Pretty much agrees with what I said. Since sirdanilot is undecided gives me more comfort that he and his scumpartner don't want this move played and all the more reason for me toAbstract Actuary wrote:Ok, looking at it. I'm fine trading away our bishop for their knight. Right now our top priority is safety. We achieve that mainly between development and repositioning our king. Be3 doesn't help us develop, whereas g3 does. I don't like our bishop on e2 as it suffocates our already vulnerable queen so I want to develop it to its right. g3 protects the pawn and moves to develop the f bishop.
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move: g3On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero.
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We have to move the Queen. e3, e2 and b3 are the only safe squares. At this point I can see some merit for each of them and at the same time none stand out as great moves. After Qe3 or Qe2 a knight move discover attacks the c2 pawn, while opening up the e-file for an attack on our queen/king. I'm not seeing anything particularly devastating, but it isn't good for us. For this reason, I'm leaning towards Qb3, despite it suffocating our queen.
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I like Qb3. It puts pressure on the b4 pawn and allows us to later play c3 to clear up some of the cluster on that side of the board. Plus it also gives us the option to play Bf3 which develops the white squared bishop while prompting another chance at an exchange.
Oh, and,vote: sirdanilot. My money's on him not really being useful in this day's discussion except to claim who's scum.. i.e. pretty much to continue what he's been doing most of the game.On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero.
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I don't see any gains.. it's a passive move that doesn't accomplish anything except to lock our queen in with our own pawns and, theoretically, put it on a collision course with a possible pin in the e-file in a couple moves. In fact, as long as the king isn't castled, I'd like for the queen to stay away from the e-file.On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero.
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The reason we need to move our queen is because of the "discovered" attack on the queen from black's bishop when they move the knight. For example, if black moves Nxg3, then they are attacking the rook with their knight and also attacking the queen with their bishop at the same time. We'd have to move the queen so we don't lose it to the bishop, but we would end up losing our rook for free to the knight in return.sirdanilot wrote:? the g3 square is protected. So is f2. I can see it threatening Nxd2 though. Why don't we move the Bd2 somewhere instead-
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Ah ok now I get it.
Qe3 is better. Unlike what veerus-scum is trying to indoctrinate into our brains, Qb3 is clearly not the best option. It does not put any pressure on any pawn; a simple ...a5 will suffice to lock the queen up. Qe2 puts the queen too far back, meaning Qe3 will get my vote.
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Says the guy who didn't even realize we needed to move the queen in the first place.sirdanilot wrote:Ah ok now I get it.
Qe3 is better. Unlike what veerus-scum is trying to indoctrinate into our brains, Qb3 is clearly not the best option. It does not put any pressure on any pawn; a simple ...a5 will suffice to lock the queen up. Qe2 puts the queen too far back, meaning Qe3 will get my vote.
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It's really the only option that makes any sense in this position.On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero.
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Then prove to me how Qb3 is less disappointing.Max wrote:If we move to E3 they'll probably move to g5, followed by us a bishop to C3 then they move their knight to C5 (if they're following optimal strategy), then we'll move bishop to d3. It gives us a bishop and a knight at most, overall a disappointing plan.
Yes veerus, I did not realize that we had to move the queen. That is simply because of lack of chess experience and temporal inability to find out the logic why we need to move it. However, the fact that I am now trying to put my thoughts out there, despite my ignorance of chess, should have put me on your townie list a long, long time ago, because this is not the first time I've tried to do this.
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