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[JacksonVirgo]

VOTE: Kay voting my girlfriend to show I’m not biased guys trust!

[JacksonVirgo]

I’m gonna be live catching up, no wallposts this time cuz mobile

[JacksonVirgo]

it was yeah.

why? trying to be my fren? or trying to be anyones fren? or trying to be everyone's fren?

Would you consider it scummy if I was trying to do the above though. If so, why?

I would think you are hiding a pr. your entrance suggests eagerness your consecutives posts suggests stealth and trying to blend in. Your deflection suggests slight annoyance at me.

Well, this is town

[JacksonVirgo]

Use your imagination.

Yeah this is just scum angry at being caught so soon.

No

[JacksonVirgo]

Current reads, not ordered with in categories since I don't have the braincells for it rn:

TOWN
Smiley
Random Nurse
Greeting
Hu Tao

NULL
PenguinPower
KayJayQueue

MIXED
Political Clout
Titus
davesaz
yessiree

SCUM
Brian Skies
BlackStar

Surprisingly even spread all things considered

This is town too

[JacksonVirgo]

I’m a little shocked PC didn’t die N1 with this but yet to catch up obv

[JacksonVirgo]

Hello everyone

also VOTE: Brian Skies

sorry, RNG told me you were scum. Don't make the rules

just tried it 2 more times and got Random Nurse and Blackstar.

Game is solved, you can thank me later.

Interesting, I think there is a subtext in these posts. I think PC may have thought the same thing.

I got excited that dave was here forgetting that I am now dave

[JacksonVirgo]

Fuck mooooiiiii

[JacksonVirgo]

I think I’ve absorbed about 1/10000 of this game so far

[JacksonVirgo]

UNVOTE:

I have reached the conclusion that if Brian is scum, then he is an inconceivably bad player. I am not ready to make that assumption.

This seems massively uncalled for

[JacksonVirgo]

i can't recall anything that user has said or done

Studies show that blueberries, avocados, leafy greens, fatty fish and eggs help improve memory. Also you could look at my ISO.

Locktown, I regret voting here

[JacksonVirgo]

WE TOPPING THE PAGES WITH THIS ONE!

You’re not making out of the grave though

[JacksonVirgo]

I feel better about straightflush today.

Same I think he’s pretty clearly town

[JacksonVirgo]

Town

Brian Skies
KayJayQueue
PenguinPower
Random Nurse
BlackStar
davesaz
Titus
StraightFlush
Political Clout
Hu Tao

Scum

Anyway, where my head is at. I'm ok with limming any 1 of the bottom 3

This dumbass thought you were calling everyone town

[JacksonVirgo]

I’m thinking of voting titus or penguin here.

VOTE: titus

Consensus can come later

[JacksonVirgo]

Go for it, you don’t need my support

[JacksonVirgo]

I’m inherently for a yessiree wagon, but there’s no utility in me jumping on that so I’m spreading my feelers

[JacksonVirgo]

Consolidation comes later

[JacksonVirgo]

I’m inherently for a yessiree wagon, but there’s no utility in me jumping on that so I’m spreading my feelers

Smart. Might be a bus happening here, either way I smell a rat with that wagon

It’s almost certainly has a wolf on it, that’s regardless of this being a bus or not. I’m not married to the idea of them as wolf as you seem to be, to make this super clear

[JacksonVirgo]

Ignore my broken english

[JacksonVirgo]

I’m inherently for a yessiree wagon, but there’s no utility in me jumping on that so I’m spreading my feelers

Smart. Might be a bus happening here, either way I smell a rat with that wagon

I have a guess

Who?

[JacksonVirgo]

I’m inherently for a yessiree wagon, but there’s no utility in me jumping on that so I’m spreading my feelers

Smart. Might be a bus happening here, either way I smell a rat with that wagon

I have a guess

Who?

I figured it was obvious given my history in this game. I’m very wary of Titus.

