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[KayJayQueue]

If we don’t get today’s vote correct, we just lose, right?

Does anyone have an idea of who would be BlackStar’s partner if he’s scum?

I think if it’s Hu Tao, it has to be Titus also.

[Enchant]

I don't think answering that benefits town.

If BlackStar mafia, Hu Tao died. Then we forced to no-lim.

[KayJayQueue]

I have another question, if we believe Hu Tao that Titus was supposed to be the kill. What do you think the reasoning for that kill is? Did everyone think Titus was for sure town? I know I didn’t.

[Enchant]

PR hunt probably.

Hu Tao theory about mafia trying to claim guilty on roleblocker makes sense.

[KayJayQueue]

N1 Kay
N2 PC
N3 Kay
N4 Titus

These are my targets. My role is confirmed since N3 there was no action on Kay.

Can you explain your reasoning for your choices each night?


Also - do you really think I could be bad this game? If you believe BlackStar is scum because of your role and his claim, do you think I am partnered with him?

[Hu Tao]

N1 Kay
N2 PC
N3 Kay
N4 Titus

These are my targets. My role is confirmed since N3 there was no action on Kay.

Can you explain your reasoning for your choices each night?


Also - do you really think I could be bad this game? If you believe BlackStar is scum because of your role and his claim, do you think I am partnered with him?

Well you had me as lock town until today when it matters so it's sus. And I targeted my townreads

[Hu Tao]

I have another question, if we believe Hu Tao that Titus was supposed to be the kill. What do you think the reasoning for that kill is? Did everyone think Titus was for sure town? I know I didn’t.

I expected you to die. But couldn't target you. So it's also kinda sus that they went for titus. But it could be cause they thought you couldn't be targeted.

[KayJayQueue]

Well that’s the thing, I also expected to die. I find it very odd that Titus would be targeted over both me and you.

[Hu Tao]

That is fair. Claims aside, who do you think was scum yesterday

[Enchant]

I have another question, if we believe Hu Tao that Titus was supposed to be the kill. What do you think the reasoning for that kill is? Did everyone think Titus was for sure town? I know I didn’t.

I expected you to die. But couldn't target you.

Indecisive?

[KayJayQueue]

That is fair. Claims aside, who do you think was scum yesterday

I thought the last two were within: Penguin, BlackStar and Titus. I was surprised at the flip. But more surprised at the no kill at night.

[Brian Skies]

Spoiler:

1.10

Sorry for the recent lack of flavor, life events have been happening

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greeting (7) :

Titus / StraightFlush / BlackStar / PenguinPower / Davesaz / SmileyDude1 / yessiree

Political Clout (1) :

Brian Skies

Brian Skies (1) :

Political Clout

Random Nurse (1) :

Greeting

StraightFlush (1) :

Hu Tao

Titus (1) :

KayJayQueue

Not Voting (1) :

Random Nurse

With 13 alive, it takes 7 votes to execute someone, day 1 ends in (expired on 2024-03-25 13:02:46)

2.5

I really need to get better a doing flavor like wow i'm so bad at this

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StraightFlush (6) :

BlackStar / PenguinPower / yessiree / Titus / Brian Skies / Enchant

[Execution !]

yessiree (3)

Hu Tao / Political Clout / KayJayQueue

Titus (1) :

JacksonVirgo

Enchant (1) :

StraightFlush

Not Voting (0) :

With 11 alive, it takes 6 votes to execute someone, day 2 ends in (expired on 2024-04-04 04:20:49)

3.2

yessiree (5) :

KayJayQueue / Political Clout / Hu Tao / Titus / Enchant

Execution !

Enchant (1) :

yessiree

Not Voting (3) :

PenguinPower / BlackStar / Brian Skies

With 9 alive, it takes 5 votes to execute someone, day 3 ends in (expired on 2024-04-13 06:25:46)

4.3

PenguinPower (4) :

KayJayQueue / Hu Tao / Enchant / Brian Skies

[Execution !]

Hu Tao (1) :

Blackstar

Enchant (1) :

Titus

KayJayQueue (1) :

PenguinPower

Not Voting (0) :

With 7 alive, it takes 4 votes to execute someone, day 4 ends in (expired on 2024-04-16 06:09:28)

As far as final votes go, Blackstar started off on two town eliminations before being off the yessiree elimination. He was off the Penguin elimination, but overall his voting history does not look as good as Hu Tao's.

Hu Tao, on the other hand, was off both the first two town eliminations and on the yessiree elimination. They were also on the Penguin elimination, but considering the speed of the elimination after Penguin's claim, it's hard to say what she would have done if given the chance to respond after the claim. One could also argue Hu Tao went for the long bus on Yessiree. On day two, yessiree was a consistent vote that she chose over straightflush, who she had been voting at end of Day 1. This makes me feel better about her vote there and not as worried about bussing. She also did not tend to chase wagons, typically voting by herself or at the front of a wagon (first or second). This voting pattern makes me think she didn't want too much attention (I could be wrong here), and falls in line with her playing like a protective role.

So as far as voting goes, I'm leaning toward Hu Tao-town.

[Hu Tao]

I have another question, if we believe Hu Tao that Titus was supposed to be the kill. What do you think the reasoning for that kill is? Did everyone think Titus was for sure town? I know I didn’t.

I expected you to die. But couldn't target you.

Indecisive?

