Mafia 82: International (Game Over)

[Caboose]

Sc- are you a survivor?

Skruffs, you better have a darn good reason to ask this.

Yeah, that seems like a really odd question to ask.

Hopefully, I'll be up to speed pretty soon...

[Caboose]

I usually hate people that do this, but I'm doing it now...

Still reading... Sorry guys.

[Caboose]

Still working on that read.

I'm looking at Battle Mage's (do you care if I call you BM? Those are my initials, BTW ) recent posts about SC. Does anyone mind summarizing the case on SC, please?

[Caboose]

Why would he be so secretive about his role as a vanilla townie?

Claiming vanilla too early makes it easier for the scum to hit power roles.

Then why did you claim at L-3?

*facepalm*

BM

[Caboose]

awaits another bright idea from bm

What do you mean by this?

BM

I'm interested in seeing tubby's answer to this.

[Caboose]

awaits another bright idea from bm

What do you mean by this?

BM

I'm interested in seeing tubby's answer to this.

I am interesting to see if you have anything to contribute to the game.

I know you only replaced a few weeks back... But you have lurked. You have had almost a month to catch up on the game and shared no thoughts.

Post something relevant to what you think.

TM, I'm still getting my bearings here. First of all, I'm trying to wade through the first 60 pages of postage still (I didn't think it would take me nearly this long; my attention span is short and I cannot read more than a few pages at a time). Also, it feels like we have a bunch of conversations going on at once between different people (which I've never seen in a mafia game before).

But I must say that the way this game started has been the oddest thing I've ever seen. Starting the game off with a pact?

[Caboose]

Caboose, again, what do you think of Skruffs?

Unvote, Vote Caboose

Caboose, answer the question please.

What do you think of Skruffs?

I must have missed your question, but the vote is interesting.

I really don't know what's up with Skruff's, but he's modding a game that I'm currently in and he seems to have gone AWOL from that one as well (we've been in N1 for a week).

May I please know why you asked me that question?

[Caboose]

Ugh 2024 is scummy-sounding.

If we string Blakadder up today, i promise we'll deal with him tomorrow.

BM

You would both be barking up my ass if I had dropped a vote already, too. You know it and I know it.

Have i criticised anyone for voting so far? You're sounding paranoid.

Just put me out of my misery already!

BM

What do you mean by that BM?

[Caboose]

I know my activity this game is not what I want it to be, but I hope to fix that by the end of today.

That said:

I dont see anyone scummy other then black adder, plus bm has a good case

vote blackadder

I haven't finished the reread yet, but this stuck out at me. I might be the pot calling the kettle black, but does anyone else besides me find it a little bit weird that K7 comes out of absolutely nowhere and puts BA at L-2. On top of that, his vote is pretty sloppily explained.

Also, @springlullaby

I must have missed your question, but the vote is interesting.

I really don't know what's up with Skruff's, but he's modding a game that I'm currently in and he seems to have gone AWOL from that one as well (we've been in N1 for a week).

May I please know why you asked me that question?

[Caboose]

The lurking on K7's part doesn't concern me. The fact that he comes out of nowhere and puts BA at L-2 for a pretty weak reason does. The vote backed up with the reason of "what BM said" just doesn't sit well with me. He conviently comes out of lurking to put BA at L-2 and then makes the reason that BM has a good case. Something just doesn't seem right about that.

Vote: killa seven

That said, springlullaby's uncooperativeness is getting really annoying.

[Caboose]

The lurking on K7's part doesn't concern me. The fact that he comes out of nowhere and puts BA at L-2 for a pretty weak reason does. The vote backed up with the reason of "what BM said" just doesn't sit well with me. He conviently comes out of lurking to put BA at L-2 and then makes the reason that BM has a good case. Something just doesn't seem right about that.

Vote: killa seven

That said, springlullaby's uncooperativeness is getting really annoying.

The lurking is the reason why BM wants to lynch him. You want to lynch him because of putting BA at L-2. I no longer think of this as a LAL case as Caboose tried to make reason to it. I would like to hear from K7 before I even think about adding my vote to the mix.

why was putting BA at -2 scummy?

BM

No, that's not what I said, either. Lurking by itself isn't particularly scummy and putting someone at -2 isn't scummy by itself either. But the combination of those two, IMO, are.

Caboose, if you find opportunism like that so scummy, I suggest your next vote be one for yourself, my friend. FoS: Caboose

So you don't think that my reason for voting K7 is legit? How so?

[Caboose]

The lurking on K7's part doesn't concern me. The fact that he comes out of nowhere and puts BA at L-2 for a pretty weak reason does. The vote backed up with the reason of "what BM said" just doesn't sit well with me. He conviently comes out of lurking to put BA at L-2 and then makes the reason that BM has a good case. Something just doesn't seem right about that.

Vote: killa seven

That said, springlullaby's uncooperativeness is getting really annoying.

The lurking is the reason why BM wants to lynch him. You want to lynch him because of putting BA at L-2. I no longer think of this as a LAL case as Caboose tried to make reason to it. I would like to hear from K7 before I even think about adding my vote to the mix.

why was putting BA at -2 scummy?

BM

No, that's not what I said, either. Lurking by itself isn't particularly scummy and putting someone at -2 isn't scummy by itself either. But the combination of those two, IMO, are.

Lol, are you really saying that 2 non-scumtells make a scumtell? 0 + 0 = 1?

BM

Let's use another analogy.

By itself, carbon is not a dangerous substance. What we call pencil lead is not lead at all, but graphite, which is all sheets of carbon. In fact, the basis of organic chemistry is the element carbon.

Also by itself, oxygen is not a dangerous substance either. We actually need it to live.

