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Do I detect role-fishing?
VOTE: Gob
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In post 25, GuyInFreezer wrote:
So which part of Gob’s post was rolefishing?In post 23, Solon wrote: Do I detect role-fishing?
VOTE: Gob
I declare that RVS is now over. Onwards!
The more pertinent question is why do you choose to jump to Gob's aid by asking a question for which the answer is quite obvious? Especially after your 14. Actions do indeed speak louder than words, don't they?
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Why do you besmirch my name with your vote?-
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In post 31, GuyInFreezer wrote: It wasn’t obvious, actually. I wouldn’t have asked otherwise.
And now it looks even less obvious to me on how you approached the conclusion that joke cop claim was a rolefishing attempt. No real cop with a half a brain won’t claim like that since it is very common for scum to have roleblock ability when there is a town cop.
It was obvious given the small pool of posts available, and the posts in which roles were clearly mentioned. I noticed your own participation in this, by the way, and I don't discount some maf on maf play acting between you and Gob in these early stages.
I don't think Gob is town cop - I think he might be scum looking for reactions to what he said.-
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In post 35, GuyInFreezer wrote: I see, I see.
If there are two scum openly lolclaiming like that, in your opinion, what do you think they hope to gain?
P-Edit: FOS - Finger of Suspicion. Basically I-got-my-eyes-on-you
They hope to gain reactions to their role-claims, like I've already said.
I'm perturbed by this line of questioning. It feels like you're trying to pacify rather than advance the game, which is what I'm trying to do.
In fact, I think I've seen enough to put you as my number one suspect.
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In post 37, GuyInFreezer wrote: I’d like more than just a blanket “they’re fishing for reaction” though. That’s a textbook answer and it’s boring.
Boring though it may seem to you doesn't mean it isn't accurate. Fishing for roles in such a way is one of the scummiest things that can happen early doors, because it can be explained away due to the jollity of RVS.
It's a lead, and a lead which you're doing everything in your power to shut down, therefore I am suspicious of you, especially given your dismissive attitude.-
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In post 40, RolandOfGilead wrote:It just feels like a little much at this stage of the game. You also, perhaps unintentionally, phrased your suspicion in a way that made it seem like you were taking it upon yourself to end RVS, but you did it by taking what seems to be trolling to be entirely serious. That seems like an odd way to end RVS if you really wanted to take it upon yourself to do so.
The RP here is also a little jarring, since from what I can tell, you did plenty of RP in your last game where you were scum. It is a handy way to redirect attention but it's not something I'm totally comfortable with.
Not a bad answer. You can be town, for now.
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In post 45, RolandOfGilead wrote:In post 43, Solon wrote: Not a bad answer. You can be town, for now.
I AM town, not just for now, but for the duration of this game. But thanks?
Feels like you want to put yourself in the driver's seat here.
It's ok, I believe you. Your towniness is radiating nicely.
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In post 48, RolandOfGilead wrote:In post 36, Solon wrote:In post 35, GuyInFreezer wrote: I see, I see.
If there are two scum openly lolclaiming like that, in your opinion, what do you think they hope to gain?
P-Edit: FOS - Finger of Suspicion. Basically I-got-my-eyes-on-you
They hope to gain reactions to their role-claims, like I've already said.
I'm perturbed by this line of questioning. It feels like you're trying to pacify rather than advance the game, which is what I'm trying to do.
In fact, I think I've seen enough to put you as my number one suspect.
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VOTE: GuyInFreezer
Are you just going to vote for anyone who asks a question now?
If that were the case I'd be voting you right now.-
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In post 46, GuyInFreezer wrote: This game is adorable.
If y’all keep up, I might be able to unironically solve the game by page 20.
You'll be lucky to reach page 20 at this rate.-
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In post 51, RolandOfGilead wrote: Okay. Then what is it about my question that you are fine with, vs. the question GuyInFreezer asked you?
Their question didn't really seem unfair or indicative of anything to me, so I'm trying to sort out why you seemingly reacted like this to it.
Because Freezer was play acting when it suited him, but his questions served no purpose other than to stunt the advancement of the game. He felt uncomfortable with the developments, and wished to pacify me rather than use it as an opportunity to move the game forward.-
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In post 54, RolandOfGilead wrote: What looks even worse for you right now, Solon, is the fact that you added vote #3. We need 5 votes to eliminate someone, yes? So you opted to turn this into a wagon, using what seems like kinda odd and wishy-washy rationale for it, which could push GuyInFreezer to have to reveal their role way sooner than we want to. I don't at all like the fact that a wagon has formed THIS early, before everyone has even checked in yet. Like what is the rush?