I did assume it was but wanted to know for sure, my grasp on what’s happened is fuzzy. I’m not great at retaining info in bigger catch-ups

[JacksonVirgo]

It’s cuz Kay is wolf obviously, I hero voted them like a god!! I’m voting off them though because I’m a traitor

[JacksonVirgo]

I’m on the same line of thinking as you Kay, blackstar idk about but the other three

[JacksonVirgo]

:igmeoy: jackson. I think titus might be an easy person to go after in this game state and with titus being sick and away just not believable scum read to me. I think straightflush is just a frustrated townie. I think our current path leads to glory as well. we should lim yessirree.

Is your thoughts on the titus wagon here biased somewhat by your push for yessiree?

[JacksonVirgo]

They had zero votes before me, if they were so easy as an option against a scum!yessiree. Why wasn’t it formed before? Why did penguin have so few votes? Where’s the genuine counterpush?

[JacksonVirgo]

I’m starting to actively dislike the yessiree wagon now

[JacksonVirgo]

:igmeoy: jackson. I think titus might be an easy person to go after in this game state and with titus being sick and away just not believable scum read to me. I think straightflush is just a frustrated townie. I think our current path leads to glory as well. we should lim yessirree.

Is your thoughts on the titus wagon here biased somewhat by your push for yessiree?

hmmmm probably are you thinking yessiree is town here? Can I see which posts led you to titus = scum?

As I said, I am starting to dislike the wagon, it smells fishy. I don’t have time to quote, I was more tempted for penguin at first but decided to go wide and vote someone new entirely that I thought had good scum equity.

[JacksonVirgo]

Soom

[JacksonVirgo]

Soon* fuck my life

[JacksonVirgo]

Jackson finally giving me a decent read on the Dave slot that seems towny at this stage. Will keep monitoring

o7

[JacksonVirgo]

no matter how fishy it smells.

You smell like a dead trout.

You dare insult my gf?

VOTE: Flush!!!!!!1!

[JacksonVirgo]

VOTE: Titus

[JacksonVirgo]

:igmeoy: jackson. I think titus might be an easy person to go after in this game state and with titus being sick and away just not believable scum read to me. I think straightflush is just a frustrated townie. I think our current path leads to glory as well. we should lim yessirree.

Is your thoughts on the titus wagon here biased somewhat by your push for yessiree?

hmmmm probably are you thinking yessiree is town here? Can I see which posts led you to titus = scum?

As I said, I am starting to dislike the wagon, it smells fishy. I don’t have time to quote, I was more tempted for penguin at first but decided to go wide and vote someone new entirely that I thought had good scum equity.

I don't think you've read the game as you claimed to do a live catchup you would know titus is one of my strongest town reads and that the above was a lie. You last quoted yessiree 627 to appear to have read the game.

You expect me to retain everything? I already find it difficult to focus properly doing mundane tasks let alone this, you should be hospitable smh (am joking )

[JacksonVirgo]

I don’t believe I could be more clear about how little I’ve been able to actually absorb, I literally said as much. So don’t say shit like that alright? I wouldn’t lie like that when it’s so easily disproven, it’s not fun having that said to me

[JacksonVirgo]

Yeah, don’t respond to what I said

[JacksonVirgo]

They’ve been non-committal, they’ve added incredibly little of actual input outside of attempting to step between their so-called tvt back and forth only to go back on that cuz it “went stale” followed by a blind/naked vote on yessiree with a promise for vca. It’s not a good look

[JacksonVirgo]

Yeah, don’t respond to what I said

How can i believe that you believe that titus has scum equity when you don't want to quote their posts and said you aren't retaining the game at all? So either i believe what you are saying that titus has scum equity in your above post or believe you that you haven't retained the game? and what could you possibly want me to say about your AtE that would progress the game in a meaningful way?

If you think my approach to your play is wrong then I'm sorry.

