Open 905: Pick Your Power X/Y S/S [game over!]

[Firebringer]

u should black knight instead

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okay ill do hero solv right now:

theme is horsemen of apocalypse:

Gob, leader of chaos
Dannflor, leader of knights
Wrostie, leader of kindness

Obviously we kill kindness first. We can't have people being nice during an apcoalypse.

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Idk how i mangled worstie name so bad.

Wrostie sounds like a snowman

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i think you know that's not a very realistic scum team

I am allowed to believe any crackpot theory i want. FREE COUNTRY

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NotAScum could be in the scum team possibly but thats just a lazy ass answer imo.
Like obviously one lurker scum is almost always in a scum team but who wants to put lurkers in ur hero solve. Its boring

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im renaming u as leader of boringness instead of knights

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FB doesn't seem to be sorting right now.. This is fake

u just said not everything is about sorting. Try not to contradict urself for a page

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Are u even attempting to sort me in this conversation.

Why do you keep mentioning sorting lol. There are other things you can do in this game. You seem to have a very narrow view of this game and I am not interested in playing 'standard' so whatever you're expecting, you can stop expecting it.

FB doesn't seem to be sorting right now.. This is fake

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FB doesn't seem to be sorting right now.. This is fake

u just said not everything is about sorting. Try not to contradict urself for a page

I'm making fun of you for doing exactly what you called me out for doing, is the thing .

No ur not lol. U contradicted urself that wasn't u making fun of me.

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You're so dumb and annoying.

its a skill that takes years of discipline to acquire.
I appreciate u acknowleding my mastery of the craft

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I don't think firebringer is scum

or gob really

Ugh.

Dann are u trying to anger me.

Okay don't answer i know ur not.

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now ur just trolling me

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ok sorry firebringer is scum

Ohhh nvm, i love u again

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okay Gob and Dannflor can be town.

WOrstie still scum

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ill listen to dannflor once on this, because that was such a towndannflor take.
Even though I think he is stupid and wrong, ill listen to him and force myself to see these interactions im having with gob as townie but it really as best as i can make it is pretty neutral. I see so many areas i can argue its scum trying to stir things up. Ill pretend its townie though.

Just because I don't think arguing it helps at all

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i agree he is trying to annoy me and I think that is pretty neutral. Even though he tried this exact same thing literally his last game with me and he was scum. I don't think town him is excluded from this behavior though

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i think there is plenty of scum motivation to go for penguinpower btw since he has the vigilante and i assume gob mechanically understands that as scum enough to want to eliminate him or having him open as mislim

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dannflor when can i expect ur hero solve

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Where is o ring

in ur pokeball

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i wonder who Gob thought duckland was

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Maybe duckland = Penguinpower to Gob.

I am really trying unravel this mystery.

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Ducks are just more powerful penguins anyway.

wow I hope penguinpower shoots u tonight for this

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well now i genuinely lean town on gob

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I think Worstie just likes everyone so that statement means nothing. I would normally accuse worstie of buddying but its like w/e

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if i was going for real conspiracy worstie is trying to get people to think him and gob are aligned.

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are u finally dropping the pretense that ur a "VT". Or we still going with ur a hypo-vigilante bird

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Can't even answer me in the scum pt.

WHat a rude ally u are

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Mod needs to cut down in our pts us having a mason pt, a scum pt and neighborhood is just too many pts too manage

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worstie/notascum and third player for scum.
Any ideas officer penguin?

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maybe its jake the wolfie

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do u believe in dumbtells penguin

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okay well then i have no case thats convincing of why gob is town. Fire away

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when gob was talking to jake the wolfie about "duckland" and he confused duckland for a random player in this game that didn't exist. I thought it was too dumb to be from scum because scum usually keep tabs on the playerlist to know who is vital to elim, and especially when talking to another player about a person in a conversation.

