Open 905: Pick Your Power X/Y S/S [game over!]

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VOTE: brian skies

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pneguinpower i declare that ur my mason

I concur. It’s why we’re voting together.

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Off to a good start.

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ducky

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Fun note: I chose four because it is an unlucky number in Japanese. How lucky.

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ohh i just realized this probably means u got the vig shot penguin. can't wait to see who u nuke. Got to bring back officer penguin with the nuke ride once u do it

Sorry to disappoint. I chose VT.

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WHY WOULDNT U WANT TO BE NUKE PENGUIN.

U HAD SUCH GOOD SHOTS IN DEFCON

I used all my luck getting the top pick and got scared.

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if i was pretending to solve the game, I would go with June as one scum.
But I am not pretending to solve right now.

I am too busy chilling in the PT with penguinpower, talking about anime

ur smokin crack June is town

This level of confidence is interesting to me. For what reasons do you find June so overwhelmingly town that you would respond to another's suspicion in this way? Why not allow the suspicion to play out for more information, then assert your read and reasoning?

June seems cool. Its also unlikely she would lost some of her posts if she is mafia.

No gurrenter though but im not limming her todya

Everyone knows that scum can’t be cool and experience technical issues. Duh.

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Lost some of her posts? Usually you lose posts due to technical issues…

It’s ruins the sarcasm if you make me explain it.

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smh

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goddammit dats

I had to edit twice.

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Almost certainly.

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Bribery.

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I TRIED THAT

Guess he’s just better at acts of corruption.

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That sounds unpleasant.

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Doesn’t sound like good consolation.

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Of course he does.

I

am

the best bird as he well knows.

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I'm at the airport and I feel like I'm forgetting something very important. Please post things I might be forgetting

Me too!

But forgot nothing.

Except my phone charger.

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Lucky

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Are you at the same airport I will share

Dulles?

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Too late. I’m boarding now.

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Not too late if we are on the same flight but I haven't been to Dulles since 2021 or 2022

Dulles is the dope one with the magic things that are like untrackd trolleys right

Yep.

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the worst do u want to be a mason, penguinpower wants u in the club

absolutely not ive got my own masonry going

It’s called the scum PT isn’t it?

Why do you have to do this to me ducky?!

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VOTE: ducky

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Because I am best bird.

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I’m voting you because you refused to join the masonry.

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Penguin i have work travel planned out for all of next month. WHY THEY DO THIS TO ME

To make you do buissness work

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Alright. Back later. This flightless bird must go into airplane mode and take flight.

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So much spam, from former listmods even
I'm not against fun on principle, but the scrolling to get to real stuff...

wut?

I’ve always played like this. What does me being former staff have to do with anything?

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May can be town for saying “anecdata.”

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So much spam, from former listmods even
I'm not against fun on principle, but the scrolling to get to real stuff...

wut?

I’ve always played like this. What does me being former staff have to do with anything?

It means that you have to play like a pro, of course!

C'mon Penguin, where's the D1 out-of-rvs final solve?

It’s in my mason PT.

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Can I be in the masonry?

It would require warmpup's blessing, but since ducky backed out...maybe.

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ur the mason leader, penguinpower

Fine...provisional membership granted.

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I would recommend not taking it so seriously if that's your takeaway.

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oh yay, wagons

VOTE: brian skies

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oh yay, wagons

VOTE: brian skies

what was this for? They seem good to me

you've quoted the answer

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nah

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i'm not a perfect person...

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FUCK this penguin power guy

VOTE: PenguinPower

Nobody disrespects me like that and gets away with it

there's many things I wish I didn't do

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Ill trust you blindly, idc. PenguinPower is a different case though.

but i continue learning

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You've done a lot of things that make curious about your alignment this game pp

i never meant to do those things to you

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Im starting to really like pp

and so, i have to say before i go that i just want you to know

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I hope you take the lead this game

i've found a reason for me to change who I used to be

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PenguinPower: Posting on page 7 feels town.

Why my posts on page 7 specifically?

