Mini 746: Speed Dating - I've Had The Time Of My Life (Over)
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Listing "females" as 1-6, and "males" from 7-12...
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Right, I think it would be a good idea to get cracking. We can throw around random votes forever, but Zwet seems to be getting some heat - so let's take a look at what's happened.
This was brought up by Caboose who said that zwet should know the town win condition if they are Pro-Town. However, I'm not really sure that this is a tell. It took me a few minutes to get my head wrapped round who's scum and who isn't, and what we have to do to win the game.zwet (I'm not typing out the full name wrote:I don't even understand who's scum and who's not.
Also, surely if he was scum, he'd understand that the scum are the married people 'cos he's one of them?
Still, Caboose earns a point in my book for having the first go at scumhunting.
May be random, which is fine, but it seems a little odd that zwet already had 2 votes when this happened. Don't really know what to make of this, if indeed there is anything to make.MonkeyMan wrote:Vote: Zwet
cause we gotta keep the strippers around
This is going to be the very tricky thing about this game - townies will be torn between defending their partner to save themselves, and knowing that they will lose if they are lynched but wanting to help the town anyway.EGL wrote:So that's three votes to Zwet now? Obviously I'm not voting for Zwet today since I'm at her table, although I do think Caboose has a point about the win condition.
The bit about the 'Caboose has a point' seems kind of non-committal. EGL, do you think that the win condition point is actually a scumtell, or just a mistake?-
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I think the penguin that controls you might've glitched.BSG wrote:So first of, what confuses you about the wincon Zwet?
And I just love ( ), Molestar's defence of Zwet in post 47. Add that you are trying to play both sides of Zwet - Caboose and that you point something out which has no meaning yet, deserves you aVote Molestargazer
Could you please quote and explain what's scummy about my defence of zwet? I think that someone being confused about their role PM doesn't necessarily mean they're scum.
Why not play both sides? I'm saying I see their points of view, but I don't think it means zwet is scummy yet.
I'm pointing out what I see. No more. I don't see how that's scummy.-
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For now, I'm going to ignore the Win Condition discussion - everything that needs to be said has been said, I wouldn't have been able to add to it. If someone wants me to, I will.
But now onto the main... bit.
I understand your point - and indeed I'll be learning from this and allowing people to present their own defence before I butt in in future - but I was simply pointing out a potential flaw in the attacking argument.BSG wrote:You gave him a way out. By saying who the scum are and by saying that you were confused as well, before Zwet could respond to Caboose ('Eh???' does not count). It's allowed to defence, but do so after said player has responded, besides 'Eh???'. Besides, the mod has said that there could be more parties in this game, so the defence of yours doesn't have to be the case.
I try not to play fiercely. I don't condemn / attack people unnecessarily. I'll state a problem, and allow them to respond.BSG wrote:Playing both sides:
It is the tone when I read it that bothers me. You don't think it's a scum tell. If this is true, I would expect a fierce tone, but I don't get that from that part. You just state your opinion, and you give the attacker a golden star as he's having the first go at scumhunting...
As for the 'gold star', I don't see the problem. The game needed to move on and people needed to start scumhunting, I was just acknowledging that.
Guilty.BSG wrote:Pointing out:
You've got my point. You point something out, and that's it. You point something out, which might not even be relevant.
However...
There's no evidence I can give for this, but I can assure that that was not my intention when filling. I was just typing out what I saw, and thought might be worth a mention at the time.BSG wrote:This gives the impression that you actually do something, while actually doing nothing. And that's scummy. What you pointed out, is just filling.
Don't get this. Could you explain?Zwet wrote:I have negative clue.My Wiki Page|My Last.FM|My Steam
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Right. A lot of random babble has gone on with the mod since I last posted, so I'm going to have a go at sifting through the chatter and see if there's anything in there worth a mention.
I'll start from the top of Page 4.
That's fair enough.EGL wrote:At the time I felt it may have been somewhat of a scumtell. After reading other points people put forward, such as he'd be able to tell who the scum is if he was one of them, it could either be just a mistake or a neutral tell in the worst scenario. Of course, the game made even said analyzing win conditions wouldn't help, so honestly I think that theory should be thrown out the window.
Could you please give us some examples of where that's happened?EGL wrote:I'm feeling right now like Caboose and a few others are trying to manipulate the situation with Zwet,
See above.zwet wrote:Caboose is definitely twisting my words, that's for sure.