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its probably just me

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Why don't u just recover first, we can bounce ideas of later

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ive been spreading that rumor around for years to get people comfortable about me

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Why don't u just recover first, we can bounce ideas of later

Because it has spent a bit recovering and it feels like it is already losing pacing in the game, so it really wants to stay atop things.

Alright, then go for it

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i don't think its a good question but im biased

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is there some sort of secret scum benefit from May not actually believing that? I guess if me and may are allies that makes sense to throw out there

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t's mind has begun to converge on a section of players it wants to kill. It has a list of names for that purpose, and it wants to talk through that list.

It wishes to begin with Dave. Do you feel opposed to killing Dave today? There doesn't seem to be as much interest there despite, to its eyes, Dave being the most scummy in the thread.

Dave is not on my hit list right now.
I can only give u meta of previous experience with dave to tell u that nothing out of the ordinary i have seen from dave to make me think he is better than just random firing in this game to find scum.

If you got specific posts or such u want to work a scum case on him, im open to listening but most of what dave has done here is just push w/e is top wagon. He is going to rely on game mechanics to do most of the heavy lifting of sorting this game, plus VCA when he gets it. If he is scum, he can easily hide behind all this. But for instance him not actively pursuing a push on his preferred 'read', isn't something I consider scummy when he just wants wagon data and to move into the night.

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We are not killing the second in the draft order D1.

Ohh i forgot that dave is also second in draft.
That is also another reason not to kill dave.

Need a good scumcase if we go at him day 1.

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Its issue with Dave is that he comes across as using opportunistic strategies to advance his agendas and not being transparent or townie in doing so. It's one thing to have a goal, it's another to try and accomplish that goal while remaining at arms length and being contradictory to their own beliefs while doing it.

if you can show me the scum agenda im listening, I see no agenda other than moving a wagon. Getting to the night, etc.

Do u think he is purposefully pushing players he thinks are town, if so, where?

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im not scared of a penguin with a gun

Mr Penguin with a Nuke was deadly.

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Im bored.

Want to hear something spicy

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I believe u duckie

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Damn Penguin grabbing all the tops

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when gob was talking to jake the wolfie about "duckland" and he confused duckland for a random player in this game that didn't exist. I thought it was too dumb to be from scum because scum usually keep tabs on the playerlist to know who is vital to elim, and especially when talking to another player about a person in a conversation.

From what I've seen, Gob dumbtells as mafia like 7% more than he does as town. I have a game w him where I caught him off a fake dumbtell, then also clocked who his partner was bc he "forgot" about them and both felt a bit iffy

Just like don't read gob by dumbtells he's doing other stuff too

Okay now i don't have a read on Gob.

Penguin proceed to plan alpha

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From its perspective, it thinks that Dave is leveraging his draft position and his nature to make counter logical arguments to shift wagons away from specific targets. It wrote about this in a post... let it grab it for you. It thinks Dave is scum trying to control how this phase goes for the sake of a strategy.

Okay and you think that strategy benefits scum? Or is this theory talking about how it could possibly benefit scum depending on where they landed in draft. Cause now we are speculating on speculating. If you think he is providing a strategy he thinks is beneficial to scum and twisting it to say its beneficial for town.

We in business.
I doubt thats the case because hell even when im scum i usually tell town what I legit think is the best town strategy to do. I usually do this because I think town is gonna ignore me regardless, but also people will townread me for pushing it as well.

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worstie what is ur read on me and why

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Dave probably has a partner that is under fire he is protecting from being a wagon or is possibly a wagon that might tip over,

you have anyone in mind for this theory or this vibing

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if im the main character this game is doomed

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Why aren't we pushing this Dunnstral fellow? He hasn't posted in days!

+1

Good joke

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VOTE: yessiree reflecting on earlier comments I think I'm vibing here rn

I do want to hear more from my man yessiree, so i approve of this just to get him in here.

Good work scumstie

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uhhhh i think davesaz makes more sense as scum in a scum!Pav world and davesaz is soft pushing there but using his policy to avoid actually voting there

Sure i can run with that. But this is still just speculating on what the draft results are at the end of it, right? We don't know we living in this world.