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impossible thoever

a reason to start over new

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nice new avi penguinpower

and the reason is you

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PP in here quoting a whole nickelback song, screaming for a policy lim

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do NOT compare hoobastank to nickleback

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never made it as a wise man

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are we havin' fun yet?

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I'm gonna consider that a yes even though I hate you now

Anyway, Jake scum

Why? He assured me that he had a yellow role PM.

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You were just supposed to disagree on principle

At least you stopped quoting bad music at me

look at this photograph

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Can you explain it to me then?

my vote made the top two wagons even. that was the sole reason that i voted mr. dr. brian skies.

thus why i said "oh yay, wagons" and voted

since you quoted me saying "oh yay, wagons" and voting and responded that you've quoted the answer.

D1 the answer is always wagons

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I'm going to be honest. I had to squint to figure out what I was thinking last night. But it boils down to me liking your posting around voting ducky for refusing the masonry, which felt natural.

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VOTE: yessiree

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we need to lim may i think

i am against this

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look at this photograph

i already said this!

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i'd be fine with a gob yeet

he doesn't get me and i don't like explaining myself

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VOTE: davesaz

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VOTE: davesaz

no thoughts on my vote on you??

your votes on me...

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i'd be fine with a gob yeet

he doesn't get me and i don't like explaining myself

Its okay someone else explained

i...i explained it to you

what is going on with you?

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show me the fish

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that is not a tasty looking fish

pass

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idk bout may, but i certainly can't be

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june, i'm really sorry, but pp is back to being my favourite poster in this game

<3

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happy chocobo day everyone

this is my formal notice that as of 5:30pm central standard time my presence here will be lessened due to the celebration of said chocobo day (try not to be too sad at your loss, i shall return)

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mr. dr. brian skies can be town

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This is why I have to keep you alive.

good thing that i am definitely a vt and not something like a vig or anything

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Most of the slots are town so gob is probably town

And what of his posts? Do they spark joy?

if by "joy" you mean "make me question my own perception of reality" then...yes

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i am everyone's alt and no one's alt all the same time

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im kind of worried penguin hasn't given a take on me but then i remember penguin usually doesn't give takes on me till like day 2

you're my mason buddy until i can actually make a somewhat informed assessment of your alignment and that ain't happening D1

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not that it matters since it's completely hypothetical...but, ducky - i'm still hurt over his rejection to the masonry.

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Why does no one like straight vodka

i do

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Pp is pocketing me

Yup.

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Orange

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not that it matters since it's completely hypothetical...but, ducky - i'm still hurt over his rejection to the masonry.

i'm hypothetically hurt! i'm hypothetically easier to solve later and not that hard to lim

hypothetically

no worries ducky...i'm a vt

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Any thoughts on the very spread out vote count, with many people voting players who are virtually certain to have a PR?

rephrased: "can you believe there are two people voting me?"

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saves me a hypothetical vig shot

VOTE: ducky

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Is anybody solving yet or are we still twiddling our bits?

I just wanna plan my weekend

I have already solved.

But, I’m playing FFVII so you’ll have to wait.

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I defer to warmpup for today.

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Yes. That’s why said yesterday was chocobo day.

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The not voting people should vote or we should vote the not voting people.

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because votes = info

i didn't say "let's lim someone now!"

i said do something instead of doing nothing

ty for doing something

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I wish May (and others, just picking a recent example) would learn how to use the enter key and put more than one thought in a post, especially when it's a thought about the exact same topic.
I'd have to read (a lot) to know if it's scummy, but it's definitely making scumhunting harder and that's anti-town at a minimum and possibly even scummy.

I wish others would play exactly how I want as well.

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Um…no.

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K

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VOTE: PenguinPower

Run it up everyone. This person is scum most likely. Their jump onto worst is bad or something

lol - I’m not sure you are even aware you were already voting me.

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VOTE: PenguinPower

Run it up everyone. This person is scum most likely. Their jump onto worst is bad or something

lol - I’m not sure you are even aware you were already voting me.

I was. Glad to know u were aware of it too. Makes me more assured u r scum

he got u there penguin,
ur basic awareness is sure scummy

Damn. Better luck next game I guess.