There is no time like the present. I'm not going to hold back just because we're early in the game. In fact, it's all the more reason not to hold back!
Wagons create content. I have no qualms about putting my scumread on E-2, be it now or next Friday.-
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In post 59, RolandOfGilead wrote: I mean, it's page 1, who cares? This is a common occurrence in the game for people to say things that don't push the game forward. He was play-acting in post 14. Is that egregious?
Why must something be egregious for me to vote someone?
By the same token, why are you holding me to such standards in the first couple of pages? I'm trying to move things along, and I think what i have right now is a very justified scumread on the guy in the freezer, even if it is early and not based on much material evidence. I think his play has been scummy so far, and it has stood out to me as so. If you can't see it then that's a shame, and I'll have to take back full control of the steering wheel while you sit idly in the passenger seat, or worse yet, bark up the wrong tree by maintaining your vote on me.-
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In post 62, RolandOfGilead wrote: Yeah I feel pretty okay with where my vote is right now.
No matter, we'll be buddies eventually. I can feel it-
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In post 66, RolandOfGilead wrote:In post 64, Solon wrote: By the same token, why are you holding me to such standards in the first couple of pages?
Well I dunno man, why are you pulling anything from post 14 if the first couple of pages are [insert whatever term you are comfortable with since you seem to take issue with whatever words I assign]?
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In post 70, RolandOfGilead wrote:In post 67, Solon wrote:In post 62, RolandOfGilead wrote: Yeah I feel pretty okay with where my vote is right now.
No matter, we'll be buddies eventually. I can feel it
Uh, gonna tell you right now, with 100% honesty, if you keep up the way you're interacting with me, we most certainly will not. Just so you know.
Just as water gradually wears away the hardest of rocks, it will inevitably be so
Unless you happen to be scum, in which case I will be your worst nightmare
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In post 72, GuyInFreezer wrote: Hypocrisy is a towntell
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I've heard that conflation is a towntell.-
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In post 80, RolandOfGilead wrote:In post 78, Solon wrote: I've heard that conflation is a towntell.
Okay. From who?
It's been whispered through many an ear, going back generations.
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In post 83, RolandOfGilead wrote:In post 81, Solon wrote:In post 80, RolandOfGilead wrote:In post 78, Solon wrote: I've heard that conflation is a towntell.
Okay. From who?
It's been whispered through many an ear, going back generations.
Who really can know the source of such wisdom?
So you made it up, to try and make yourself sound better, got it.
Damn, you caught me
Nothing gets past you, does it? I'll have to up my game significantly.-
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In post 86, GuyInFreezer wrote:
It doesn’t have to be grandiose you know.In post 82, KayJayQueue wrote: This is fun to watch but I’m not sure it’s giving me much information.
It can be simple things like “I think GuyInFreezer is townie and Solon is tripping on something hard,”“I think Solon vs Roland is Town vs Town,” or even something like “I think Gob is town because I have the bar really low for him and he went over that bar.”In post 90, GuyInFreezer wrote:In post 87, KayJayQueue wrote:In post 84, RolandOfGilead wrote:In post 82, KayJayQueue wrote: This is fun to watch but I’m not sure it’s giving me much information.
What do you think of what Solon is doing here? Am I right to be suspicious?You’re probably both town being silly.I’ll report back with more intelligent reads like this soon.You know I didn’t actually expected to see this, and I am proud of you. I might have to up the bar on you now.
This progression doesn't make sense to me, when Kay just parroted back one of the options that the guy in the freezer put forth.
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In post 96, GuyInFreezer wrote: That was my genuine surprise actually.
“I have no opinion” to “I think these two are town infighting” is one hell of a jump.
Why?
Saying a fight is TvT is literally the easiest and safest thing one can do in a game of mafia.-
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In post 100, GuyInFreezer wrote:
Because those are two entirely different agenda if scum. Former is going for “I’m new idk what I’m doing uwu” card, and the latter is going for appeasement card.In post 99, Solon wrote:In post 96, GuyInFreezer wrote: That was my genuine surprise actually.
“I have no opinion” to “I think these two are town infighting” is one hell of a jump.
Why?