Unless u got a convincing scum case on Pav. Also I think theres worlds where scum!Pav and Town!Dav so would prefer Pav but I think oblivion was on point that Pav is just an easier elim for scum to make so it has given me some personal hesistancy to even read heavily into Pav.

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I love it when penguin takes charge

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uhhhh i think davesaz makes more sense as scum in a scum!Pav world and davesaz is soft pushing there but using his policy to avoid actually voting there

Sure i can run with that. But this is still just speculating on what the draft results are at the end of it, right? We don't know we living in this world.

Unless u got a convincing scum case on Pav. Also I think theres worlds where scum!Pav and Town!Dav so would prefer Pav but I think oblivion was on point that Pav is just an easier elim for scum to make so it has given me some personal hesistancy to even read heavily into Pav.

this wasn't a comment on how likely i think scum!davesaz is, just a comment on oblivion's scum read of davesaz

yeah i was just asking if u were adding onto Oblivion take there. It was kind of mental/rhetorical question for myself while elaborating some more thoughts

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worstie what is ur read on me and why

you're like the main character of this game I don't think I'm going to get a super wild read on you for a while

I think you're probably town for now

I liked a couple of your conversations this phase and I think some of your takes are a bit lukewarm but I think you believe them. I'm also generally just like upside down to where ur at with this game & do not have myself in my POE so it's not surprising that I find your reads mid. I think they make enough sense in the world you're living in.

You've felt like surface level earnest in convos when it's been important

I think you've said things without thinking in enough ways that tends to come from genuine thoughts > scum thoughts

Idk that's kinda all I got you're not a high priority read for me but I'm pretty comfortable with you rn

btw worstie i would ask to go into this in more detail at some point. But ill give u passing marks on this one for now.

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who's best bird now penguin

u answered it in this post.

Penguin

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we should vote that dannflor person, he is not following the commands of general penguinpower.

Needs a lesson in DISCIPLINE

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We aren’t yeeting dave or Pav today.

what's your cutoff line, then, 4th?

dannflor already asked this

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yeah i got threatened

u know what u did mr

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OKAY ITS TIME FOR MY SPICY REVEAL EVERYONE

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I won a draft pick

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I won a draft pick

Why you reveal?

For the spice

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not my dumb ass being like "penguin won the draft tho?"

congrats that's p neat me too

wow second to last and u won. Good work worstie

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i mean i don't believe u, but good work

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worstie i want an essay tomorrow on why gob is town. double spaced, 2 pages.

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outside u saying u enjoy gob postings, i don't know why u think this is gob town game.

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The dance game where I was IC

didn't u really struggle to read me in that one

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I read the ending of that dance game recently for the last dance game btw May

I still find the post where u decided i was town in the final four hilarious when i gave u my dream and u said it was townie and then left the dance for us to win.

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viewtopic.php?p=12384876#p12384876

So funny

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why u not thinking worstie is scum anymore

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worstie i want an essay tomorrow on why gob is town. double spaced, 2 pages.

you keep asking me to double down on reads which I really don't feel strongly about and I'mma not do that

im not asking u to double down, uve been saying u think he is town. if ur not confident in it just say so but this isn't the impression ive gotten from u

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No Fire this is not a crumb

I don't say a "cop choker" role in the setup anyways

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I don't see**

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Ohh good I need some posts that will help me sleep

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because ur not doing anything to help us finish it?

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VOTE: Gob

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Pavowski [3]: Brian Skies, gob, Jake The Wolfie

Bad wagon

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Someone else tell him

I don't know what the hell ur talking about half the time here. Its like ur random posting in ur twitter thread

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Duck Hunt is the game May was referring to.

Thank you AI

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Pavowski [3]: Brian Skies, gob, Jake The Wolfie

Bad wagon

You think Pavlovski is town?