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Ducks are just more powerful penguins anyway.

How dare you.

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dave i kinda expected a vote on pavowski to follow 863

That might be a good idea in a different setup.

Even in this setup, it would be a natural idea. If Pavlovski were scum, the setup would make finding this out even more pressing.

dave is against voting people high up in the draft order because it's likely they got prs (even though I'm the only one guaranteed player to have one, if i hadn't selected VT, given that dave or june or pavowski could have chosen a pair that one of the players higher up in the order did).

I don't disagree with him on the whole, but not to the point that i would refuse to vote one of them.

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that only applies to d1...shouldn't need to specify that, but for some reason i feel i should

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Them likely being PRs is not the same as them being likely town PRs.

no duh.

While they are likely to be town just from the odds alone, if they are scum then it would be rather pressing that we find that out sooner rather than later.

the point is not to needlessly run them up to claim level given what you just said - odds alone they are town - so sort them d2 onward.

It is not in defiance of their PR status that we may vote them, but instead because of this status that we must vote them. Not to execute, but to extort.

already said i didn't have problem voting them (though dave does). vote them all you want if you have a reason to. i already did.

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back to ffvii

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[...]

While they are likely to be town just from the odds alone, if they are scum then it would be rather pressing that we find that out sooner rather than later.

the point is not to needlessly run them up to claim level given what you just said - odds alone they are town - so sort them d2 onward.
[...]

If anyone here were to try forcing someone to claim today via wagoning, they are either a fool or a wolf.

You don't wagon people D1 because you're looking for PRs, you wagon people to get them to react, to extort a response from them.

You do realize that’s it’s a frequent occurrence and standard practice that e-1 wagons claim…and this happens frequently…you do realize this, right?

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I wonder how many times you’ve played a PYP game….

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Then probably don’t do that.

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dave what’s the point of being like “yeah look at how sus pavowski is” if you never intend to vote there or support a wagon there today

Is this a real question?

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meh Dave can be town

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mindmeld over your weird question.

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i asked because without the context of dave's approach to the role list, it very much looks like support for the recently growing pavowski wagon

idk it's a little strange to me to dump a comment like that but also not really show concern over the fact that the wagon is growing around those suspicions at the same time if you truly believe such a wagon is anti-town

Literally what? I have no idea what you are trying to say here.

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It was in the context of a discussion. So…end point?

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Oh god. Dann being scum would make me very unhappy.

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Gob I'm enjoying your presence a lot in this game and idk if its because I'm town or because you're town or what.

Interesting. I’m town and I am not.

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Weird thought. Could it be because gob voted your counter wagon?

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Nah. That’s too weird.

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I mean if ducky goes today I’m hypothetically shooting gob tonight regardless of the flip.

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Yeah. I’m not actually going to answer that.

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I already answered in the mason pt.

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Maybe it’s gob.

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Not really

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Humor me.

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Mmmm…ok. I’ll reread that tomorrow. I have been distracted today.

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maybe its jake the wolfie

Maybe it’s gob.

Maybe it's Maybelline

Quite good…very well done.

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where does the idea that firebringer is an easy late game read come from

Where did

this

come from?

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What a throwback (and good post to quote when asking that question).

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Also a good question for May to answer.

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It’s a question that would be good for May to answer regardless…instead of being asked to the general playerbase.

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We are not killing the second in the draft order D1.

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Post D1 is different.

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We are not killing the second in the draft order D1.

By this logic, if scum outdraft is we essentially are burning townies and eliminations for fun and profit to avoid hitting potential roles?

Did you miss where I said this was restricted to D1?

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how about the 4th in the draft order

You really are making a case for you over gob.

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im not scared of a penguin with a gun

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Weird thought. Could it be because gob voted your counter wagon?

nooo I was enjoying him before that vote

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So…even more reason to hypokill gob. Got it.

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From its perspective, it thinks that Dave is leveraging his draft position and his nature to make counter logical arguments to shift wagons away from specific targets. It wrote about this in a post... let it grab it for you. It thinks Dave is scum trying to control how this phase goes for the sake of a strategy.

