Naerys, could you please help me understand that read? I’ve been trying to but I keep reading her posts, but all
it does is frustrate me and doesn’t help me feel better about her at all. I’m trying to land my vote between Naerys and PC right now since it seems it’s one or the other here. Even Hu has backed off Naerys so I don’t know what to think. Of the 4 players I feel best about, currently 2 are voting Naerys and 2 are voting PC.

[Political Clout]

For those leaning town on Naerys, could you please help me understand that read? I’ve been trying to but I keep reading her posts, but all
it does is frustrate me and doesn’t help me feel better about her at all. I’m trying to land my vote between Naerys and PC right now since it seems it’s one or the other here. Even Hu has backed off Naerys so I don’t know what to think. Of the 4 players I feel best about, currently 2 are voting Naerys and 2 are voting PC.

I'm confused why us two? just because we are the biggest wagons? their is still 5 days left. any opinions on anyone else? who are the 4 players you feel best about and why? what led you to think they're town or lean town to you?

[davesaz]

I don't see Naerys as town primarily because she doesn't put her vote where her feelings are.
If she really believes Hu Tao is scum and town will lose, she needs to actually show it.

[Political Clout]

I don't see Naerys as town primarily because she doesn't put her vote where her feelings are.
If she really believes Hu Tao is scum and town will lose, she needs to actually show it.

if naerys voted hu tao you wouldn't think they were scum anymore?

[davesaz]

I'm feeling this Random Nurse guy is probably a town. Don't ask me how I deduced that.

either he is the best newb scum player in the world or he has no idea what is going on in this game.

maybe you just can't read humor

I can see that joke being made when mod announced that rn was town sided not almost 35 pages or something later.

I don't think town uses something like 964 as the reason to townbin someone. Town defending town would be more invested in finding actual AI stuff to point to. It feels like the purpose of this is to try to look town, not to advance the actual game state.

anyone pushing that it's a joke without asking notascum clearly has ulterior motives.

Assuming it’s not a joke just feels like insulting their intelligence…I made a similar joke when RN said he thinks it could be any of us 12 and I said I narrowed it down to 11 (because we have 1 cleared), does that mean I have ulterior motives? lol

yes actually

You’re right, my motive was to be funny. Doesn’t mean it worked but that was definitely the aim.

In all seriousness though, really? We can’t even make jokes?

I don't know your alignment.

Same deal, different player. Trying to look town, but using something that doesn't really advance the game because it doesn't have real meaning.

anyone pushing that it's a joke without asking notascum clearly has ulterior motives.

Assuming it’s not a joke just feels like insulting their intelligence…I made a similar joke when RN said he thinks it could be any of us 12 and I said I narrowed it down to 11 (because we have 1 cleared), does that mean I have ulterior motives? lol

yes actually

You’re right, my motive was to be funny. Doesn’t mean it worked but that was definitely the aim.

In all seriousness though, really? We can’t even make jokes?

By I don't know your alignment I can expand on that. I mean You could just be making a joke as either alignment, or you could be trying to fit into the thread as red, or you could just making a joke as green. that's all. there is a lot for me to consider before I accept in a game of social deduction where people are actively trying to obfuscate their alignment that yeah it was just a joke. I don't even remember you making that joke and it's not something I'm considering in depth tbh.

Lots of words to basically say "never mind I wasn't really serious about this joke thing".