I think all of the people pushing it are in my to be sorted folder. So its a bad wagon.

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don't know how i feel about worstie joining me on gob either tbh

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Pavowski [3]: Brian Skies, gob, Jake The Wolfie

Bad wagon

How so?

not townreading anyone on it

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It is becoming a little frustrated with this game because most of the slots it wishes to kill are too high in draft to kill and then you have slots like NotAScum that it basically can't even begin to identify because they barely try.

are u townreading Gob

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Whats so bad about Brian?

What are u townreading brian for

again im saying i don't townread the players in the group.

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The way he gave a readslist so early doesnt seem like scum. Scum has no reason to list out their associatives like that so early.

So in ur world, scum don't give readslist early but they do pile onto players quickly. Am i getting this right

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Anyway whats so bad about Brian?

Again, null reading on Brian right now

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Need a summary of the game so far. 65 pages is too much to read.

If we weren't giving you an out at 16 pages, we will not give you an out at 66 pages.

in fairness, dannflor wasn't around then and dannflor is a very generous and kind individual that might be willing to give out a summary if u asked him nicely

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im stupid, what contradiction did Gob make now?

He isn't voting Brian, he is voting Pavowski.
Did pavowski make early reads list that i missed

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in fairness, dannflor wasn't around then and dannflor is a very generous and kind individual that might be willing to give out a summary if u asked him nicely

I've turned over a new leaf

im mean and grouchy now

finally!!!

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Whats up?

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Pavowski [3]: Brian Skies, gob, Jake The Wolfie

Bad wagon

You think Pavlovski is town?

I think all of the people pushing it are in my to be sorted folder. So its a bad wagon.

So you don't have any opinions on Pavlovski?

What are your thoughts on Pavlovski?

Easiest person to push here.

Outside of NotAScum
Though I think NotAScum has decent odds of actually flipping scum regardless of that where as Pavloski im like meh on overall. Could be scum or town, more null and think scum will see that as easier mislim if town. If u got a strong scum case or town case im ears

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VOTE: gob

Is what I want to do.

why not follow ur heart my bird friend

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I have chosen gob and the worst as my buddy targets. They will carry me to victory.

hey u said gob was town. u still think that, convince me of it

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i'm not like regular mods i'm a cool mod

sometimes i forgot ur a mod

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worstie u can just tell me ur scum allies, i promise not tell anyone.
I am ur friendly anti town (always actually aligned with scum).

I will assist u in ur win conditions

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I GOTTEM

VOTE: GeorgeBailey

Tricked u worstie

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Don’t mind me.

Please continue ur discussion of me


I’ll be over here:
VOTE: Gob

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i am pretty busy right now i am going to respond to things in like an hour after my next call and i ggrab my very late lunch

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@mod heads up i will be out of town on thursday to do on site audit. Will not be posting the whole day. Consider me V/LA

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does NaS really feel like the slot with the highest percent chance of flipping scum

yes

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this game def has the feeling that scum are lurking and not leading in it

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yessire what do you think about Firebringer and his continued push on me?

It reads pretty towny to me. Reminds me a lot of Black actually tbh.

Why is he pushing you?

It feels like because I successfully tricked him before, he is going after me. Also i get the sense he straight up doesnt like me ngl.

ummm no on several parts here

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Gob you remind me a lot of your day 1 play in the cop 19er that just finished - scattered, random, and lacking of a laser focus mindset

Maybe he sees the same things I'm seeing.

This is more accurate.
Though I don't know if town!gob is really lazer focused. This game just fits the bill perfectly with ur scum performances ive seen

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do u think im a master of reading gob?
I have read him wrong when he was town before.

and last scum game that i keep referencing, i was waffling the whole time he was in the game.

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that might be true but im not sure why that makes NaS a better shot at scum over like brian or yessirree or pavowski who are all lurky or low-impact but have also posted discernibly more alignment indicative content

yessiree agrees with me therefore he is town.
actually that might be a scum case for him.