Saying a fight is TvT is literally the easiest and safest thing one can do in a game of mafia.
I don't see how those are entirely different agendas at all.
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In post 103, GuyInFreezer wrote: Let’s assume that you’re scum and you have a plan that you think it is working well. Would you deviate from it? It’s like trying to fix things that’s not broken.
So you think scum!kay would just be like that the entire game? The next small step would be to say something is TvT - appeasement is the safest entry point into actually participating if you're scum.-
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In post 105, GuyInFreezer wrote: And for what makes them different,
“I have no reads” vs “I have reads”
If I simplify like this, then it looks very different, right?
To completely remove the context, anything can look different.
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In post 104, KayJayQueue wrote:
Believe me or not but I had typed out that response before I saw his post that you’re referencing.In post 98, Solon wrote: This progression doesn't make sense to me, when Kay just parroted back one of the options that the guy in the freezer put forth.
Could this be a S/S interaction?
I believe you, but my point still stands, and I do believe you could be scum with the guy in the freezer.
That, or he's trying to pocket you by being extra nice and coaching you along.-
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In post 110, RolandOfGilead wrote:
Wouldn't saying nothing be even easier and safer?In post 99, Solon wrote:In post 96, GuyInFreezer wrote: That was my genuine surprise actually.
“I have no opinion” to “I think these two are town infighting” is one hell of a jump.
Why?
Saying a fight is TvT is literally the easiest and safest thing one can do in a game of mafia.
If you say an interaction is TvT, you're documenting town reads on two people, not just one.
You can't just say nothing forever.
Giving townreads is much easier than giving scumreads when you're scum. It's not like it was a set-in-stone read either.-
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In post 114, RolandOfGilead wrote:In post 112, Solon wrote: You can't just say nothing forever.
I never said anything about staying silent forever.In post 115, RolandOfGilead wrote: Solon if you want to pocket me, step number one is going to be to stop twisting my arguments and taking liberties with what I am saying.
I'm not taking any liberties or twisting arguments. As for'pocketing', I will continue to try to work with you while I believe you are town and that we can see eye to eye on things, but my patience is wearing thin.
If you accept that scum!kay cannot remain silent forever, then surely we agree that saying something like'this fight might be TvT'is hardly a surprising next step? What else would you expect?-
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In post 117, GuyInFreezer wrote:
I don't see any removal of context.In post 108, Solon wrote: To completely remove the context, anything can look different.
You're reaching.
You asked me how those two agendas are different, and I've narrowed them down to you so it's easily visualized.
We don't call that reaching, we call that "GuyInFreezer did a damn good job at simplifying things for everyone to understand easily."
If anything is reaching, it's this.
We were talking about why Kay would/would not change her agendaIn post 106, Solon wrote: So you think scum!kay would just be like that the entire game?now. Newbcard clearly won't work the whole game and by then, the agenda is clearly not working so it would make more sense to switch things up.
It seems incredibly naive to think that a newb!scum wouldn't at least attempt to give some reads sooner rather than later. It's clearly something she was self-conscious of, and she would have consulted with her partner about it.
And there was a removal of the context - going from 'I don't have many reads right now' to 'the fight might be tvt' isnotthe giant leap you are making out.-
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In post 121, KayJayQueue wrote:This probably won’t help the opinion of me and freezer dude being “teammates”but I see where he’s coming from with all 3 of those reads. The gob one being the funniest but probably most accurate. If gob is scum…then I don’t understand his game at all.
Reverse-psychology means that this actually did help.
Right now I would say that Kay is more likely town.-
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In post 123, GuyInFreezer wrote:
Please tell me how this acknowledgement, consultation, and the posts you speak of can come out in span of 5 minutes.In post 120, Solon wrote: It seems incredibly naive to think that a newb!scum wouldn't at least attempt to give some reads sooner rather than later. It's clearly something she was self-conscious of, and she would have consulted with her partner about it.
I never said it did. They would have had plenty of time to consult.-
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VOTE: FancyPants
I concur with Roland's thoughts in 147, and Freezer doesn't seem so bad recently.-
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Why did your read on me change, Roland?-
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This is indeed a random vote.
Any thoughts on what's happening above between Drew and Roland?-
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189 strikes me as a town post...I am less confident in my Roland townread than I was before.-
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In post 193, RolandOfGilead wrote:In post 192, Doctor Drew wrote:
Again....more votes pleaseIn post 191, RolandOfGilead wrote: So you don't think that's townie of Gob to have reacted like that? Like what is the issue you take with what I just pointed out?