This post seems very much like zwet is just jumping on the good idea and using it to make Caboose look scummy. I can't vote without evidence.
FoS: zwet
OK. Why?Kmd wrote:Oh, and Vote Jebus
Not random.
BSG wrote:As long as nobody finds out what's happening, I will have my daily dose of penguin love
What?zwet wrote:Are you claiming scum?
Woah!The Countess wrote:I think he's claiming penguin fetish.
Vote: Jebus Not random.
Now either this is a joke copy of the above vote, they both share the reason for voting, or they're collaborating as scum. Since we don't know the reasonings, I'll have to assume the third one. Please explain your votes, both of you.
So do something about it - put some pressure on, ask them for their reasonings. Is that not what this is all about?roffman wrote:but for the scum hunting on page 5 being voting people who haven't actually posted just screams laziness.
Pretty much summarising this post. I don't see a problem with that vote right now.Caboose wrote:Show me where I did this.
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Second vote on Jebus looks opportunistic.
You have got to be kidding me. Since we're a long way from lynch yet, and I want to put some pressure on..The Countess wrote:unvote, Vote: Caboose
Second vote on The Countess looks opportunistic.
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Please explain:
- The reasonings for your vote on Jebus, with examples.
- Why you decided to OMGUS Caboose.
Just having a mysterious name doesn't make you invulnerable. You're looking incredibly scummy right now.
In case you missed it, I'd like Kmd to explain his vote on Jebus also.-
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Point taken. But would it not be better to...
Mod: Requesting a prod on Jebus.
Sorry, your majesty, but it's not going to work like that. Since you're here, in this speed-dating place, I'll be treating you like every other player / romance-seeker.The Countess wrote:Molestargazer, it seems like you don't really understand who I am. I am royalty. I expect you afford me the worship I deserve. My votes need not be questioned, nor am I to be voted for.
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I don't like this argument.EGL wrote:Can't we wait to lynch Zwet until Zwet is at a table with another married person though? Or at least at a table with someone who doesn't have a PhD?
We have to lynch scum. Which means that we have to lynch whoever is at the scum's table.
Any one of us could come up with an argument like yours (even scum) as to why they shouldn't be lynched -I always win as town, trust me, orI have a Psychology degree, whatever. In my opinion, that is completely irrelevant. It smacks as an attempt to save your own life, and ignoring the main issue here - lynching someone who could very well be scum, and helping the town (Or in this case, the honest single people looking for a date!).
Now, the 'mrs' thing is a very difficult situation. It could be an honest mistake, as zwet has claimed. Or it could be a scum slip-up. Whilst this means I don't think we should lynch based on this evidence alone, it does go a way towards it.
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True.EGL wrote:Also, your argument about lynching whomever is at the scum's table fails in cases of pro-town power roles.
You're saying you have a pro-town powerrole?
True. But we have to lynch people some time. We have to make sacrifices to win this game - I think it's incredibly unlikely that we'll lynch perfectly when both scum are at the same table, and IMO it would be foolish to try.EGL wrote:Sorry but not arguing against having yourself lynched in the process goes against your win condition no matter who you are, you know?
If I think someone's scum, I'll try and get them lynched.
Can you at least see where I'm coming from?Caboose wrote:*facepalm*
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*Facepalm*
Yeah, I really did fail there.
If this is true, then the Zwet lynch should be halted. I do worry that not lynching today will let zwet slip off the hook - but then, I suppose that's what this game is all about.
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Well, that's a very strange turn of events. Could be potentially useful.
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So what does Kmd's attempt at a hammer tell us about his alignment? Unfortunately for me, I'm seeing both sides.
1. It could have been the attempt of a townie to hammer someone he thought was scum without giving them the pass to move on to Day 2, where he may be forgotten or overlooked in finding more scum.
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2. It could have been the attempt of a scum to hammer a townie with 'legitimate reasons' for doing so, thus ending the day and removing all of our allotted time for discussion.
If it weren't for zwet's slip which certainly puts him on the track for being scum, I'd be saying #2. But right now, I'd say it's the first. But, obviously, so secure this, we have to think about zwet's alignment.
So now we're back in the position of whether or not to give Zwet a push out of the door for his slip, or to leave him until tomorrow where he may be coupled with a less powerful pro-town role, if EGL's claim is to be believed.
This leads us to his 'bah' post in 'twilight'.
