[OLD] Open Setup Ideas and Discussion
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I have no idea how this will work but I just wanna throw it out there.
4 SK's
4 Doc's
1 Cop
SK's come up as guilty scan, Doc's obviously come up innocent. Lynches and NK's are necessary
Just throwing an idea out there.Taking a temporary retirement from playing mafia games... damn you invitationals.
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Empking's Alt Mafia Scum
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Not normal- No Mafia GroupCaboose wrote:hohum wrote:somestrangeflea wrote:
TOO SOON.JDodge wrote:Don't Cut The Blue Wire
2 Townies
1 SK
1 Mafiate
1 Bomb
1 One-Shot Bulletproof
Nightkills compulsory
This one should fix pretty much all of the issues of Red Wire while maintaining the basic concept, and in fact improve the basic concept greatly.NominateAntinominate
I don't like how the town can win off of the mafiate and the SK killing each other. That doesn't really take any skill on the town's part.
Anything to solve that?
Don't Cut The Green Wire
2 Mafia
1 Bulletproof SK
1 Townie
1 Infected Bomb - If night killed, kills everyone on that faction.
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I think I get what farside meant now (thanks sens) the busdrivers actions take place in order they are received, or it could be set beforehand as a part of the role resolution
Y -> Z -> X (Y is now X)SensFan wrote:X targets Y, Z
Y targets X, Z
X -> X -> Z (X is now Z)
Z -> Y -> Y (Z is now Y)
Y <-> ZSensFan wrote:X targets Y, Z
Y targets X, W
X <-> W
Same as firstSensFan wrote:X targets Z, W
Y targets V, W
Same as secondSensFan wrote:X targets Y, Z
Y targets W, V
Y -> Z -> WSensFan wrote:X targets Y, Z
Y targets Z, W
W -> W -> Z
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How about this:Caboose wrote:hohum wrote:somestrangeflea wrote:
TOO SOON.JDodge wrote:Don't Cut The Blue Wire
2 Townies
1 SK
1 Mafiate
1 Bomb
1 One-Shot Bulletproof
Nightkills compulsory
This one should fix pretty much all of the issues of Red Wire while maintaining the basic concept, and in fact improve the basic concept greatly.NominateAntinominate
I don't like how the town can win off of the mafiate and the SK killing each other. That doesn't really take any skill on the town's part.
Anything to solve that?
Don't Cut The Pink Wire
3 Townies
1 SK
2 Mafia
1 Bomb
1 One-Shot Bulletproof
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You are (probably) an Alt, so you could nominate with one hand and second/third with another.Empking's Alt wrote:Flay: Why shouldn't I be able to nominate set ups?
Even if you aren't an alt, you haven't run a game yet. This Queue issupposedto be for untested mods with tested setups. All of the rules for making game setups in Mini Theme apply here in my opinion; you should have run at least one game before designing an Open Setup.
Even if you have run a game on another site, you'd been on MafiaScum.net less than two months when you nominated DCTRW. So your game experience may be very different than our expectations here.Retired as of October 2014.-
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Right, sorry. what I meant was that you must get a unanimous vote of all townies on Day One of a daystart game, but also on Day Two if you don't miraculously hit scum the first time. Any setup (see: AITP) that benefits from a "lynch as fast as possible at random" is not well-balanced.Adel wrote:
That is probably because it isn't a problem. The town doesn't have to lynch unanimously two days in a row. The mafia goons are lovers, hence the name. The game can only last two days. If scum is lynched on either of those two days the town wins.Mr. Flay wrote:Lovers has been discussed to death - I've never seen you address the "Town must lynch unanimously two days in a row" problem.
Is there a problem I am not seeing?
Fine; I'm not expecting everyone to find my troubles compelling. But a game where entire teams can be eliminated by D2 through no fault of their own is ugly to me. And that's leaving aside the utter weirdness of a "Backup Mason".
I believe that swingy is an acceptable attribute for a game, especially an open game.F&E&E&TOG is awfully swingy, assuming cross-kills go through. Fire and Ice is only borderline Normal, because of the way cross-kills go through.