I don't want yessiree to be gone today.

Ur right on that one. Ill think about this more, I think NotAScum is pretty blatantly not solving the game and playing lip service with the push on Oblivion. Anti town at worst, Scum at best. No skin of my bones if im wrong on NotAScum in my opinion

Brian/Yessiree/Pravowski can be sorted tomorrow/night actions and are better use of it than NotAScum

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no but you seem kinda confident this game so i was curious if you saw some big difference

Ohhh I am hella not confident in it. While I keep saying this is a mimic of his scum games ive seen, I continually emphasize that I think all the things i mention are probably similarish enough to his town game that it gives me heavy doubt if i even have a good case.

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Like i hope if i was going to go meta diving Gob town game i would find things that show he has a more coherent thought process, more lucid reads, etc.

I just doubt if i went back to town games i am going to find that unless I am trying to force it to make my case. And I am too lazy to go do meta diving.

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personally i still think worstie has highest chances of flipping scum in this game. I just lost all drive to push it or expand on it.

Ive hit a deadend on developing the read further to convince anyone. None of his latest postings do I go like "Yes this is the smoking gun that will convince everyone I am right". Its all like just too ~reasonable~ duckie to me. I don't think i can make a convincing case and no one seems interested in it for me to want to push.

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personally i still think worstie has highest chances of flipping scum in this game. I just lost all drive to push it or expand on it.

Ive hit a deadend on developing the read further to convince anyone. None of his latest postings do I go like "Yes this is the smoking gun that will convince everyone I am right". Its all like just too ~reasonable~ duckie to me. I don't think i can make a convincing case and no one seems interested in it for me to want to push.

This thought process also makes me think I need a break from worstie because its more of wanting to prove im right than actually give worst a fair shake tbh

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VOTE: Oblivion

Run this up folks

how often does this work for u btw

I think that this post sounds towny, but feels like it's scummy.
I'd like to think that this is just Fire mocking Gob, but it could be an underhanded attempt at cutting off a push early for various reasons.

I know you're working on sorting fire over there (ostensibly) but this post seems like such a strange one to focus in on, when you have the breadth of Fire's (massive, and there's still plenty of d1 ahead) iso to choose from.

"Sounds towny but feels scummy" - is such weird shade, too, I mean what does that even mean?

This post is setting off alarm bells

This post ironically is setting of my alarm bells

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me and ydrasse had a conversation about her alt/main that Duckie seemed to miss in this game. I wonder if thats alignment telling

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ill allow u
VOTE: Pavowski

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dannflor if i told u i was testing u, do u think u passed or failed

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cant i just be scum making up that i am testing u

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well the answer i was looking for was:
"ur not testing me"

and that would have been correct

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So i take away 10 town points from dannflor house

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People become so much harder for me to read when they townread.
I can't tell when townreads are bullshit anymore.

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Made a really bad cube draft deck

Was gonna be 4 color but got offered an oblivion ring so I had to play oblivion ring as my only white card. Just had to

Is this Magic the Gathering we talking about

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People become so much harder for me to read when they townread me.
I can't tell when townreads are bullshit anymore.

Fixed

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i'm so sad you posted this but didn't react to my funny response saying the same thing.

well urs was a joke, i am serious.
I did find it amusing u commented the same thing as me when i went back after making the post.

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Name four elements of the periodic table

a table has a flat surface and four wooden legs
i can't name two other things, maybe a cup holder can be added to the periodic table and a drawer

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yesssiree what do u say to the accusation that u seem more focused and on point with ur thoughts and analysis compared to cop 17er

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VOTE: gob

100% the hammer was a scum hammering

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Firebringer with the pivot back onto me somehow.

He might be scum here.

did you rng the decision on whether to call me scum or town.

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pretending like im doing a pivot is pretty funny.

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i mean - yeah. NAS wasn't playing well (at all) and was a liability tbh. hammering and then being like "well well well, let's find those scums off the wagon" isn't a super good look.