Now, (no offense meant here) but the impression that I've been getting of zwet so far this game is that he's a little slow when it comes to keeping up with things:zwet wrote:Wow. You all are idiots. I wasn't scum. I made an honest mistake about my prefix, and you lynch me. Sheesh. I hope EGL was unmarried, so I can satisfy my win condition of leaving with an unmarried person. KMD is screaming scum. Go town!
(Note he caught flak for this post too)Zwet, post 29 wrote: don't even understand who's scum and who's not.Zwet, post 49 wrote:Actually, the win conditions confuse me.Zwet, post 81 wrote:This is hurting my head...
(Here it was fairly obvious, and had been confirmed by Kmd and myself in posts 119 and 120, that the Jebus votes were due to inactivity, therefore if he returns, the votes would be lifted)Zwet, post 126 wrote:Backing off before the pressure starts, eh?
This would fit with his slip-up of Mrs, and would lead me to believe that if Kmd said that he had hammered Zwet, zwet would go right ahead and post a bah post without even double-checking whether or not he was lynched - which leads me to think that Zwet is actually pro-town, and the 'twilight' post was genuine.
Therefore, I would lean towards Kmd being scum right now (See #2 at the top of this post), despite some of zwet's less-than-pro-town behaviour that we've seen so far.
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I can't be 100% sure of either of those, of course.BSG wrote:Still liking my Zwet vote.
Also, Mole is starting to get my attention again. Especially after his 'I think W is town, therefore I think Y is scum' comment.
But I'm farily sure that Zwet is town, therefore I think that Kmd's action action means he is more likely to be scum, in my eyes.-
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If I know I've been lynched, or I'm dead, my twilight posts will generally be neutral, or pro-faction in a way that would not endanger my team (In the case of scum). I can't remember what I've done in the past, but that's what I think I'd be doing. Granted, each to their own.roffman wrote:Your basing your assumption of KMD on a post Zwet made in twilight. I don't know about you, but my twilight posts are always pro-town, in case of mayor's, reviver's, or mistakes. There is also the fact that lynching someone in this case is a justifiable hammer, though not neccesarily a smart one. Granted, my suspicions of zwet have gone down, but my suspicions of KMD have not really changed.
Precisely. My point is that scum could get away with that hammer which could have cost the town.roffman wrote:justifiable hammer, though not neccesarily a smart one.
I disagree. That hammer vote ends the day early, which gives us less time for discussion, therefore less time to find the scum. We (Or at least, I) were by no means certain of zwet's alignment, AND dropping the hammer vote, in all likelyhood, would kill our doctor.Caboose wrote:Dropping the hammer vote isNOTa scumtell.FoS: molefor acting like it is
Not all hammers are scumtells. I think this one is.
If scum were able to get away with it - here, I think they would, because of the slip being a 'legit reason' - I think they would, for the reasons above.Caboose wrote:If anything, I would expect scum to jump on the wagon early in order to leave the hammering to town.-
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In an attempt to get this game moving again, I'll make a quick post.
I will admit that some of zwet's more recent posts have almost made me regret defending him. However, I stand by my point that I think his twilight post was genuine, and I believe he is town. Whilst this doesn't confirm that Kmd's hammer was a scummy one, I think it's quite likely.
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Ah, OK. Let's find out.
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Translated...Kmd4390 wrote:-Backwards writing-
I'll post my thoughts on this in a minute.Kmd Speaking the right way round. wrote:It's not great, but it's more than you can pull up for a "reasons Zwet is town" case.
- Claimed jester. Pointless...
- Admitted to being scum by nameclaiming a married prefix.
- Adds next to nothing to the game. (Read his post history. Seriously.)
- Claimed to not understand the game.
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How odd.Anyway.
This is true. My gut tells me that zwet is town, but he really hasn't been acting like it.Kmd wrote:It's not great, but it's more than you can pull up for a "reasons Zwet is town" case.
I believe the Jester claim could just been one of those one-liners. But yes, either way, useless, and it isn't behaviour I'd describe as pro-town.Kmd wrote:- Claimed jester. Pointless...
- Posts useless one-liners.
This boils down to either it being a mistake or it not, and I'd say the first option. However, I do see why people would disagree with me.Kmd wrote:- Admitted to being scum by nameclaiming a married prefix.
It is possible to be confused by the game, and indeed it is a tricky setup. I'm still of the opinion that he's just a bit slow with this kind of thing.Kmd wrote:- Claimed to not understand the game.
Yeah.Kmd wrote:- Adds next to nothing to the game. (Read his post history. Seriously.)
What can I say?