You didn’t initially ask me to explain the read, you asked me to quote posts which I’m too busy to do. I’m not using AtE I am against you directly calling me a liar as the first response to me

[JacksonVirgo]

They’ve been non-committal, they’ve added incredibly little of actual input outside of attempting to step between their so-called tvt back and forth only to go back on that cuz it “went stale” followed by a blind/naked vote on yessiree with a promise for vca. It’s not a good look

Based on what's been happening with Titus during the game, I trust that they'll come back with some decent VCA when they have the time.

I feel like your interpretation of the slot is hamstrung by the limitations of catchup thread analysis

If they do, that’s great. Can you expand on that second bit?

[JacksonVirgo]

Sure, I have a different perspective than those that have been here the whole time. Cover for me as I’ll cover for you, it’s a team game. I think what I’m seeing is scummy, do you disagree? I assume you do, why?

[JacksonVirgo]

I need discussion on what I’m seeing more than discussion on our differences in perspective

[JacksonVirgo]

PC, you respond back to me for one post complaining about what I’m adding but didn’t respond to me actually elaborating on it?

[JacksonVirgo]

The issue with scum!Titus is that it's needlessly risky for them to start a wagon on a townflip (Greeting) when there was already clear sentiment expressed by myself and a couple others (iirc) that PC v. Brian was likely TvT, in which case Greeting appears the obvious culprit as someone who refrained from dirtying their hands with either wagon. If Titus wasn't going to start the Greeting wagon, I absolutely would have, and if not me then perhaps someone else like Davesaz. Scum!Titus would be able to read that and wait for it, but instead he chose to take the lead and I consider that towny. I would expect scum to act more like BlackStar did (third on, very sudden shift from elsewhere), which I've already mentioned in my SoD wallpost.

Why are you considering taking the lead as townie? I don’t see how that’s risky personally, risky would mean they could have gotten backlash from it but from where I stand greeting was a natural pivot point. Titus isn’t dumb either. I don’t see how waiting for it does anything for scum!titus that isn’t gained + more from them making a move themselves even if it didn’t go the way it did. The only risk I see is it going nowhere which is hardly a risk

[JacksonVirgo]

They’ve been non-committal, they’ve added incredibly little of actual input outside of attempting to step between their so-called tvt back and forth only to go back on that cuz it “went stale” followed by a blind/naked vote on yessiree with a promise for vca. It’s not a good look

yessiree is on the chopping block today titus voting that slot shows commitment instead of being non committal. I don't know what you mean when you say "attempting to step between so called tvt back and forth" can you clear that up. Are you talking about me and brian here where titus says it went stale? Doesn't that also show a type of commitment voting between the two wagons? This feels like a really easy push to make against titus. What are you reads currently can you make a list?

It doesn’t show commitment it shows conformity. They were explicitly getting between the two of you and brian calling you a TvT which is easy to say to appear like you’re doing something without actually doing anything of substance. She isn’t making a stance, and the stances she’s making doesnt hold weight hence the non-commitment. She’s making statements sure but is she doing more than just flapping her lips in the wind?

I’ll formulate my thoughts in a list soon, distracted watching a show. Remind me if I forget

[JacksonVirgo]

The issue with scum!Titus is that it's needlessly risky for them to start a wagon on a townflip (Greeting) when there was already clear sentiment expressed by myself and a couple others (iirc) that PC v. Brian was likely TvT, in which case Greeting appears the obvious culprit as someone who refrained from dirtying their hands with either wagon. If Titus wasn't going to start the Greeting wagon, I absolutely would have, and if not me then perhaps someone else like Davesaz. Scum!Titus would be able to read that and wait for it, but instead he chose to take the lead and I consider that towny. I would expect scum to act more like BlackStar did (third on, very sudden shift from elsewhere), which I've already mentioned in my SoD wallpost.