If you lik mafia day 1 the person who never voted that slot is likely mafia. Its happened before

Bussing happens of course but its more likely they don’t interact as much.

most players didn't interact with NAS. ur trying to rule urself out. For instance NAS voting u conveniently takes u out of the equation.
Not to mention as others pointed out that ur insistence the end of day wagon is clean.

Honestly even if ur town here i think ur covering for a 100% mafia buss here. Scum win more games when one of their own dies day 1 because of bussing.

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am i the only one who thinks scum are clueless for killing ydrasse.

no offense ydrasse but i don't think u were that highly townread? U were mid tier town for myself.

Also thought it was obvious u weren't a vig or had a good role.

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actually i guess its possible that ydrasse was a vig kill? Ummm would def bit a weird I guess

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ydrasse/june iso is pretty empty i can kind of see a vig getting rid of someone that they thought was a buss on NAS and empty posting.

Meh. I feel iffy on this im still leaning scum kill.

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whats new with u penguinpower

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whats new with u penguinpower

i'm going to atlanta!

oh yeah

@mod: v/la 3/9-3/12

have fun, I am going to be in san francisco most of next week

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Hye Firebringer, do you still think Ducklan is the root of all evil?

he is definitely the worst.

I don't really think the duck is that scummy right now

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I don't feel like theres any point in making this game day very long tbh

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i mean i don't want to get into the trap of just speedlimming to losing the game, but I want more flips for more information and I feel like this game day might drag on to make apathy which is much worse for us. I think we elim gob here see if im on the right path, if not then we give vig a shot or more night info or something.

I am not really interested in doing a lot of more hunting or talking and debating this game day like the did day 1

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also don't want to hear anything about the speed of gob wagon is indicative that gob isn't scum here. There is only one other scum assuming gob is scum as well. Scum barely have ability to influence wagons here.

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Firebringer never really talked about NAS. Also Firebringer seems to agree with yesiree's slight SR on NAS, but thats up to intrepretation

Lol, if ur going to make up a case against me. At least pretend like ur actually trying to solve me.

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does NaS really feel like the slot with the highest percent chance of flipping scum

yes

that might be true but im not sure why that makes NaS a better shot at scum over like brian or yessirree or pavowski who are all lurky or low-impact but have also posted discernibly more alignment indicative content

yessiree agrees with me therefore he is town.
actually that might be a scum case for him.

I don't want yessiree to be gone today.

Ur right on that one. Ill think about this more, I think NotAScum is pretty blatantly not solving the game and playing lip service with the push on Oblivion. Anti town at worst, Scum at best. No skin of my bones if im wrong on NotAScum in my opinion

Brian/Yessiree/Pravowski can be sorted tomorrow/night actions and are better use of it than NotAScum

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ya anyway so the speed of the gob wagon makes me think he's probably not scum here

UR NOT BEING FUNNY

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Here’s a hint: what am I very well known for doing day 1 and what did I do?

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i feel like im the only player brazen enough to do same numbers in this game

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im pretty much considered u cleared dannflor

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my head is killing me

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also don't want to hear anything about the speed of gob wagon is indicative that gob isn't scum here. There is only one other scum assuming gob is scum as well. Scum barely have ability to influence wagons here.

My take on this:

The speed of the Gob wagon is more indicative of the playerbase's general will to get rid of an annoying player (a policy axe, if you will) rather than any one team pushing for an axe.

I will say though that this assumption (that scum have little power to dictate wagons) only holds if scum are in the lurkers and not in the active players. If, as an example, Firebringer and Dave were both scum, then the wolves would have a huge influence over what wagons get pushed.

this is so wrong and i just don't see the point in arguing with u about it

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i feel like im the only player brazen enough to do same numbers in this game

???? Id obviously do it with you

i don't think u had time to talk to allies to coordinate picks, u were out sick much of early day 1 if i recall

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It is currently not voting Gob for the sake of fear of another quick hammer, it wishes to kill Gob regardless of claim except for perhaps Cop, but imagine it's full support on that.

is there something you want to do while we are stalling the wagon train

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u got hammered, and u confessed to being mafia just a minute ago.
Just waiting on dats for the flip.

