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[Enchant]

And player list iofc

[PenguinPower]

sorry - holiday.

happy with the current wagon

[Titus]

I didn't like the response from you when I saw the pattern of people FoSing you. To try and claim that's defensive is a bit outlandish.

[StraightFlush]

Not really that defensive fmpov, and you choosing to call it out only makes me more sure I'm onto something with that observation. On the bright side, it probably gives me a reason to townread you even harder

[KayJayQueue]

I really wish I could understand this pov. I’m not seeing it and I’m trying really hard not to be influenced by my earlier reads. I’m going to resist the urge to vote Titus again here and just go back to the wagon I feel is best for today.

VOTE: yessiree


I think I need to reread Titus from as clean of a slate as possible.

[BlackStar]

Not really that defensive fmpov

, and you choosing to call it out only makes me more sure I'm onto something with that observation. On the bright side, it probably gives me a reason to townread you even harder

Didn't you call Titus defensive here?

hmmmmmm. Actually, this is an odd response since Titus is one of the main people that it's been said I could be linked to.

Seems strangely defensive to draw that conclusion in this context

[StraightFlush]

Not really that defensive fmpov

, and you choosing to call it out only makes me more sure I'm onto something with that observation. On the bright side, it probably gives me a reason to townread you even harder

Didn't you call Titus defensive here?

hmmmmmm. Actually, this is an odd response since Titus is one of the main people that it's been said I could be linked to.

Seems strangely defensive to draw that conclusion in this context

It seems I misread, I thought Titus was calling me defensive there so I was responding to that with disagreement. Shit I really shouldn't read this thread right after waking up

[Titus]

Straightflush Blackstar +1

[Political Clout]

Welcome enchant.

[KayJayQueue]

Straightflush Blackstar +1

I don’t want to misinterpret, what did you mean here?

[Hu Tao]

I'm also fine with a straightflush elim

[KayJayQueue]

Hmm. What am I not seeing with straightflush?

[Brian Skies]

I would prefer StraightFlush to yessiree, but it's not really something I'm excited about.

[Brian Skies]

Straightflush Blackstar +1

I don’t want to misinterpret, what did you mean here?

I'm guessing she means the scumteam is StraightFlush, Blackstar, and one more person.

[KayJayQueue]

Straightflush Blackstar +1

I don’t want to misinterpret, what did you mean here?

I'm guessing she means the scumteam is StraightFlush, Blackstar, and one more person.

So that would mean SF’s scumread and vote on BlackStar is theater? In her opinion.

Feel free to correct me, Titus.

[StraightFlush]

If I had a nickel for every time someone scumread me for unrealistically sloppy "scumdistancing" in this game, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot but it's weird that it happened twice

[KayJayQueue]

yessiree not gaining any steam and not posting just makes me think we're on the right path

You can also argue the opposite

Jack tell me again why you don’t want to vote yessiree?

Do you think a Titus lim is possible or probable?

[yessiree]

Hmm. What am I not seeing with straightflush?

how are you reading that slot?

[KayJayQueue]

Hmm. What am I not seeing with straightflush?

how are you reading that slot?

Slight townlean currently. But I’m surprised how many people feel the opposite so I’m worried I’ve missed something.

[yessiree]

Spoiler: quotes

This exchange reads like scumdistancing imo, just a lot of worst-faith readings of each other and not a ton of substance.

For Brian, I just don't get any read on how he wants to act/what impact he wants to have on the game. The "analyzer" thing and the talk around that is especially weird.

For PC, I just think his early selfvote and posting habits since then have kinda invited this kind of argument, and there's not much benefit for him to continue engaging with it atp

VOTE: Brian Skies

You're all over the place right now, your response to Smiley seems to confirm that you're making up reasons to hound PC as you go along.