Why are you considering taking the lead as townie? I don’t see how that’s risky personally, risky would mean they could have gotten backlash from it but from where I stand greeting was a natural pivot point. Titus isn’t dumb either. I don’t see how waiting for it does anything for scum!titus that isn’t gained + more from them making a move themselves even if it didn’t go the way it did. The only risk I see is it going nowhere which is hardly a risk

I’m genuinely wanting you to explain why btw. It isn’t rhetorical

[JacksonVirgo]

The issue with scum!Titus is that it's needlessly risky for them to start a wagon on a townflip (Greeting) when there was already clear sentiment expressed by myself and a couple others (iirc) that PC v. Brian was likely TvT, in which case Greeting appears the obvious culprit as someone who refrained from dirtying their hands with either wagon. If Titus wasn't going to start the Greeting wagon, I absolutely would have, and if not me then perhaps someone else like Davesaz. Scum!Titus would be able to read that and wait for it, but instead he chose to take the lead and I consider that towny. I would expect scum to act more like BlackStar did (third on, very sudden shift from elsewhere), which I've already mentioned in my SoD wallpost.

Why are you considering taking the lead as townie? I don’t see how that’s risky personally, risky would mean they could have gotten backlash from it but from where I stand greeting was a natural pivot point. Titus isn’t dumb either. I don’t see how waiting for it does anything for scum!titus that isn’t gained + more from them making a move themselves even if it didn’t go the way it did. The only risk I see is it going nowhere which is hardly a risk

I think you're running yourself around in circles here by reading too deeply into Titus' actions. That's not a healthy thing to do when you've just joined the game and operate on bad memory.

A townie takes the lead with a Greeting wagon almost every time because Greeting's behavior is so obviously scummy in a TvT PC-Brian world that you don't have much fear pursuing it, which we clearly saw with how the final wagon panned out.

Could you not discount my words before responding to me? My “memory” is because of my focus on catching up, I can and always supplement it with discussion and checking back. I’m not reading too deeply into anything, I am creating discourse that isn’t just “yessiree wolf, lets get him”. I’m allowed to and I am going to voice my thoughts. I ask you don’t shut me down, thank you

Actually talking about what I asked, what stops scum from seeing scummy behaviour and pushing it?

[JacksonVirgo]

We don’t know PC vs Brian was TvT 100%. We are operating on this assumption but not facts.

Mhm, I just fell into assuming it was real cuz of my reads on them. Thanks for bringing this back up. Whoops

[JacksonVirgo]

We don’t know PC vs Brian was TvT 100%. We are operating on this assumption but not facts.

Greeting flipping town means I'm not fully operating on that either, I'm quite suspicious of PC at present. But I need to hammer into Jackson's head what was actually happening D1

Really? Just because I just replaced in doesnt mean I’m wrong, nor does it make you right. Drop this way of thinking. Discuss things, not speak AT people.

[JacksonVirgo]

I’m going to be honest, I’m here trying to open up discussion between people with my reads, asking you about yours and I’m getting your feelings of superiority thrown in my face instead. It’s a team game, I am town and this is a team game so talk WITH me. I have a different perspective than you, utilise it. Don’t throw it away because you disagree with me on the outcome. Does it matter who’s right? No, what matters is finding the fucking wolves and having a “see who can voice their thoughts the loudest” competition doesn’t benefit us. I’m honestly already sick of my thoughts being immediately discounted because of one flaw in how I work that has incredibly little to do with advancing the game. Town should work with town, not just push what you wanna push and shut down everything else. Jesus.

[JacksonVirgo]

Yessiree wolf - let’s get him

Omg, you’re right!!!!!

[JacksonVirgo]

Frustration vented, lets move on

[JacksonVirgo]

Are we getting a PC thunderdome two days in a row... hoo boy

Thunderdome would assume I think he’s a wolf, I don’t.

[JacksonVirgo]

A pagetop responding to a pagetop. Remarkable

[JacksonVirgo]

My readlist is a little vague of course and I’m working on smoothing out the details over time.

I think Kay is townie for having the same end conclusions that I did, I didn’t even realise it before so I was relatively null on her but this is giving me confidence.

PC / Flush are both Town. I believe the reasons are obvious enough to not repeat them but feel free to ask.

Titus is my post preferred elim, followed by Penguin. Yessiree I think is off my list for today for reasons I’ve explained but they’d be around that. I don’t think there’s much use in me pushing yessiree even if I did scumread him fully. I’d rather the town have multiple focuses while we have time.