Hows the weed Gob?

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It is currently not voting Gob for the sake of fear of another quick hammer, it wishes to kill Gob regardless of claim except for perhaps Cop, but imagine it's full support on that.

is there something you want to do while we are stalling the wagon train

Why do you want to lim me so quickly? Can't we just chill & let the game move forward.

ur forgetting ur read of me is mafia

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gob if u want to go and try fake claiming to save urself.

We all ears for ur fake.

It might be the best way u help ur last scum buddy at this point to get reactions for him/her to flush out more PRs for ur team

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the feigning ignorance isn't helping u.

this is what we call a 1v1.

If ur scumreading me, u build out a case and argue to people about why i am scum.
I do the same to u, which i am doing now because this pretending u don't know whats going on, isn't townie.

ur questions aren't u building a case or arguing why i am scum

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that was obviously directed at gob ^

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pavowski already answered some of that in like his next post worstie

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Who knew that a example I choose specifically because they were generally townread and thus would be a poor example of scum could immediately revoke all of the towncred they had in my eyes.

ur talking in another language here

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where was this aggro duck when i was all up in his face day 1

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fevers are the ducks kryptonite apparently

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kind of think last scum might be may but i admit this is a really weak vibe read on the current game state mostly

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i think yessiree being last scum would be spicy since it feels like he is so fucking on point this game that it might be informed. But he probably just town in the zone or somethin

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i also find a yessiree/gob team a bit strange

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Spoiler: Ramblings

PenguinPower 4
davesaz 6
Ydrasse June 10
Pavowski 11
gob 55
May 98
yessiree 666
Jake The Wolfie 628318530717958
Firebringer 1
Oblivion 1
Dannflor Dunnstral 2
NotAScum 2
the worst 3
Brian Skies 3

if we go with dannflor theory of scum strat was high, mid and low to try to get one person high in draft. Then if we say NotAscum is the high pick.

I think the mid pick would be in June/Pavoski/Gob/davesaz ; although Gob is more like high pick likely to be unique.

The high picks to guarantee unique are gob , may, yessiree, and Jake.
Yessiree and Jake picks look the least like trying to score the best. Obviously jake doing meme pick.

So if one scum from each grouping if we said theres no more scum in the high picks. [Not sure how much I believe this. This is assuming scum coordinates at all on picks and scum decisions seem stupid so far to me]

One in {Gob, May,Yessiree and Jake}
One in {Pavoski/Gob/Davesaz]

Ehh don't know where im going with this. This isn't real scumhunting

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Well, if you think I'm as objectively and obviously wrong as you seem to think, you have the freedom to express why.

i know this game is about making lots of arguments and arguing
but i try to limit the amount of worthless arguments i get into that just aren't worth anything

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gob if u want to fake claim, this is ur chance

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i prefer to see gob try to turn this around. but u know

feels like he is in defeated mode

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this is the last time we'll have so many competent players

Duckie confessing to killing competent players here

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if im dead tonight though, that disproves duckie killed me.

[Firebringer]

this is the last time we'll have so many competent players

Duckie confessing to killing competent players here

I confess to killing duckie.

caught u red handed

i jailkept duckie last night

[Firebringer]

better luck next time my bird friend

[Firebringer]

u did hammer

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I'm so hungry about to eat reheat frennc fries

this is such a bad life decision

[Firebringer]

i need an id to prove ur actually an adult

[Firebringer]

At this point we popcorn claim I say we start with worstie

[Firebringer]

i am back and sad to see penguin dead

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what did worstie claim,
i literally posted midday at work to say that worstie should claim and didn't even process penguin death

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Massclaim is pointless in this setup right

theres no point in not claiming now imo. What benefit is there for leaving info unannounced at this point with one scum

idk firebringer said we should do it and i believed him

good man

[Firebringer]

i didn't see claims from worstie or even jake but apparently he is clear

I am missing context even when i caught up.