But, the compound CO (carbon monoxide) is a lethal poison.

[Caboose]

prod received. Still here.

Great. Anything to say?

I perceive K7's coming out of absolutely

nowhere

at the super convienent time to put BA at L-2 for a really poorly explained reason as scummy. All K7 uses to explain his vote is "because BM has a good case."

[Caboose]

FoS: Tom Mason

Any reason?

[Caboose]

Well, I'm outed, kind of.

I won't fully reveal my role right now. However, I will say that I'm a protective role (no, I'm not a doc) that did indeed target Skruffs last night.

That makes me a little bit more suspicious of BM. While Skruffs didn't die, I could have interfered with BM's attempt at a Skruffs kill.

[Caboose]

Well, I'm outed, kind of.

I won't fully reveal my role right now. However, I will say that I'm a protective role (no, I'm not a doc) that did indeed target Skruffs last night.

That makes me a little bit more suspicious of BM. While Skruffs didn't die, I could have interfered with BM's attempt at a Skruffs kill.

The only way this makes sense if is if you are a roleblocker. But last I checked the town and one mafia roleblocker are dead.

So, are you saying you are another town roleblocker or did you just out yourself as one of the last remaining mafia members?

Nope, not a roleblocker.

[Caboose]

@BM: No, I don't know your role. Have you claimed?

...

you're an idiot.

I'd like to hear from Caboose now. Of the claims so far:

Springlullaby - 99% protown
Caboose - 91% protown
Blakadder - 90% protown

My doubts over Caboose come from the haste to NOT claim Doctor. Potentially concerned about being drawn up against Blakadder?
Blakadder is scummy as hell and barely paying attention. The claim bought him some time, but Doc is a fairly easy claim to make.

BM

I won't go into a full claim right now, but I will say that I have a limited protection power.

There's a good reason that I'm not claiming, and I'll gladly share it with you after the impediment to me is gone.

[Caboose]

I don't like how scared Caboose is of claiming.
Caboose, are you a variation of a doctor or are you a different role entirely?

Slight variation of a doc.

[Caboose]

today. Not all that long ago, given that i still remembered it, and was able to find it easily. I was hoping Blakadder-Doc could confirm himself by protecting me, and my life would be guaranteed.

BM

I assume your sanity is confirmed?

I dont have my PM anymore, so i'd have to check if it says implicitly that i am sane. But i doubt the presence of variable sanity cops in a game like this anyway.

That said:

Caboose- can you confirm that your role would not have affected my investigation result last night?

BM

My role couldn't have affected your result last night.
Have you investigated anyone who died already? That would tell you your sanity pretty quickly.

[Caboose]

OK, since it will make BM's job easier...

I am a Firefighter. I can only protect people from being cremated, not drowned or dimembered or poisoned. Once the arsonist dies, I become a vanilla.

[Caboose]

Caboose, why did you chose to protect Skruffs?

The history of your night action please.

Reading Skruff's post gave me an overall pro-town feeling, along w/ BM's. But I figured that BM would be protected anyway by some kind of doc, so I chose the second person on my list.

The night I replaced in, I protected Hascows mostly because I recognized him to be an experienced player on this site (this is before I read a single post).

[Caboose]

Second, there is no way in your plan to find out if the cop (being you) is innocent. That would be a pretty convenient situation if you were scum.

This is true.
Mind responding to this BM?

[Caboose]

I think that BM's plan should be forgotten about at this point. I'm protecting whoever I think is best.

Same here.
And BM, you probably shouldn't say who you're going to investigate as your investigation will probably be screwed with by a framer, if there is one.

[Caboose]

Activity will be spotty for next few days due to holidays.

[Caboose]

It was in Tom's post. Go back to the previous page.

He pointed out Sineish was Porto and died from Dismemberments. He also noted the Portuguese Man O War fish which kills from poisoning (I googled it). Poisoning pretty much is Porto for sure now. Whether it is anything else in addition remains to be seen but yeah.

And good ol' BM has been arguing against it for quite a while...

Yeah, but there were

2

poisonings night 2.

[Caboose]

BM, can you please explain (although I'm sure you have already and I have just missed it) why, exactly, you will not claim your targets?

This, I'm not sure why BM won't share his results.

[Caboose]

To the mod:

Life has gotten really busy for me really fast.

I am requesting replacement

because I do not believe I have the time nor energy to do a good job.

-Caboose

[Caboose]

Ewww...
You guys are actually using NK flavor meta? That's really weak.

BTW, protected myself last night. I was hopping that I drew the arsonist kill, which I seem to have done.

[Caboose]

How do you explain Skruffs "severe poisoning" when it was clear you and BM both targeted him before his death while claiming to be Firefighter?

It's just the flavor Skitzer used.
NK flavor meta still sucks.

[Caboose]

Also, I'm not ruling out the possibility that SL is still scum and lying about her results. While I believe her watcher claim, her alignment is not clear to me. She could have intentionally left her poisoner scumbuddy out of her results in order to put me in exactly the situation I am in now.

[Caboose]

Vote: tubby

I do agree we need to get rid of the survivor.

[Caboose]

I don't know why people think I fakeclaimed.

[Caboose]

Target last night was BA.

[Caboose]

I thought I was getting a HUGE break when BM flipped poisoner.

But I got screwed by the flavor...

[Caboose]

Portuguese Mafia
http://quicktopic.com/42/H/5i3U8eatRLf

[Caboose]

EBWOP: Anyone have any constructive criticism on my playstyle?

Not protecting a virtually confirmed

watcher

is just a bad move, especially near the end game when the probablility of a scum killing someone the watcher is watching is high.