I think Brian is townie, not based in actual posts moreso vibe which makes me want to iso them and see if I still agree with it after the catchup.

Hu Tao, RN and BlackStar I don’t have much on so they’re my priorities to look into right now.

[JacksonVirgo]

If I missed someone, they’re probably null too

[JacksonVirgo]

There’s one post from early yessiree that is stuck in my head, people regarded it as scummy but my initial thoughts was the opposite. Let me look back

[JacksonVirgo]

VOTE: Hu Tao

why so defensive

Holy projection

Doesn’t seem all that defensive. Are you projecting?

Looking back I caught a glimpse of this again which I actively disliked but ignored it for the moment. This feels like it was made specifically FOR reacting to Kay more than a mindmeld (which I know happens)

[JacksonVirgo]

Yessiree I think is off my list for today for reasons I’ve explained but they’d be around that. I don’t think there’s much use in me pushing yessiree even if I did scumread him fully. I’d rather the town have multiple focuses while we have time.

I’m not vibing as much with this but I guess we’ll see what happens.

That’s fine, its an unconventional take

[JacksonVirgo]

VOTE: Hu Tao

why so defensive

Holy projection

Doesn’t seem all that defensive. Are you projecting?

Looking back I caught a glimpse of this again which I actively disliked but ignored it for the moment. This feels like it was made specifically FOR reacting to Kay more than a mindmeld (which I know happens)

So you think Hu faked a mindmeld? Why does this make you feel better about yessiree and did it tell you anything about me?

Has nothing to do with yessiree I just saw it looking back. I saw the yessiree post and I didn’t really got much from it unfortunately but running across those posts got me feeling even worse about it than I originally did. So yeah, I think chances are it’s fake, and they saw a good way to deflect yessirees suspicion back onto him through you, a mindmeld making the deflection stronger as it’s multiple heads right?

And no, it doesn’t mean anything for you except you’re town if she’s wolf but I townread you anyway.

I’ll iso hu tao next, anybody has thoughts on them?

[JacksonVirgo]

VOTE: yessireee

Couldn't explain so they got defensive

StraightFlush fell for the bait. So he's probably scum.

I'm going to say Dave/StraightFlush/????

Why isn’t yessiree in your solve here?

[JacksonVirgo]

Straightflush/yessireee prob has at least 1 scum

You try and fix it but eh that’s weird

[JacksonVirgo]

Yessiree has been consistently in your solve since that moment, why did you omit him?

[JacksonVirgo]

Doesn’t seem all that defensive. Are you projecting?

StraightFlush fell for the bait. So he's probably scum.

I'm going to say Dave/StraightFlush/????

If dave and I are scummates, that was some pretty clumsy distancing from him earlier when he accused me of slipping for no reason

So you refute that you and Dave are partners but not that you’re scum. Noted!

GOT EM

i can't recall anything that user has said or done

Studies show that blueberries, avocados, leafy greens, fatty fish and eggs help improve memory. Also you could look at my ISO.

LMAO

I need to be someone’s butler. Can I pretend this is botc? Who wants to let me serve them so I don’t have to think about my vote lol I don’t know why I’m finding this particular game so difficult to get a good read on.

Who would you say you trust most right now. When in doubt sheep a townread?

Spoiler: rambling

(i'm actually going through a slight mini-crisis with the above advice right now. Cause obviously i'd prefer you stand behind your own take cause it makes you easier to read, so my gut doesn't want to suggest you just sheep someone, but my brain says suggesting you do this still gleans useful info for later while making it easier to engage now. Anyways this is a bit of a irrelevant ramble so i'm probs just going to spoiler this.

I trust no one.

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VOTE: yessiree

You might well have been cooking day 1

LET HER COOK!

Only interactions with Kay. While I also responded to the jokes this feels like she’s pocketing Kay specifically.