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PenguinPower	4	Town Ascetic Cop
davesaz	6	neighborized, tracker
Ydrasse June	10	Town Rolecop
Pavowski	11	inno, tracked n2
gob	55	Mafia 2-shot PGO
May	98
yessiree	666
Jake The Wolfie	628318530717958	neighborizer, cleared by acting n2
Firebringer	1
Oblivion	1	neighborized
Dannflor Dunnstral	2
NotAScum	2	Mafia 1-shot Watcher
the worst	3
Brian Skies	3	crumbed clear by Penguin?

isn't this auto?
Like the only possible scum are in worstie, may, dannflor, and oblivion.

Oblivion is town by play i argue.
Dannflor is clear by play and picks imo.

Not mech clears but w/e.

I am cleared by role as well when I announce but im waiting on worstie.

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i guess yessiree could be scum still. Probably not auto

[Firebringer]

davesaz
Dannflor
Jake The Wolfie
May
Pavowski
Oblivion
Brian Skies
the worst
yessiree
Firebringer

in my world 5 of these are hard clears already. We should be able to get at least 1 more tonight as long as davesaz clears a new player.

[Firebringer]

Ehh fuck it im not waiting on worstie to claim.

I am doctor

[Firebringer]

yeah its auto

[Firebringer]

Ehh fuck it im not waiting on worstie to claim.

I am doctor

So all you have to do is protect Dave tonight and we should have auto either by way of:

1) Dave clearing 1 extra person while you die, making it Dave, Pav, Jake, Brian + one other vs 4 uncleared, which is guaranteed.
2) You being fake, but if Dave ever dies before you, you die and if Dave doesn't die he ends the game for town.
3) If scum choose to no kill, we kill everyone on the list of Oblivion, The Worst, Yessiree, May, Dann and leave only Dave, Pav, Jake, Brian, You. Dave then gets to track you, and if you no kill it's still 5 alive, leaving kill you + kill Dave and it ends. If you kill Dave, see option 2.
4) Dave being fake, which means when you die and dave makes a clear, if Dave doesn't die the night after you die he gives a second clear and then we kill Dave because we still have enough clears at that point.

Is this all correct, is it missing any scenarios?

Is this correct? Has it missed anything?

pretty sure u nailed it

[Firebringer]

VOTE: May

just because u said u wanted to prove datisi ur not bad at this game and i think it would be funny if ur scum and die today.

[Firebringer]

ohhh well good game

[Firebringer]

can we still just elim May for memes

[Firebringer]

Okay, understood.

It is Night 3 Vig.

Vote: Oblivion

please vote someone else and shoot one of the non-cleared

Oblivion is claiming scum

[Firebringer]

i think u played really well oblivion.
u had me deep in ur pocket

[Firebringer]

VOTE: Oblivion

we can end it here then

[Firebringer]

it doesn't help when both ur teammates get sacked by night 2

[Firebringer]

i will pretend i elimmed May in spirit since we can't just screw around and elim her for real

[Firebringer]

my night actions btw were:

n1 penguin n2 dannflor

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what was the reason behind the june/ydra kill

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i was 100% certain ydrasse wasn't a cop lol. She was obviously trying to pretend she was one

[Firebringer]

Ydrasse WAS a cop. Just not the one you would normally expect.

WorstCop

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just blame everything on datisi

[Firebringer]

thats what i do

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tbh u remained in my to be sorted folder this whole game

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until the clear obviously

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may is the real scum in this game

[Firebringer]

im telling u yessiree, may is the real scum

[Firebringer]

Good game to everyone, including the true winner, GeorgeBailey.

True

all hail GeorgeBailey