Why are you not answering the question? I feel like I have a legitimate point here, that what Gob did just now is townie. Why is it so scummy of me to point this out that you request others to hop on the wagon and vote for me also for making what I honestly believe is a totally legitimate point? What is this?
I find this confusing, as you are talking about Gob but Drew doesn't seem to be talking about Gob from what I can see.
This whole thing around Gob feels a bit like blowing your own trumpet - trying to display how you are doing townie things. I don't really agree with your point on Gob, or at best it's a weak point and not worthy of the hype you're trying to generate over it.-
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In post 194, RolandOfGilead wrote: Alright well I tell you what dude, if you think people are going to join a bandwagon to vote for me for making a good point about Gob's behavior then good luck with that lol. You are free to conf-bias your way into a read on me if you likebut, as one of my town reads, I hope you instead do something that is actually productive, like giving more thought to my case on FancyPants, for example.
At the very least, you really shouldn't act like you have the game figured out when you haven't seen enough content from everyone yet. Who are you to say that the scum team is not fully contained in the people who have hardly posted a thing in this game, which includes Random Nurse (3 posts), FancyPants (1 post), and Not_Scum (1 post)? I know it is fun to go all inspector gadget on what you have and solve the puzzle, but it's probably a lot more likely that the people hardly saying anything are the ones more worthy of your suspicion.
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The more I look at posts like 194, I just can't shake the feeling that it's scum annoyed at being caught in a manner they deem to be unfair, due to the effort they have made so far compared with others.
Why did Roland make such a big deal about his Gob read, but make no comment on his huge reversal on me? Surely that would have been more worthy of comment? Or did the fact that your scumreading of me gained no interest make it inconvenient, especially in the face of being attacked by another player, and so you decided to drop it for a townread rather than have to battle on two fronts?
This is why it seems like a strategic reversal rather than a genuine one. Also with your townread on Drew - you try appeasement, and when it doesn't work drop it for a scumread and a vote, which again seems strategic.
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In post 206, FancyPants wrote: @Salon, on post 194, this kind of frustration generally reads town more than scum to me.
The whole interaction between Drew and Roland seems like TvS - Drew's reactions are calm yet persistent, while Roland seems uncomfortable in the limelight and wants to immediately rubbish any suspicion against him. It seems a bit desperate on his part, which is why I think it's more likely scum frustration, especially when he has made a good effort so far and done more than most in the game. I think as town he wouldn't worry too much about being scumread for something that is, in Roland's mind, baseless.-
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In post 210, FancyPants wrote: I think townies are just as eager to defend themselves as scum, in some ways it's more emotional to defend oneself as town because you know your accusers are wrong. Whereas if you're scum you know your accusers have a point.
Do you buy that Drew's 166 is not an implicit town read of Roland?
I would interpret it as a conditional townread, depending on Roland's experience of the game.
I certainly don't think it's scummy of Drew to have townie feelings about Roland and to then change to scumreading him upon further developments. I've done the same myself, as Roland appeared very townie early in the game, but he seems scummy in his recent exchange with Drew.-
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In fact, I would say it's +town for Drew to change his read like that. Scum are generally more careful when it comes to read consistency.-
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In post 215, FancyPants wrote: I just don't think there's enough substance between the town read and the vote to justify changing.
Additionally I don't like that Drew doesn't really own up to changing his mind - instead he kind of pretends he didn't town read Roland in the first place.
You make an interesting point.
I'm going out now, so will review in a few hours.-
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In post 611, KayJayQueue wrote:
Did you forget about us?In post 216, Solon wrote: I'm going out now, so will review in a few hours.
How could I forget you wonderful folk?
I've had a torrid couple of days, but have a free hour now so let's see what I can see.-
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In post 229, RolandOfGilead wrote:In post 202, Solon wrote:In post 193, RolandOfGilead wrote:In post 192, Doctor Drew wrote:
Again....more votes pleaseIn post 191, RolandOfGilead wrote: So you don't think that's townie of Gob to have reacted like that? Like what is the issue you take with what I just pointed out?
Why are you not answering the question? I feel like I have a legitimate point here, that what Gob did just now is townie. Why is it so scummy of me to point this out that you request others to hop on the wagon and vote for me also for making what I honestly believe is a totally legitimate point? What is this?