[JacksonVirgo]

Should have spoilered that

[JacksonVirgo]

daveslot probably scum

thanks for repping in

Want a cookie?

[JacksonVirgo]

daveslot probably scum

thanks for repping in

Want a cookie?

I don’t do sweet. Some sort of fish would be great though. Thanks!

I mean you are a little fishy, trying to find your herd?

[JacksonVirgo]

It was a mighty effort

[JacksonVirgo]

I’ll probably do blackstar next but busy busy

[JacksonVirgo]

Stop being busy and play mafia, like an adult!

By busy I mean I don’t want to, I’ll get to it later

[JacksonVirgo]

They’ve been non-committal, they’ve added incredibly little of actual input outside of attempting to step between their so-called tvt back and forth only to go back on that cuz it “went stale” followed by a blind/naked vote on yessiree with a promise for vca. It’s not a good look

yessiree is on the chopping block today titus voting that slot shows commitment instead of being non committal. I don't know what you mean when you say "attempting to step between so called tvt back and forth" can you clear that up. Are you talking about me and brian here where titus says it went stale? Doesn't that also show a type of commitment voting between the two wagons? This feels like a really easy push to make against titus. What are you reads currently can you make a list?

It doesn’t show commitment it shows conformity. They were explicitly getting between the two of you and brian calling you a TvT which is easy to say to appear like you’re doing something without actually doing anything of substance. She isn’t making a stance, and the stances she’s making doesnt hold weight hence the non-commitment. She’s making statements sure but is she doing more than just flapping her lips in the wind?

I’ll formulate my thoughts in a list soon, distracted watching a show. Remind me if I forget

I think you might be moving the goalposts a bit why does scum!titus call us tvt their? I think they might have been the first one to do so as well almost sort of dispelling the illusion that me or brian are definitely scum in other peoples minds. wouldn't scum want me and brian to keep going at eachother?

Where did they actively push to stop it?

[JacksonVirgo]

Where did they actively push to stop it?

If they pushed to stop it would that make them town in your eyes? because greeting said the same thing but also didn't push to stop it. someones failure to act or unwillingness to act on something doesn't tell you their alignment it just tells you more about their playstyle. titus seems like a laid back person to me. I don't see town or scum titus stopping the argument between me and brian.

Singular arguments mean very little, as there’s almost always room for error one way or another. It’s the combination of many that’s hard to ignore. I think that them pushing it would show they weren’t just running their mouth. I don’t believe they were doing anything but trying to get some credit for not pushing either, and to appear to be doing something but in actuality doing extremely little. It very much matters, in fact words vs actions is INCREDIBLY important.

[JacksonVirgo]

Could I pick your brain about hu tao?

[JacksonVirgo]

Where did they actively push to stop it?

If they pushed to stop it would that make them town in your eyes? because greeting said the same thing but also didn't push to stop it. someones failure to act or unwillingness to act on something doesn't tell you their alignment it just tells you more about their playstyle. titus seems like a laid back person to me. I don't see town or scum titus stopping the argument between me and brian.

Singular arguments mean very little, as there’s almost always room for error one way or another. It’s the combination of many that’s hard to ignore. I think that them pushing it would show they weren’t just running their mouth. I don’t believe they were doing anything but trying to get some credit for not pushing either, and to appear to be doing something but in actuality doing extremely little. It very much matters, in fact words vs actions is INCREDIBLY important.

yessiree basically called me a hider and then proceeded to vote me. the progression doesn't make any sense.

Fair point. I’m fine with yessiree. Even if he is, I’m still going to focus on the wolves other than him. I’m not much use otherwise

[JacksonVirgo]

They’ve been non-committal, they’ve added incredibly little of actual input outside of attempting to step between their so-called tvt back and forth only to go back on that cuz it “went stale” followed by a blind/naked vote on yessiree with a promise for vca. It’s not a good look

My pronoun is she/her.

You've played with me here. The abstraction feels like you're trying to create an abstraction as it is easier to deal with.

Ah sorry, my brain defaults to neutrals I’ll work on this better.