Current reads, not ordered with in categories since I don't have the braincells for it rn:

TOWN
Smiley
Random Nurse
Greeting
Hu Tao

NULL
PenguinPower
KayJayQueue

MIXED
Political Clout
Titus
davesaz
yessiree

SCUM
Brian Skies
BlackStar

Surprisingly even spread all things considered

TOWN

Greeting

TOWNREADS

SmileyDude1
StraightFlush

TOWNLEANS

yessiree
davesaz

NULL

Hu Tao
PenguinPower
Random Nurse
KayJayQueue

EH?

Brian Skies
Political Clout
Titus

SCUMREADS

BlackStar

Nice color coding, I should try doing stuff like that on this site

Interested to hear about those takes on Dave and Nurse, not what I was expecting.

This exchange reads like scumdistancing imo, just a lot of worst-faith readings of each other and not a ton of substance.

For Brian, I just don't get any read on how he wants to act/what impact he wants to have on the game. The "analyzer" thing and the talk around that is especially weird.

For PC, I just think his early selfvote and posting habits since then have kinda invited this kind of argument, and there's not much benefit for him to continue engaging with it atp

I'm not at all convinced if this is scum distancing. I do think there is a decent chance of at least one scum amongst these two though.

Yeah the rest of the convo after that definitely made me come closer to your interpretation

Then again, I feel icky about jumping on the

Brian Skies

wagon, because I could very well see their posts coming from a townie perspective and also I feel icky about most people who already are voting them.

What do you think a better vote is?

I think

Random Nurse

contributed very little and I'm happy with that wagon building up. The posts I read while running his ISO seemed like he really had nothing to say even in the few times when he did post.

VOTE: Random Nurse

I disagree with the premise of this vote. Nurse has been inactive for a while for unknown reasons to the point of a modprod, and we've had zero chance to see them catch up to important thread activities like the Brian wagon, the whole PC v. Brian thing, Titus actually doing stuff, etc. Not really reasonable to go here until he's engaged again

UNVOTE:

I have reached the conclusion that if Brian is scum, then he is an inconceivably bad player. I am not ready to make that assumption.

Considering a vote on either Greeting or KayJayQueue. Perhaps Random Nurse too if he continues to get nowhere in terms of thread presence

How do you feel about his most recent posts?

NAI in a vacuum but when you combine it with just how long it’s been since he was really substantive it starts to get concerning. Definitely more amenable to voting him than I would’ve been three days ago

VOTE: Greeting

went through his day 1 again, this is his progression on Greeting, I find it pretty disingenuous how he shifted from townread to scumread

he starts off from scumreading both Brian vs PC for scum distancing and a clear townread on Greeting
-> to agreeing with Greeting that only one of {Brian, PC} contains scum
-> to scumreading Greeting based on disagreeing with the premise of Greeting voting nurse
-> to considering voting both Greeting and nurse
-> to voting Greeting once smiley dropped his case and there was signs of momentum on a Greeting wagon

[StraightFlush]

If you think that progression is scummy then that's fine, you do you. I would like to clarify/point out a couple of things here though:

1. My shift to scumreading Greeting was based more on their behavior around PC v. Brian than the Nurse vote, although both played a part. I should specifically mention that someone insisting that a 1v1 is unaligned and voting for neither looks a lot more scummy when you think it's TvT, which I did based on Brian's behavior after a certain point.
2. 36 hours passed between me calling out Greeting's Nurse vote and me saying I was amenable to a Nurse vote, during which Nurse remained inactive/non-substantive; my previous objection to Greeting was based on the assumption that he'd come alive a bit more during that window.

[StraightFlush]

I still mostly townread you and think you've been pretty decent with discussion this game, so I'll assume the difference of interpretations here is in good faith, rather than some Word-Twisting Wally shenanigans.

[StraightFlush]

I still mostly townread you and think you've been pretty decent with discussion this game, so I'll assume the difference of interpretations here is in good faith, rather than some Word-Twisting Wally shenanigans.

[StraightFlush]

god dammit why did that duplicate

[yessiree]

I still mostly townread you and think you've been pretty decent with discussion this game, so I'll assume the difference of interpretations here is in good faith, rather than some Word-Twisting Wally shenanigans.

I never got the impression you were townreading me?

didn't you have me at null before