Okay and you think that strategy benefits scum? Or is this theory talking about how it could possibly benefit scum depending on where they landed in draft. Cause now we are speculating on speculating. If you think he is providing a strategy he thinks is beneficial to scum and twisting it to say its beneficial for town.

We in business.
I doubt thats the case because hell even when im scum i usually tell town what I legit think is the best town strategy to do. I usually do this because I think town is gonna ignore me regardless, but also people will townread me for pushing it as well.

It thinks the following three things.

It thinks Pav is an easy target and its experience says easy targets rarely flip scum, at least, not the way Pav looks.

It thinks Dave's behaviour indicates that there is a deeper agenda behind his moves that don't match his words, and that he is behaving in a way that harms town.

It thinks that as a result, Dave probably has a partner that is under fire he is protecting from being a wagon or is possibly a wagon that might tip over, and so is directing towards Pav as a result.

That's its argument.

Dave is on the pav counter wagon though…

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Gob's posting has made it want to kill him on sight but it thinks that may be annoyance?

See…I get this.

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uhhhh i think davesaz makes more sense as scum in a scum!Pav world and davesaz is soft pushing there but using his policy to avoid actually voting there

You’re not wrong.

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We aren’t yeeting dave or Pav today.

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felt rebellious

No worries. I know how to handle rebelliousness.

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I actually don’t.

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6 seconds apart? You set it up.

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Mmm…I will give that one to you ducky. I’m still the best bird.

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We aren’t yeeting dave or Pav today.

what's your cutoff line, then, 4th?

Idk…I don’t want a hard line but the top 3 or 4 likely got a role or got nothing and can get caught…yesireeish is the line.

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yeah i got threatened

You were threatened because you voted out of line Mr floor.

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I won a draft pick

Why you reveal?

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This is a post to say I’m still here.

FF7 is more important. See you all tomorrow.

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That’s frightening

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I've had several recent town losses where scum was eliminated d1 and it didn't help in the slightest.

This is a vibe I'm starting to get from the concept of yeeting NotAScum

HUH?

i think NotAScum is pretty yeetable and probably actually scum but it doesn't feel like a smart wagon rn

We agree.

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We aren’t yeeting dave or Pav today.

what's your cutoff line, then, 4th?

Idk…I don’t want a hard line but the top 3 or 4 likely got a role or got nothing and can get caught…yesireeish is the line.

is this ur only reason for not going after dave/pav today because they are top drafts? or u have a read on those slots

Yes. Though I had a mindmeld with Dave so good enough D1 reason to townread anybody.

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I feel like I’ve said that already.

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Please tell me more about notascum’s stellar entrance.

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Almost like it was coordinated in a pt.

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took you long enough to put that together penguin

Sometimes my brain takes more than a minute to process things.

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Almost like it was coordinated in a pt.

you were too slow by like 2 minutes

but yes
dann and i have our own secret masonry.

1 min and 1 second.

I don’t understand why people don’t have the seconds field enabled.

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Please tell me more about notascum’s stellar entrance.

Good morning fellow townies!

Yes…tell me more about why/how that is “stellar”

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Almost like it was coordinated in a pt.

you were too slow by like 2 minutes

but yes
dann and i have our own secret masonry.

1 min and 1 second.

I don’t understand why people don’t have the seconds field enabled.

i do, i rounded up because i'm annoying

You should re-learn rounding because that’s not how it works.

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@yessiree here's the post ur looking for

Spoiler: don't click this penguin

the way i imagine people say infiltrate a townblock is like someone just showing up out of the blue uninvited and going "hello fellow town players" and everyone is cool with that. I think yall are saying something else when u say infiltrate.

I will not click that spoiler because I am an honorable penguin.

It does, however, show when I quote it to respond.

Not my fault.

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VOTE: yessiree

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Nah. Yessiree was like kinda the line and it shifted.

Spontaneously.

For no reason.

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I just want to hypovig you tonight ducky. Only reason.

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No reason to sort ducky tbh.

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Ok - sort him by all means. At least one of you two won’t be here tomorrow.

