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KayJayQueue She/HerMafia ScumShe/Her
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If we don’t get today’s vote correct, we just lose, right?
Does anyone have an idea of who would be BlackStar’s partner if he’s scum?
I think if it’s Hu Tao, it has to be Titus also.-
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Enchant Survivor
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I don't think answering that benefits town.
If BlackStar mafia, Hu Tao died. Then we forced to no-lim.Wizard-Mercenary
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I have another question, if we believe Hu Tao that Titus was supposed to be the kill. What do you think the reasoning for that kill is? Did everyone think Titus was for sure town? I know I didn’t.-
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PR hunt probably.
Hu Tao theory about mafia trying to claim guilty on roleblocker makes sense.Wizard-Mercenary
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KayJayQueue She/HerMafia ScumShe/Her
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Can you explain your reasoning for your choices each night?In post 1192, Hu Tao wrote: N1 Kay
N2 PC
N3 Kay
N4 Titus
These are my targets. My role is confirmed since N3 there was no action on Kay.
Also - do you really think I could be bad this game? If you believe BlackStar is scum because of your role and his claim, do you think I am partnered with him?-
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Hu Tao she/herJack of All Tradesshe/her
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Well you had me as lock town until today when it matters so it's sus. And I targeted my townreadsIn post 1279, KayJayQueue wrote:
Can you explain your reasoning for your choices each night?In post 1192, Hu Tao wrote: N1 Kay
N2 PC
N3 Kay
N4 Titus
These are my targets. My role is confirmed since N3 there was no action on Kay.
Also - do you really think I could be bad this game? If you believe BlackStar is scum because of your role and his claim, do you think I am partnered with him?-
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I expected you to die. But couldn't target you. So it's also kinda sus that they went for titus. But it could be cause they thought you couldn't be targeted.In post 1277, KayJayQueue wrote: I have another question, if we believe Hu Tao that Titus was supposed to be the kill. What do you think the reasoning for that kill is? Did everyone think Titus was for sure town? I know I didn’t.-
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KayJayQueue She/HerMafia ScumShe/Her
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Well that’s the thing, I also expected to die. I find it very odd that Titus would be targeted over both me and you.-
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Hu Tao she/herJack of All Tradesshe/her
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That is fair. Claims aside, who do you think was scum yesterday-
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In post 1281, Hu Tao wrote:
I expected you to die. But couldn't target you.In post 1277, KayJayQueue wrote: I have another question, if we believe Hu Tao that Titus was supposed to be the kill. What do you think the reasoning for that kill is? Did everyone think Titus was for sure town? I know I didn’t.
Indecisive?Wizard-Mercenary
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KayJayQueue She/HerMafia ScumShe/Her
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I thought the last two were within: Penguin, BlackStar and Titus. I was surprised at the flip. But more surprised at the no kill at night.In post 1283, Hu Tao wrote: That is fair. Claims aside, who do you think was scum yesterday-
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Spoiler:
As far as final votes go, Blackstar started off on two town eliminations before being off the yessiree elimination. He was off the Penguin elimination, but overall his voting history does not look as good as Hu Tao's.
Hu Tao, on the other hand, was off both the first two town eliminations and on the yessiree elimination. They were also on the Penguin elimination, but considering the speed of the elimination after Penguin's claim, it's hard to say what she would have done if given the chance to respond after the claim. One could also argue Hu Tao went for the long bus on Yessiree. On day two, yessiree was a consistent vote that she chose over straightflush, who she had been voting at end of Day 1. This makes me feel better about her vote there and not as worried about bussing. She also did not tend to chase wagons, typically voting by herself or at the front of a wagon (first or second). This voting pattern makes me think she didn't want too much attention (I could be wrong here), and falls in line with her playing like a protective role.