I find this confusing, as you are talking about Gob but Drew doesn't seem to be talking about Gob from what I can see.
If you find something confusing, then why take issue with the question? The question is meant to alleviate this confusion, no matter what it is about.
This whole thing around Gob feels a bit like blowing your own trumpet - trying to display how you are doing townie things. I don't really agree with your point on Gob, or at best it's a weak point and not worthy of the hype you're trying to generate over it.
You completely misunderstand my point if you thinkIam the one generating the hype here. Did you not see Drew say, multiple times, thathewants all of you to vote for me because of what I said about Gob? If you think my point on him is flimsy, that's totally fine, I'm in full agreement that it's shaky to town read a person on just that one thing, but what I don't understand at all is how my stance here is just so reprehensible that Drew wants all of town to vote for me because of it. This hype is a Drew thing, not a Roland thing.
Well I kind of vibed with Drew's read on you, so I can see why he wanted more pressure on you from that.
I still don't see where Drew talked specifically on your point about Gob.-
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In post 230, RolandOfGilead wrote:In post 203, Solon wrote:In post 194, RolandOfGilead wrote: Alright well I tell you what dude, if you think people are going to join a bandwagon to vote for me for making a good point about Gob's behavior then good luck with that lol. You are free to conf-bias your way into a read on me if you likebut, as one of my town reads, I hope you instead do something that is actually productive, like giving more thought to my case on FancyPants, for example.
At the very least, you really shouldn't act like you have the game figured out when you haven't seen enough content from everyone yet. Who are you to say that the scum team is not fully contained in the people who have hardly posted a thing in this game, which includes Random Nurse (3 posts), FancyPants (1 post), and Not_Scum (1 post)? I know it is fun to go all inspector gadget on what you have and solve the puzzle, but it's probably a lot more likely that the people hardly saying anything are the ones more worthy of your suspicion.
So why did you townread Drew at the time of this post?
I didn't. I was null on him and wanted to see how he would react to me suggesting that I town-read him.
And look at how he responded. He laid right down, acquiesced, asked me, yes Roland, alright, let's set aside my concern about you and talk about your case on FancyPants instead, guy who townreads me and who I should perhaps try to be pocketing. Let's discuss!
It was both that reaction to it, and the question itself (which was a bizarre thing to ask about, as I explained), that definitively moved him out of null territory for me and into scum territory.
His follow-up to my case on him was very unsatisfying also and continues to show a lack of engagement on his part. Why am I not scum-reading the two inactive players, he asks? I already explained that I was null on them and would continue to be null on them until they posted more, so it seemed like a desperate attempt to try and dig up something to divert attention rather than a genuine thought.
I don't really agree that Drew acquiesced. But fine, you've earned yourself an unvote, squire.
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In post 232, gob wrote: I really feel freezerguy is frozen scum (no oun intended) and we should lim him today.
i know its not the most exciting since ive been pushing freezer since page 1, but every time they post i become more confident they are scum.
So i implore everyone to vote CreezerGuy
I'm not really vibing with you there, Gob. ironically, I actually feel like this could be 'frozen scum'- maintaining a scumread in such a way seems quite unnatural at this point in time.-
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In post 246, Doctor Drew wrote:
I would tell that bird to take the same Drew reading class that the turtle needs to take.In post 243, GuyInFreezer wrote: Drew a little bird tells me that you asked Roland for experience and jumped on him once you learned that he’s kinda new. What would you tell the little bird about it?
I asked the question since I didn't think someone who has never played the game could fake the genuine frustration that I pointed out, once they said they had some experience playing the game I was curious how they would react to a naked vote.
If anything was conditional it was my vote on them, which now is a vote on scum me thinks.
I still think Drew is town. I think his push on Roland, given that Roland was townread at the time, and with the persistence with which he tried to mount the pressure, is town indicative. I can also understand the reaction test, which is something scum would more likely avoid doing in this situation as it could turn ugly in a hurry.-
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In post 250, gob wrote: FreezerGuy is BLEEDING scum
If we dont lim them today, i will threaten to throw this game. You all have been warned
This rings false.
Consider my vote on Gob for now. I have no idea what the vote count may be, so won't place it here immediately for the sake of prudence.-
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In post 252, RolandOfGilead wrote:In post 237, GuyInFreezer wrote: Oh btw I’ve reduced the pull to Nurse/Drew/N_M at this point. I’m technically done with solves, but this feels way too easy and I never get easy games, so I’m now at a lookout mode to see if there are any new developments throughout the day.