As I said before, I don't read this thread all the time, so I looked at Fire & Ice (which was undergoing considerable revision at the time) and figured it was dead in the water. And yes, I've objected several times to how weird the Open Game queue is getting, compared to usual Normals. mith's original post is quite clear on this, but people ignore it regularly.Fire and Ice was originally ok'd by Thesp, and it has been run three (4?) times now. Why the objection to it now? I don't think it would be hard to rewrite the mechanic and role PMs to make it appear more "normal". Is a lack of being "Normal" enough a problem you have with other setups?
It's got the 'weirdness' problem of trying to determine what's going on with nightkills. The bodyguard can only protect someone rarely anyway, now they have no way of knowing whether or not they did or the scumgroups crosskilled, making them even more useless. And what happens if F, I, and B all target the same player?
I don't know, is it? TF policy is that the TF has final say; they've accepted things with just one suggestion before, they've banned things with four or five people behind them if they're stupid. I'm asking for a little more clarity in the process, and I'd love to have some backstops so that we're not putting all the work on the List Mod.
it is like the Title Fairy... isn't it?What IS the current process, or is like Title Fairy?Retired as of October 2014.-
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Nominate:
Jew C9 (New C9, but with no pigs. Or docs).
20 Players of whom:
4 scum
NK-immune SK
15 town, of whom:
0-2 trackers
0-1 Vig
0-1 Watcher
0-1 Nightwatchman
0-1 Bodyguard
0-1 Jailkeeper
0-1 Super Saint
7-15 vanilla townies.
NIGHT START.
Note that the 'watcher' in this setup is what most of you would call a weak tracker, and the nightwatchman is what most people (imho, incorrectly) call a watcher.Last edited by The Fonz on Tue Feb 17, 2009 5:25 am, edited 1 time in total.-
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Nah The Fonz just goes by original meanings of those names. Basically he calls a "reporter" a watcher and a watcher a "night watchman"
see here for more details
http://www.mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Watcher
http://www.mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Reporter
Night watchman has been seen more commonly than reporter and so it became the more common understanding of watcher. We should probably just rename them both to get things straight at this point.Last edited by PokerFace on Tue Feb 17, 2009 5:14 am, edited 1 time in total.When I joined this site, I was a software tester for mobile business applications and the song PokerFace was not yet written by Lady Gaga
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When did people start calling that role a reporter, Poker? I've never seen that in a game. If y'all wanted to call them reporter/watcher though, that would be fine by me. Since reporter also sounds better than 'weak tracker.'Last edited by The Fonz on Tue Feb 17, 2009 5:15 am, edited 1 time in total.-
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Well me and The fonz just got simulposted/edited
What's popular is not always right and vice versa so nobody is indeed wrong though changing names again for all may be the only way to fix things. Make a MD thread about changing both if you want to.Last edited by PokerFace on Tue Feb 17, 2009 5:18 am, edited 1 time in total.When I joined this site, I was a software tester for mobile business applications and the song PokerFace was not yet written by Lady Gaga
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PokerFace Too Useful
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I'm not sure when I think there was a thread about calling it a reporter or a photographer. I only recently have seen a few games where a photographer was used like that.The Fonz wrote:When did people start calling that role a reporter, Poker? I've never seen that in a game. If y'all wanted to call them reporter/watcher though, that would be fine by me. Since reporter also sounds better than 'weak tracker.'
will edit a game links here shortly
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 72#1363572
PS. stop the simul posting!Last edited by PokerFace on Tue Feb 17, 2009 5:21 am, edited 2 times in total.When I joined this site, I was a software tester for mobile business applications and the song PokerFace was not yet written by Lady Gaga
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True you could call them that or anything just to be funny if mechanics are still understood
And I think the setup is a good idea since cops and docs are too over used. And those other roles should be used more in their place. Might need a better name than Jew C9 thoughLast edited by PokerFace on Tue Feb 17, 2009 5:32 am, edited 2 times in total.When I joined this site, I was a software tester for mobile business applications and the song PokerFace was not yet written by Lady Gaga
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