So as far as voting goes, I'm leaning toward Hu Tao-town.-
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Hu Tao she/herJack of All Tradesshe/her
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Yes I claimed that earlierIn post 1284, Enchant wrote:In post 1281, Hu Tao wrote:
I expected you to die. But couldn't target you.In post 1277, KayJayQueue wrote: I have another question, if we believe Hu Tao that Titus was supposed to be the kill. What do you think the reasoning for that kill is? Did everyone think Titus was for sure town? I know I didn’t.
Indecisive?-
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So if your biggest townread is clearing Titus, and Penguin is dead. Blackstar is all that's leftIn post 1285, KayJayQueue wrote:
I thought the last two were within: Penguin, BlackStar and Titus. I was surprised at the flip. But more surprised at the no kill at night.In post 1283, Hu Tao wrote: That is fair. Claims aside, who do you think was scum yesterday-
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KayJayQueue She/HerMafia ScumShe/Her
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But before you claimed, I thought BlackStar was pulling a move to clear himself by getting us to vote Titus (scum partner). You say you clear Titus but if scum didn’t kill at night on purpose, then Titus isn’t clear, right? Your PR might just lose us the game if you are wrongly clearing Titus. But if we use this logic and clear Titus, when we get down to 3 and Titus is “clear”…well I just worry for that situation. Because if we vote BlackStar and he flips red, how are we going to determine his partner? (If he flips green, we just lose)In post 1288, Hu Tao wrote:
So if your biggest townread is clearing Titus, and Penguin is dead. Blackstar is all that's leftIn post 1285, KayJayQueue wrote:
I thought the last two were within: Penguin, BlackStar and Titus. I was surprised at the flip. But more surprised at the no kill at night.In post 1283, Hu Tao wrote: That is fair. Claims aside, who do you think was scum yesterday-
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Lets recap Hu Tao’s actions from today
- Claims VT
- Changes her mind days later and claims to be rolestopper. She can’t remember who she stopped on Day 3 and has to change her claim
- She “realizes” days later that if she was a town rolestopper then her night action would have saved Titus
- She claims that she knew this all along even though she made a post that directly contradicts this
It should be abundantly clear at this point that she’s just making things up as she goes along. I caught her partner and she’s been running scared ever since. I can’t believe you guys are about to kill your third PR of the game instead of just listening to me. This is crazy-
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I’ve played with town!Hu before where she claimed VT day 1 but had a PR. I haven’t played with scum!Hu yet to know what’s different.-
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Brian Skies Survivor
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Titus iso is so sparse, I'm confounded that anyone can have a confident townread there. But alas, here we are, trying to figure out if she's town or scum.
Spoiler:
282 made me wrinkle my nose as I thought it was a weak reason to not eliminate me on Day 1. She did say she leaned town on me, although I'm not sure if this was legitimate or early buddying.
Early Day 2, she started voting yessiree before stating 838 and voting straightflush. Seems reasonable to vote StraightFlush there. Perhaps town influenced by groupthink? Does return to voting yessiree next day.
I made a vca post grouping Titus and Enchant. Titus responds by declaring we should eliminate Enchant then me then Penguin. For some reason I don't get this as serious and more of a bluff. At the time, I could see this being made by scum-Titus if Enchant were scum too (eliminate partner, then the two mislims needed for a win). But knowing that Titus has to be paired with Hu Tao if scum, this makes less sense as a scum post.
It's not strong by any means, but I can see a world where Titus is town here.-
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My biggest issue right now pertains to the yessiree wagon. If Hu Tao and Titus are both town, then Kay and Enchant are the only potential bussers there.-
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KayJayQueue She/HerMafia ScumShe/Her
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I made the case against yessiree the day StraightFlush was voted out and immediately voted him again the next day phase. I don’t see how I’d be a potential busser in this case.-
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My only mistake was thinking Penguin was partnered with him and his botched claim was the nail in the coffin. So, unfortunately it was more my fault that Penguin got flipped but I really believed it at that point.-
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I wouldn't hold that against you. Three of us here are guilty of thinking the same thing.-
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Blackstar being scum would mean there was scum on my wagon Day 1.-
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I'm just gonna go with my reads.
VOTE: Titus-
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