Yes I claimed that earlier

[Hu Tao]

That is fair. Claims aside, who do you think was scum yesterday

I thought the last two were within: Penguin, BlackStar and Titus. I was surprised at the flip. But more surprised at the no kill at night.

So if your biggest townread is clearing Titus, and Penguin is dead. Blackstar is all that's left

[KayJayQueue]

That is fair. Claims aside, who do you think was scum yesterday

I thought the last two were within: Penguin, BlackStar and Titus. I was surprised at the flip. But more surprised at the no kill at night.

So if your biggest townread is clearing Titus, and Penguin is dead. Blackstar is all that's left

But before you claimed, I thought BlackStar was pulling a move to clear himself by getting us to vote Titus (scum partner). You say you clear Titus but if scum didn’t kill at night on purpose, then Titus isn’t clear, right? Your PR might just lose us the game if you are wrongly clearing Titus. But if we use this logic and clear Titus, when we get down to 3 and Titus is “clear”…well I just worry for that situation. Because if we vote BlackStar and he flips red, how are we going to determine his partner? (If he flips green, we just lose)

[BlackStar]

Lets recap Hu Tao’s actions from today

- Claims VT
- Changes her mind days later and claims to be rolestopper. She can’t remember who she stopped on Day 3 and has to change her claim
- She “realizes” days later that if she was a town rolestopper then her night action would have saved Titus
- She claims that she knew this all along even though she made a post that directly contradicts this

It should be abundantly clear at this point that she’s just making things up as she goes along. I caught her partner and she’s been running scared ever since. I can’t believe you guys are about to kill your third PR of the game instead of just listening to me. This is crazy

[KayJayQueue]

I’ve played with town!Hu before where she claimed VT day 1 but had a PR. I haven’t played with scum!Hu yet to know what’s different.

[Brian Skies]

Titus iso is so sparse, I'm confounded that anyone can have a confident townread there. But alas, here we are, trying to figure out if she's town or scum.

Spoiler:

Not really interested in limming bs day 1 on his first game back in ages.

The amount of people saying straightfish could be linked with someone makes me think straightfush is scum.

It's good to see this day phase hasn't passed me by as well.

yessiree being scum is a big disappointment for me reads wise, but I suppose me not being there yesterday was beneficial in that I couldn't be a distraction from the wagon.

The two remaining players from my wagon day 1 are blackstar and kayjay, and I'm inclined to believe they are both town. I have a sneaking suspicion my wagon was all-town and that PC was the scum-counterwagon to me.

This leaves me with PenguinPower and Titus from the PC wagon on Day 1. Titus I'm already suspicious of, and I suppose PenguinPower could be scum. But I don't think both can be scum together, as that would mean all three scum were voting PC.

The off-wagon votes (from from Day 1 PC and BS wagons) are Hu Tao and Random Nurse. Hu Tao could be argued as an early busser of yessiree, but probably not. Random Nurse was mostly inactive and avoided both wagons. Between the two, I'm more inclined to believe the Random Nurse slot to be scum.

PenguinPower, Titus, and Enchant slot (aka Random Nurse slot) were also on the StraightFlush (town) elimination instead of the Day 2 yessiree (scum) wagon. This makes me believe the remaining two scum are within those three.

Titus and Enchant were also on the backend of the yessiree elimination, which makes me think one of the two could have been bussing. Of the two, I think the Enchant slot is scummier. And Enchant hammered scum without a claim, which reflects poorly in my eyes as I feel a scumbuddy would feel more comfortable to do so. I believe PenguinPower was also claiming intent, so we can lump him in as a potential late busser as well.

PenguinPower and Titus have a tendency to be on the same wagon, which makes me think they're not together. And the end of Day 3 where Penguin asks for a claim and Enchant just hammers also makes me think those two are not together.

So if I had to pick two for the scumteam, I'd probably go with Enchant and Titus.

VOTE: Random Nurse

Random bs penguin that order

282 made me wrinkle my nose as I thought it was a weak reason to not eliminate me on Day 1. She did say she leaned town on me, although I'm not sure if this was legitimate or early buddying.

Early Day 2, she started voting yessiree before stating 838 and voting straightflush. Seems reasonable to vote StraightFlush there. Perhaps town influenced by groupthink? Does return to voting yessiree next day.

I made a vca post grouping Titus and Enchant. Titus responds by declaring we should eliminate Enchant then me then Penguin. For some reason I don't get this as serious and more of a bluff. At the time, I could see this being made by scum-Titus if Enchant were scum too (eliminate partner, then the two mislims needed for a win). But knowing that Titus has to be paired with Hu Tao if scum, this makes less sense as a scum post.

It's not strong by any means, but I can see a world where Titus is town here.

[Brian Skies]

My biggest issue right now pertains to the yessiree wagon. If Hu Tao and Titus are both town, then Kay and Enchant are the only potential bussers there.

[KayJayQueue]

I made the case against yessiree the day StraightFlush was voted out and immediately voted him again the next day phase. I don’t see how I’d be a potential busser in this case.

[KayJayQueue]

My only mistake was thinking Penguin was partnered with him and his botched claim was the nail in the coffin. So, unfortunately it was more my fault that Penguin got flipped but I really believed it at that point.

[Brian Skies]

I wouldn't hold that against you. Three of us here are guilty of thinking the same thing.

[Brian Skies]

Blackstar being scum would mean there was scum on my wagon Day 1.

[Brian Skies]

I'm just gonna go with my reads.

VOTE: Titus

[Hu Tao]