What am I abstracting? It’s what you’re doing, I’m describing.

[JacksonVirgo]

What generic terms

[JacksonVirgo]

Correct me

[JacksonVirgo]

Correct me

You used they/them instead of she/her. They them as a generic which makes me look less unique more abstract.

Excuse me, what? I apologise for misgendering but that has nothing to do with the game.

[JacksonVirgo]

They’ve been non-committal, they’ve added incredibly little of actual input outside of attempting to step between their so-called tvt back and forth only to go back on that cuz it “went stale” followed by a blind/naked vote on yessiree with a promise for vca. It’s not a good look

My pronoun is she/her.

You've played with me here. The abstraction feels like you're trying to create an abstraction as it is easier to deal with.

Ah sorry, my brain defaults to neutrals I’ll work on this better.

What am I abstracting? It’s what you’re doing, I’m describing.

Since I misunderstood you talking about content, this is hopefully obvious that it is not referring to calling you they/them.

[JacksonVirgo]

Titus is probably town. JV what are your thoughts on Yessiree?

… I have been pretty clear about them I feel

[JacksonVirgo]

VOTE: Titus

I'm not a huge fan of Titus' OMGUS on the recent page. I'm also not a huge fan of StraightFlush's townread on Titus and have slight concerns they could be linked.

I don’t like Straights read on Titus either, but I am not sure the omgus means anything, can you elaborate as to why you’re not a fan of it?

[JacksonVirgo]

I’m just gonna ignore everybody flopping their reads everywhere without actually arguing them

[JacksonVirgo]

I want to pivot to Hu Tao, it’s tempting

[JacksonVirgo]

I want to pivot to Hu Tao, it’s tempting

He doesn’t want a competing pocket, obviously. Typical scum move.

Damn, you’re onto me

[JacksonVirgo]

*sweats profusely*

[JacksonVirgo]

yessiree not gaining any steam and not posting just makes me think we're on the right path

You can also argue the opposite

[JacksonVirgo]

Wasn’t me I swear, my dog ate my homework!

[JacksonVirgo]

Flush wagon is garbage

[JacksonVirgo]

One note on that is that I really, really think you should stop treating vanilla checks as clears. If you do, you basically entrust the winner of the game to "luck" by whether a goon or a VT gets "cleared". I know that you got lucky in the past and was checked as vanilla when you were a VT but even in Large Normal 246, there was a goon alive when that happened and the confirmed vanilla was not a confirmed green check.

To be fair, in most worlds Enchant would have been Town just based of site meta and how it treats balance here. Triple goon with three ungated PRs (albeit weak) and then a FN/UB. The assumption that there has to be at least one wolf PR is generally a pretty solid one imo. I still feel that logic is correct even if this game it was wrong, this setup was designed in a way that it countered general site meta/balance assumptions and for a Normal that's probably not

ideal

but it was a fun setup regardless except for that. In my opinion, I don't wanna shit on the setup (gypyx, u hella fine)

[JacksonVirgo]

personally i think it's Good Actually if setups fuck with assumptions like that

I agree, but not for a normal

[JacksonVirgo]

People shouldn't rely on mech like this (ketchup would have an aneurysm here) yes, bit the fact it goes against the grain of

normalcy

goes against what I thought this queue was for, at least outside of the complex category

[JacksonVirgo]

personally i think it's Good Actually if setups fuck with assumptions like that

mechanical assumptions like that are townplay crutches and towns should be punished for overly relying on them over dayplay

I agree with this

Please kill me before elo from now on!

Though hun, I recommend at the very least waiting for all people to post in ELO and abandon all assumptions you've made, reassess why you're alive in ELO and what that means for who the final wolf is

[JacksonVirgo]

I was worried that if Brian voted me when I wasn’t around, Enchant would hammer before I could respond. I was being paranoid. I trust no one. Ahhh I don’t like that position.

You had to kill him before he spoke, just like someone else we know of

[JacksonVirgo]

did jackson town read you

Why even ask this btw?