The case against Zwet is fairly strong, especially for Day 1. As I said earlier, my gut feeling is that he's pro-town, but yet there's barely any evidence to back that up - and certainly nothing as solid as the evidence against him. This puts me in quite a difficult situation.
I won't be voting for him - yet - and my vote on Kmd stands for now, with a lack of anyone else who's caught my eye as looking scummy.-
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Kmd - Do you think that zwet is a worthwhile lynch for today, and do you honestly think he is scummy enough to risk lynching our doc to do so today?My Wiki Page|My Last.FM|My Steam
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I can't be certain, but I'm leaning towards the claim being genuine.BSG wrote:Mole, do you think that EGL is the doc. And if so why?
I would've said otherwise had the claim been unnecessary - but since Zwet was at L-2, and would almost certainly had gained more votes from the "Mrs." saga, I think that if I were him I would've claimed at the same time as well - and doing so certainly halted the lynch which could have ended our D1 prematurely and possibly killed our doc.
The lack of a counter-claim also leads me to think it's genuine. If a real doc had counter-claimed, he certainly may have been NKed, but we would have lynched a scum member in the process. Since the doc would (Probably - not sure how nights work) not have left with someone married, then he wouldn't automatically lose - and if we won, then so would he. So I think that'd be a worthwhile trade-off.
Of course, we can't discount the idea that it could be a scum ruse - but for now, I don't think it's worth the risk lynching him.My Wiki Page|My Last.FM|My Steam
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I've had a thought niggling away at me for a while. This might be complete crap, if it is, someone please correct me.
What if there ARE no nightkills?
Max has told us that after a day, there will be a party stage, an equivalent of a night. Except we are still active and can talk. This implies that our characters and awake and know what we're doing, hence scum wouldn't be able to 'kill' us, or make us leave, whatever.
If there is a nightkill, that means one person is left on his own on his table the next day. Considering this is speed dating, it doesn't seem to make sense.
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Zwet. In the back of my mind, I still doubt you're scum, but every time you post, I feel more and more as though it's worth lynching you:
a) To find out about EGL, and perhaps confirm what Kmd has said (Or otherwise)
b) So the we can be rid of you and we can move on with finding (more) scum.
c) Hell, you might actually BE scum.
With your evident experience with strippers, I'll have to agree with that one.Caboose wrote:Not very many cops I know have PhDs. I also don't know of many stripers with PhDs, either.
It is possible for cops to have PhDs. Y'know, perhaps in criminology or something. But the obvious answer is Doc, and I think that's the most likely role EGL was claiming.
roffman wrote:Just to let you know, I personally do know a cop and a stripper with PH:D's, but I hang with crazy uni students, so I don't think that's valid
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I'm starting to feel less and less like you're scum.
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I'd be happy for this to happen. We can't wait around forever for a replacement, but if there's one in the pipeline, I'd be happy for him (or her) to give their input.BSG wrote:I still prefer Zwet as lynch, but I would like to hear first from EGL's replacement. He 'claimed' a powerrole, and should have his chance to defend himself. His death could have some influence how the game will end.
Any particular reason why it strikes you as odd? Zwet I'm happy to lynch. EGL's claim can't be trusted any more Kmd's. Through lynching EGL, we can find if he was telling the truth or not.BSG wrote:As for Mole, his reasons for voting Zwet are troubling me. He wants to see, through a lynch, who of EGL and KMD is telling the truth. He's just trusting one player who says he has info that EGL can't be a doc based upon his role PM. This faith in KMD, strikes me as odd.
- If he was, it's a doc, we put our suspicion onto Kmd, who gives us the info - or is scum. Either way, we get more information.
- If he isn't the doc, chances are he's scum. That's good.
I assure you that isn't the case.BSG wrote:Also, his second reason for voting Zwet sounds like a policy reason. I find policy reasons suspicious.
As much as I would like to believe Zwet is town, I think we would do much better with him out the way so we can put our suspicions and attention onto others. Not to mention the fact that he might just be scum anyway.
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I noticed earlier in the party, Caboose still claimed that Jebus was scum. Could you give us a case against him?