This is also where I am, with the exception that I'm null on Gob. I just cannot understand what he's doing, not in a scummy way but in a genuinely perplexed way. (as in, I am the one who is perplexed)
*a little tinfoil theory*
Roland is scum with Gob, and is genuinely frustrated by the actions of his buddy.-
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In post 261, gob wrote:
yes of course. Never gone against it on this site so far.In post 259, RolandOfGilead wrote: @Gob
Can you promise that you are actually playing to your win condition?
If you guys dont listen to me though, ill do what i must to make myself heard. Even if that means throwing this game.
I could townread this, if I actually saw reason behind what you're pushing.
I could relate to your early scumread on Freezer. Lord knows I scumread Freezer myself early on. But right now? Show me why you feel such conviction in your read and i may follow you. If not? I shall feel compelled to vote you!-
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In post 273, GuyInFreezer wrote:
Don’t get distracted by shiny things.In post 269, KayJayQueue wrote:
We could always just skip the part where you throw the game and just vote your ass day 1. Wouldn’t the end result be the same except you don’t have a chance to do more damage at night if you’re a town intent on making us lose? Screw your threats, either you’re scum causing chaos and we eliminate you, or you’re town that is (purposely, loudly) detrimental to us winning. Either way, you not being here sounds like a win/win to me.In post 261, gob wrote: If you guys dont listen to me though, ill do what i must to make myself heard. Even if that means throwing this game.
VOTE: gob
If he continues to break the rule then he gets replaced.
If he isn’t, then we just gonna win the game before elo.
I don't get this; why are you not more suspicious of Gob, given what you said in 268?
I don't think Freezer and Gob are partners, but does scum!Freezer want Gob to stay alive later into the game in order to cause mayhem and confusion to the town?-
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My thoughts currently, as of page 12, are that if Gob is town then Freezer is scum, because he is way too comfortable with the game state and his supposed town reads at the moment.
I don't trust this way of approaching the game, quite possibly leading town to their doom in the event of the dreaded'power-wolf'.-
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In post 282, GuyInFreezer wrote: Gob at this point I hope you have enough mental fortitude to survive the sheer amount of schadenfreude that’s going to happen when this game is over.
You seem to beassumingthat Gob is town here??
Could there me a layered meaning to what is being said here: schadenfreude based on Gob being right in his scumread, but no-one listened to him and he lost anyway?-
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In post 285, Not_Mafia wrote:DownBad
S+(I/2)
ColdCabbage
ThunderClap
MarySeedcole
Quack
FeathersMcGraw
Fartarus
Not_Mafia
Ah, brilliant. A scum-claim. I will take that all day every day thank you.
(my vote is now on Not_Mafia as things stand).-
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In post 299, GuyInFreezer wrote: DownBad = Gob
S+(I/2) = KayJayQueue
Cold Cabbage = GIF
ThunderClap = Solon?
MarySeedcoleSeacole = Random Nurse
Quack = Doctor Drew
Feathers McGraw = FancyPants
Fartarus = Roland
Not_Mafia
You're taking the reads of someone who just scum-claimed seriously?
Is this deflection? Damage-control?-
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In post 302, RolandOfGilead wrote: My interest level in this game is dropping dramatically right now. Literally what is this shit.
This feels a little more townie-
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In post 308, GuyInFreezer wrote: With that said, I am surprisingly ok with N_M’s readlist.
This is terrible. He scum-claimed, and you don't even know for sure who he is talking about with the pseudonyms!
I think Freezer is actually scum here. Either with Not_Mafia, or his tactic is just to keep the insane players alive.-
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In post 312, GuyInFreezer wrote: Also you can just leave Gob be unless you scumread him or something. It should be really obvious at this point that he’s just an obnoxious town though.
Obvious to those who already know everyone's alignment, certainly.-
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In post 317, GuyInFreezer wrote: Also I’m going need to see a cop guilty and a flipped cop to see Roland being scum at this point.
Roland is looking up, but again the level of conviction here is too much and I think you have too much information.
Consider my vote on Freezer guy.-
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In post 321, Thomith wrote:gob is being force replaced for breaching rules 2 and 3 on multiple occasions.
This is a final reminder to all players regarding rules 2, 3 and 16: