Martyr Mafia - Game Over

[zwetschenwasser]

Yes! You are ignoring my case, which adds to my case, you didn't even try to understand what my posts meant, all you did was ask to explain when you could have figured out stuff, and call concise posting a case against me.

[Jahudo]

I have this stupid paper do for the Model UN thing they tricked me into joining for.

Are you switzerland, because you sure aren't taking a side!

I agree with EA. Zakeri still hasn't explained his gambit after a dozen pages or so. I get the feeling he likes to lurk.

[Jebus]

Yes! You are ignoring my case, which adds to my case, you didn't even try to understand what my posts meant, all you did was ask to explain when you could have figured out stuff, and call concise posting a case against me.

I could have figured stuff out, but if I did that, I wouldn't necessarily have gotten the right answer. You know what you meant, I don't.

And where did I ignore your case?

[zwetschenwasser]

By asking who was on my scumlist.

[Jebus]

Wait, what?

And answer that please.

[zwetschenwasser]

Answer what?

[X]

Jebus is making a mountain out of a molehill.

And Double A, we could conclude things even more easily if you explained your thoughts in more detail.

[mask man]

new scumlist:
almost everybody >_>

No really, I dare everyone to just glance at the last page, I smell rotten fish is so many pockets!

[Zakeri]

Okay, I've caught up to where I said I was going to get caught up about a week ago. The following information is that old.

The people I don't particularly like are as follows in order of Name, Reasons I don't like them, and Examples I've taken note of:

MaskMan:

hinting at alternative goals, seems to not focus on hitting god, Pro-cult when there's no need to be.

I would rather assume that I will be converted then attempt to lynch god.

zwetschenwasser, srsly.
I was going to keep my vote on jebus, but...

!vote zwetschenwasser

Also, worst case is D2 we have 10:9 people not willing verses willing to lynch god.
best case it like, nobody get's recruited and someone dies. highly unlikely; in fact I think agnostics are totally screwed from the inside out all the way to mars stretched out can stabbed to death with a +5 cursed great sword of slinky >_>

Bloodmoney:

Contradictive, Distant, uses personal attacks

unvote, vote: zakeri

Even though I don't see how the initial comment by Jebus was necessary, I don't see how he could've interpreted mm's line as a Nietzsche-slip, and even if he did, I don't see why he would openly fish for something like that.

...

No, I know that's what you meant. Read that post again. I'm saying I don't see how Jebus would've misinterpreted that post that much, when it's completely obvious it wasn't a Nietzsche-slip. Nevertheless, this is not much of a point, since I don't see accrediting stupidity to someone a scumtell. Jebus and populartajo's opportunistic votes are noted, in that order.

unvote, vote: Jebus

Erratus Apathos: Note that Jebus and PT both explicitly agreed with Blood's reasoning when voting Zakeri, so Blood attacking their votes is just hypocritical. It's like he's trying to scramble out of a botched distancing attempt.

ahahahahahaha

if your definition of contribution is "being vanilla town sucks. I agree with that guy", then I advise you to go to another site after this game, because HELLO we play this game through analysis and you're not doing a brilliant job right now. The very least you can do is work your heart out for us bringing evidence to the table while you're here.

ahahahaha

nice defense of your cult buddy there, SP. I attacked zach for his lack of info exactly because he didn't have any argument to attack. Or do you mean the post I quoted in my last post? Because all his argument there consists of is "hey look I contributed just as much as you did" which is, plain and clear, FALSE.


SP, where did I get personal? You don't want me getting personal.

Qwints:

Opportunistic

Jahudo: Notice how the scum drops a serious vote for a joke one when pressure is applied to him.

unvote
Vote: Zakeri

Good point Jahudo. Why the vote for DGB zakeri?

vote: zakeri

zwetschenwasser:

One liner, adds nothing, lurky

Anyone not mentioned here, I either do like, or haven't noticed anything worth c/ping.

I personally dislike the Personal attacks and the way bloodmoney contradicts himself so far. I haven't caught up to the last page, yet, so I can't comment on what's going on now.

[ortolan]

I don't buy ortolan's and qwints votes on Jebus. I don't like zwet's either. DGB's vote on Jebus is the only one that seems to have an actual reason behind it, but I don't buy it. If Jebus is being bussed, then he won't be God. Besides, the cult leaders don't know each other. God doesn't know the recruits either. And I'm assuming that the recruits don't know God. Whatever his role, him being bussed can't be right.

Wow, that's four people whose votes on Jebus you "don't buy", and you haven't really argued why. You sure he's not your leader/deity? You've just said why you don't think he's being bused, that's all well and good, I myself said God wouldn't be bused. But you just ignore the possibility he is being voted for by agnostics?

What do others think of the Jebus wagon?

[quote="Bloodmoney (359)

All of the lurkers are

either

(scum)

or

(playing towards an expected wincon of recruited cult): Erratus Apathos, Indigo Heron, Double A, ortolan, qwints. Quite probably more.

Is this a slip? You seem to think I am playing for future recruitment (i.e. playing pro-scum) while knowing that I am not presently scum.

Please note the formatting in the initial quote. You either don't read what you quote, or you are opting for blatant misrepping instead of actual helpful contribution. Feel free to tell me if it's the latter.[/quote]

Well, you're right, I did misread it, it must have been in an attempt to give a coherent/charitable interpretation of what you said. So you're calling me a lurker? Do you have any proof of this? Why are lurkers more likely to be scum than those participating in the game, it's no different to any other game where lurking is almost always a null-tell? So I disagree with two aspects of your argument- firstly I don't think I've posted little enough to warrant being classed a lurker, secondly I don't see why not posting as much as others is scummy anyhow- it's probably a mistake of mine to join so many large games which eat time like no other (which might have the effect of limiting my posting ability), but I don't see it raising the probability of me being scum. I will have to read over to see if those people you nominated as lurkers actually are as well, because I just don't see it in my case.

[mask man]

MaskMan:

--->'hinting at alternative goals,'<---(o rly) seems to not focus on hitting god

but you just said you re-read >_>

, Pro-cult when there's no need to be.

Where?

I would rather assume that I will be converted then attempt to lynch god.

^We went over this crap before and it is and has been history.

zwetschenwasser, srsly.
I was going to keep my vote on jebus, but...

!vote zwetschenwasser

Explain importance?

Also, worst case is D2 we have 10:9 people not willing verses willing to lynch god.
best case it like, nobody get's recruited and someone dies. highly unlikely; in fact I think agnostics are totally screwed from the inside out all the way to mars stretched out can stabbed to death with a +5 cursed great sword of slinky >_>

Soz, I didn't know listing info that was important was such a scum tell.
I really don't understand why this quote is here.

[ting =)]

Wow, that's four people whose votes on Jebus you "don't buy", and you haven't really argued why.

You sure he's not your leader/deity? You've just said why you don't think he's being bused, that's all well and good, I myself said God wouldn't be bused.

But you just ignore the possibility he is being voted for by agnostics?

Four people: ortolan, qwints, zwet, dgb.

Ortolan, qwints, zwet - I mentioned this before already. All your reasons are essentially that you don't like the way he reacted to zwet's 'I'm god' claim. Your case is essentially a variation of the too townie fallacy. I've said already why I don't buy it. There wasn't any point in me repeating it in that post, hence why I only mentioned why I don't buy DGBs reason in that post.

I ignored that how? I mentioned that I don't like your votes (I don't think they're good reasons for voting), not that I thought you were scummy for it. There's a difference. I haven't called any of the people on his wagon scum, all I've done is said that I don't like the wagon. Care to show me where I ignore that you could be agnostics?

[Jebus]

Answer what?

Who is on your scumlist.

[pacman281292]

Pacman, could you put that quote in context? I can't find the post where I said that. Why are you repeating your excuse of "being confused" over and over again? All you have to do is read the first post of the game. You are now more than ever, number 2 on my scum list.

I'm not confused about the structure; I'm confused about how to go on here. And no, reading the 1st post of the game won't help me. I KNOW the setup.
[sarcasm]You are now more than ever, number 1 on my scum list. Yeah; there is scum on this game.[/sarcasm]

[DrippingGoofball]

I am ready to declare Zekari town.

[zwetschenwasser]

Jebus, are you freaking kidding me? You know who's on my scumlist, and you keep pretending you don't. Zakeri apparently missed my long post, and DGB, you make no sense.

[Bloodmoney]

Jebus, are you freaking kidding me? You know who's on my scumlist, and you keep pretending you don't.

Well, you could, you know, try to be actually helpful and reiterate.

pacman, you could try posting something helpful too.

Well, you're right, I did misread it, it must have been in an attempt to give a coherent/charitable interpretation of what you said. So you're calling me a lurker? Do you have any proof of this? Why are lurkers more likely to be scum than those participating in the game, it's no different to any other game where lurking is almost always a null-tell? So I disagree with two aspects of your argument- firstly I don't think I've posted little enough to warrant being classed a lurker, secondly I don't see why not posting as much as others is scummy anyhow- it's probably a mistake of mine to join so many large games which eat time like no other (which might have the effect of limiting my posting ability), but I don't see it raising the probability of me being scum. I will have to read over to see if those people you nominated as lurkers actually are as well, because I just don't see it in my case.

lurking is much more anti-town (agnostic) in this game, because we very likely won't have majority by tomorrow. I want to do what I can Day 1, before the power of lynching is wrested from my hands. Cult/god need only to stall and/or mislynch today, and Nietzsche has a high possibility of misfiring too; that's why I suspect all lurkers of being scum or expecting to become one.

[zwetschenwasser]

MY SCUMLIST IS JEBUS! THE END! Sheesh!

[Jahudo]

I'm confused about how to go on here.

Then just God-hunt. Do you think cult leaders are bussing/distancing or ignoring God? Do you think God is vocal or lurking? State a theory and see who matches that description.

Because right now I'm more than willing to believe a rational God would stay under the radar unless prompted to speak or they can safely latch on to a discussion that does not call too much attention to them. I think cult leaders will not bus their god but safely distance when the spotlight is on someone else making a distraction. So Zakeri and pacman are a few people that fit my idea of God.

[zwetschenwasser]

Exachitakely. God wants to be left alone, but once he gets seen as suspicious, he'll take the path of least resistance. It seems that Jebus, by following early suspicions of me, is a good God candidate.

[Jebus]

MY SCUMLIST IS JEBUS! THE END! Sheesh!

Really? I expected a list, not one name.

lurking is much more anti-town (agnostic) in this game

lolumwot?

anti-town=agnostic? huh?

[Bloodmoney]

lolumwot?

anti-town=agnostic? huh?

Haha, no. town=agnostic. I meant to say that town can be substituted with agnostic.

[Jebus]

Oh, I see. *Jebus facepalm*

Post I still want a response to. - This goes for everyone, I'm not questioning just zwet here.

[zwetschenwasser]

You're the one I find scummy.

[DrippingGoofball]

Exachitakely. God wants to be left alone, but once he gets seen as suspicious, he'll take the path of least resistance. It seems that Jebus, by following early suspicions of me, is a good God candidate.

Might he claim god on page 2?