Personally, I don't think Kmd is scum now. He's contributed a lot, and the few incidents I thought may be scummy have now been explained or are negligable. Roffman, could you explain why he was 2nd on your list? You may have posted it before, but just to refresh my memory and have everything in one place.My Wiki Page|My Last.FM|My Steam
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EGL was inactive, and being replaced. Yes, we could have waited around - but with deadline steadily approaching, and the inevitable delay to the lynch that a replacement would bring, I'm not too bothered about that.Nightfall wrote: I don't see how it would have hurt to ask EGL to confirm his role with the mod
I don't remember saying that I believed fully that EGL's doc claim was false. In fact, I believe I said it could swing either way.Nightfall wrote:especially since you/KMD already made it clear that you didn't think he was what he was claiming to be.
Caboose - your case against Jebus is quite a good one. The table thing is a bit of a ballache in this case, but for now, let's wait and see what he has to say in his defence.
If he were scum, then he would know. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that's what Caboose was getting at.Nightfall wrote:Caboose, Although I agree with almost all of your post, I don't think that we can say for certain regarding the first point that Jebus "knew" Zwets would turn out to be town.My Wiki Page|My Last.FM|My Steam
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Are you suggesting that people who weren't on the wagon should be discounted? Sounds like it, and that's not on.MonkeyMan wrote:I am not scum. You should be looking at the people who were in on the double townie lynch yesterday.
Yeah, sure, I'll follow your lead without any evidence or suspcisions posted whatsoever!BSG wrote:This game is way too easy. Caboose and Monkey are the scum so can we wait with lynching them until they are paired together?
(If you needed to read this to realise that was sarcasm... *sigh*)
Could you please explain what this is? Can't find it on the wiki.Caboose wrote:chainsaw defense
Fixed.Caboose wrote:So, I'll try to cross out what I really mean to make it seem a bit nicer.
They will win only if all the married people leave the game now, I guess. Might be wrong (As I have been before).Jebus wrote:Thought - because Zwet and EGL left without a married person in the group, haven't they succeeded in their win condition? Or am I reading it wrong?
I hope you're not trying to do what EGL did. Chances are priest is just flavour, and if it isn't, I don't see why you would claim like that now.Jebus wrote:By the way, I'm a priest. Does this help quell your already weak case?
Is there something in yours and the countess' role PM that says you should never explain anything or something?The Count wrote:Alas, the Caboose is the scum! I stand beside you, BSG, 100%. I understand completely.
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If he had come out with the information, then I think we would have assumed EGL's was flavour - but still lynched zwet for being scummy anyway. So... yes and no.roffman wrote:This post just annoys me. He is trying to get a potential scum lynched, however, he won't post any actual reasons for it. He has admitted his role is just for flavor, yet he denied to tell us this yesterday when the knowledge might have actually stopped us lynching a potential doc.
The mod says it's pointless, which means it is, which means it shouldn't form part of a case against someone. So I'm going to discount that. Same to what Monkey said.roffman wrote:I also know the mod said that analysing win conditions is pointless, but I still find it interesting-
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I think people who are scummy should be considered first. Voting patters could be used against them, yes, but I don't think it should be used as a basis of finding scum.MonkeyMan wrote:I'm saying that people on the wagon should be considered first, and that people off the wagon should be given the benefit of the doubt
This bit I agree with.MonkeyMan wrote:especially when accusers give no reasoning for their accusations.
At the time of your attempted hammer, had it been established that there were no NKs?Kmd wrote:And even if EGL was a doc, he'd have been dead that night anyway.
People can make mistakes. Zwet was a good D1 lynch, IMO.MonkeyMan wrote:You were obviously wrong about KMD being scum, so why should we believe you about you being town?
He attempted to hammer, but didn't get the hammer vote. As it was said, caboose later hammered.MonkeyMan wrote:Voting for two townies, and from what i understand, you hammered
Because everyone in the game has to agree with a lynch before it goes through. Just because you didn't think it was reasoned enough, doesn't mean that the majority didn't either.MonkeyMan wrote:It wasn't well reasoned enough for me to be on board, so I'm not letting him off the hook.
I don't like how you're pushing this so hard. The wagon against zwet was reasonable. Scum could just as easily have been off the wagon than on. We should look at what people say, andMonkeyMan wrote:No problem, I suggest we start looking at those who were in on the vote, especially towards the end, and those who might be behaving suspiciously(ie defending the vote).perhapstake voting patterns into account, not the other way round.
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I think it's very possible one might have done, but not certain - and I don't think they all will have done, even if one does.Kmd wrote:You don't think even one scum took the opportunity to push a double mislynch Day 1?
It's very possible that one or more scum tried to make themselves appear pro-town by not following a lynch they know will turn out townie.
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I don't think he's saying you're a sheep in trying to advocate looking at vote counts - but you are when followed Kmd in voting for him.My Wiki Page|My Last.FM|My Steam
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Monkey - surely that only applies if the case made is actually 100%against scum? It could be an amazing case, but scum could still jump on it, promote its wisdom, and lynch a townie.
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I would assume the why and who come under 'how' the vote is cast.My Wiki Page|My Last.FM|My Steam
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I think DGB's post was a balls-up.
You've not missed a great deal, activity's through the floor right now.My Wiki Page|My Last.FM|My Steam
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This the one you're talking about?DrippingGoofball wrote:We're on page 18? Can someone point me to zwet's fakeclaim?-
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Also, DGB - any more reasons for voting Kmd, or are you just following roffman's train of thought?My Wiki Page|My Last.FM|My Steam
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Oh, OK.
Well, I won't complain, this game needs the shot in the arm.My Wiki Page|My Last.FM|My Steam
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I am voting. I could've sworn I was voting for Monkeyman.My Wiki Page|My Last.FM|My Steam
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DGB - Yes, I am voting. post 388.
And I won't vote for Kmd as I think he's pro-town, and I think Monkey is more likely to be scum.
Jebus - You don't have the liberty of voting 'til you've read through, so, why?My Wiki Page|My Last.FM|My Steam
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DGB - Are you completely serious about this claim? It's certainly increasing activity, but we need more than that now, we need to find scum.My Wiki Page|My Last.FM|My Steam
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Just making sure it wasn't for activity purposes or something else like that. Now we can look at this in a bit more depth.My Wiki Page|My Last.FM|My Steam
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Why?The Count wrote:unvote, vote: KMD
No.DGB wrote:I'm a nightkill-immune cop. So let's kill kmd and get it over with. I'll investigate a player every night and since the scum can't kill me, the game is in the bag for the town.
Mafia can't kill at night anyway. We've already established this.
From the outlandish to the ridiculous.DGB wrote:I know it sounds too good to be true, but I have to admit to a major drawback. I'm a miller, too.
Uh.. we haven't had a N2?DGB wrote:I got an innocent on The Count Night 1, and no result Night 2.
OK, in that case...DGB wrote:Totally serious.
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Your 'claim' is ridiculous. It was unnecessary at the time, it's blatantly a lie, and I think you're scum.
Possible partner, especially since The Count followed DGB's vote on Kmd.DGB wrote:I got an innocent on The CountMy Wiki Page|My Last.FM|My Steam
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Surely whoever you investigated, if you were roleblocked it would give no result anyway? Therefore this shows nothing about caboose?DrippingGoofball wrote:The 'no result' was on Caboose, that's why I'm certain Caboose is the mafia roleblocker. It's a powerful scum role, we have to kill her today.
Well... not how I'd put it. But yes, I've made a case before against Monkey and I still stick to it - but I think you're more likely scum right now.DGB wrote:And Monkey is just a scummy wagon jumper who wants to kill the doctor.-
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DGB - I'm voting for you. You say that when you're lynched and turn up town, everyone voting for you is scum. But you say I'm town.
Could you please confirm which?My Wiki Page|My Last.FM|My Steam
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Yes.
You're not a cop. I want to see what you really think.My Wiki Page|My Last.FM|My Steam
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If that scummy exists, I give my word I'll nominate you for it.
Please, people. Vote DGB.My Wiki Page|My Last.FM|My Steam
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lol.
don_johnson - Yes, DGB's admitting that her claim of cop was fake. This almost certainly means she's scum.My Wiki Page|My Last.FM|My Steam
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Kmd - Perhaps. But I'd rather not take the chance.My Wiki Page|My Last.FM|My Steam
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Kmd, I think you're overthinking this.
Like the spectacular screw-up we've just witnessed?DGB wrote:Quirky, maybe, but scummy, never. Unless I spectacularly screw up.
Yes.Kmd wrote:As scum, would DGB fakeclaim something ridiculous, get called on it, and say "I give up" any more than she would as town?
It's my belief that she was trying to claim that, and use her playstyle to scrape her way through it as a confirmed town.
Note that DGB said herself that it was done without thinking.
She made a mistake, we caught her out. She's admitting it, there's nothing she could say in her defence.Nightfall wrote:Because I find it odd how she seems dead set on us lynching her?
I'm agreeing with caboose here.
Also, Kmd - DGB is paired with The Count, whom I believe you had a case on earlier? We could always try and test your theories and lynch a scum.-
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