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Hypothetically.

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You’re going to need to explain to me how Oblivion is super towny.

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Not super towny. Good enough though.

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Penguin, why would you waste high-quality buck shot on a fowl of such low grade when you could use it on someone with blood on their hands and money in their pocket?

Excuse you. Ducky is top tier birdfriend.

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Penguin, why would you waste high-quality buck shot on a fowl of such low grade when you could use it on someone with blood on their hands and money in their pocket?

Excuse you. Ducky is top tier birdfriend.

Even more of a reason not to deliver hot lead directly to his luscious feathers.

Best friends can still betray you.

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im mean and grouchy now

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VOTE: gob

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Is what I want to do.

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VOTE: brian

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local woman suspected of being alt that links to her main in the signature

hmmm

I've never claimed to be particularly bright

VOTE: Pavowski back on this one

why don't you like any of the current wagons?

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local woman suspected of being alt that links to her main in the signature

hmmm

I've never claimed to be particularly bright

VOTE: Pavowski back on this one

why don't you like any of the current wagons?

I like most of the current wagon I'm making a STATEMENT

So you like both of the current wagons...

Which one do you like more?

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And you better say "The one penguin is on."

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Dear god this wagon comp. I don’t want to be on gob because notascum is in there. I don’t want to be on Brian because gob is on here. I don’t want to be on notascum because Brian is in there.

Alright second best bird. You choose, I’ll follow (or stay).

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Dear god this wagon comp. I don’t want to be on gob because notascum is in there. I don’t want to be on Brian because gob is on here. I don’t want to be on notascum because Brian is in there.

Alright second best bird. You choose, I’ll follow (or stay).

What do you think this might imply about those three? Which one would you join if you had to choose one?

I’m on one.

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Seriously. The VC is right above.

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Ducky - you can live dependent on your answer. Jake becomes the secondary.

Hypothetically.

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Dunno. You?

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Dunno. You?

I dont have any thoughts on it, but I was wondering if you had any deeper thoughts about that, given that you were the one to bring it up.

I mean - you have at least some thoughts because you already commented substantially.

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lol what r these qs from jake

you wolfing buddy?

If I'm ever not wolfing, something has gone horribly wrong and you should investigate immediately.

Hypobullets count as investigation in your eyes?

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That’s not what I said….

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Dunno. You?

I dont have any thoughts on it, but I was wondering if you had any deeper thoughts about that, given that you were the one to bring it up.

I mean - you have at least some thoughts because you already commented substantially.

I suppose that's true. I was wondering why you had brought it up without discussing what you thought about 3 scummy players cycle voting eachother.

I was talking to ducky.

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content police?

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Ah…just ignore them. It’s what I do.

[PenguinPower]

Geriatrics gonna complain about posts.
Tryhards gonna complain about shit posts.
Mafiascum gonna complain about not enough quality content.

Just do you.

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Tbf - I will probably complain about something.

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It is!

Anything further to say now?

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VOTE: pavowski

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VOTE: pavowski

im starting to realize you were mafia all along. I will take care of you at night.

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I think you're an idiot if you think I'm scum.

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VOTE: notascum

i haven’t read anything but i like tying wagons

Reasoning I can get behind.

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VOTE: notascum

but we haven't had a wagon crest e-2/e-1 today and we're three days out

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inb4 gob hammers anyway

i get n_m vibes

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eh maybe

called it

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low info yeet, but not a bad yeet as that slot had to go at some point

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sure ya did

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VOTE: brian skies

Nope.

[PenguinPower]

who dafuq picks rolecop as town

Ydrasse

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i think we lim whoever bever voted NAS today

Who's your top pick?

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he has a point about the hammer tbh which is reinforced by dave

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i mean - yeah. NAS wasn't playing well (at all) and was a liability tbh. hammering and then being like "well well well, let's find those scums off the wagon" isn't a super good look.

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"happened before" doesn't mean happens often, and I would disagree that it happens often. I would concede that it's common for there to be one on/one off but given nas' play and the speed of the yeet i'm not sure that holds true