Good Omens Mafia! Game Over.
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Locus Cosecant Mafia Scum
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This is what happens when you suffer IS to live.Confirm vote: PookyShow[size=75]Stats:
Pro-Town: 14 of 17 games
Doctor: 3 of 17 games
Cop: 2 of 17 games
Wins: 12 of 17 games
Lynched Scum: 16 of 27 lynches
Vig-killed Scum: 1 of 1 vig-kills
Survived/NightKilled/Lynched: 5/11/1 games
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Seol Logical Rampage
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So what're we doing now? Establishing a bandwagon, then switching that bandwagon to whoever's on that bandwagon with the worst logic, then switching that bandwagon to whoever's on that bandwagon with the worst logic, then switching that bandwagon to whoever's on that bandwagon with the worst logic? I'm not sure where we're going to get like this.
Ah well, for reasons that have been said over and over -unvote, vote: Coron. Your reasons seem worse than anyone else's to me, so far.[i]The hungry maw of Twilight snaps, but shall not have its fill,
Until one man hangs by his neck, by half this curs'd town's will[/i]-
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Seol Logical Rampage
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That's 9, with 15 to lynch. And if you want to claim, then just do it, don't make us go through a charade of carefully counting out 13 votes and then stopping and waiting for you.Coron wrote:How many is that? I need to claim(role, not name) before they "acidentally" lynch me stupid freaking scum.[i]The hungry maw of Twilight snaps, but shall not have its fill,
Until one man hangs by his neck, by half this curs'd town's will[/i]-
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Locus Cosecant Mafia Scum
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I don't see what he's done that's worthy of a claim, more than, oh, I don't know, Pooky.Show[size=75]Stats:
Pro-Town: 14 of 17 games
Doctor: 3 of 17 games
Cop: 2 of 17 games
Wins: 12 of 17 games
Lynched Scum: 16 of 27 lynches
Vig-killed Scum: 1 of 1 vig-kills
Survived/NightKilled/Lynched: 5/11/1 games
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Coron Shameless Plug
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mepmuff Goon
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Coron Shameless Plug
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mepmuff Goon
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Coron, at least we agree that people need to post more. Nothing seem to be happening here!
I don't feel you need to claim just yet, as the wagon on you isn't nearly strong enough. However, I do think that if maybe three more votes are placed on you, you should at least tell us the kind of role you have (Without giving details, of course; we don't want you modkilled for revealing too much, especially if you're a good guy after all!)-
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Dragon Phoenix Don't shoot the mod
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mepmuff Goon
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So far, I hadn't seen anything that really made my hairs rise. The last to posts by peacebringer did however.
So:unvote, vote: PeaceBringer
For your reading pleasure, here's PB posts collected:
PeaceBringer (post 11) wrote:oh my-PeaceBringer (post 30) wrote:okay 4 deaths and a mix of bad guys and good guys.
Randomvote Genocide Heart(just giving more reason to not like me-hehe)[/b]PeaceBringer (post 34) wrote:fyi I know nothing about the book--PeaceBringer (post 163) wrote:can we get a vote count-PeaceBringer (post 264) wrote:unvote, vote coron-for reasons mith statedPeaceBringer (posts 292) wrote:hmm fine,unvote, vote gaspodeDisclaimer: Not an actual claim. [i](Save The Dragons in Peacecity 1)[/i]-
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Dragon Phoenix Don't shoot the mod
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olio Mafia Scum
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mith Godfather
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I didn't even realize PeaceBringer was playing... on the other hand, after watching NYPD unfold, I don't know that PB is acting scummy so much as careless.
Because people might *gasp* find you suspicious? That's the whole point of making you do it. If your reasoning makes sense, it will hold up to posting. If it doesn't, then not making you post it just lets you get away with it if you're scum. If everyone just posts little comments nearly void of content, the town suffers.Coron wrote:See this is why I hella didn't want to have to do that.
1. If a reason is not *valid* on its own, it's not actually a reason. It's just fluff.None of the reasons by themselves are valid, but when put together they are.
2. I suspect what you meant that none of the reasons are worth a vote on their own; in theory, sure, you can get enough of a case against someone without any single particularly strong piece of evidence. In this particular case, you come up well short of anything useful.
Next post is almost unreadable because he was "really pissed off". Joy. I'll note here that I would probably vote for Coron just based on *his* posting style; the difference is, I could go into detail what elements of his style are scummy (several cases of False Dilemma, quite emotional for no real reason, noncommittal, lots of little non-content comments, and so on).
Small things do matter. There's a difference between small things and "things that aren't reasons but were thrown in to make my post look more impressive because I don't have a real argument".The problem is it's NOT zero, you think small things don't matter? How often does scum mess up bigtime? once in every three games? I'd rather not rely on random lynchings and claimed cop following.
~shrug~ If I have something to illustrate a point, I'll use it. In this case though, it doubles as a guide to how I play, as I haven't ever played with quite a few of you.Also: Mith, you really like linking to other games where you pick apart people's posts. Are you trying to intimidate us?
And I have to say if I ever saw a bandwagon groing too fast for the evidence available it's the one against Coron.-
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isn't that basically what I was doing?I'll note here that I would probably vote for Coron just based on *his* posting style; the difference is, I could go into detail what elements of his style are scummy
I'm not sure I understand(several cases of False Dilemma,
me emotions? phhh that's sillyquite emotional
(bolding done by me) MAY I ASK YOU IF WE ARE PLAYING THE SAME GAME in HOW many posts have I changed my votes? I don't think I've even ever UNVOTED THIS GAME.noncommittal,
This is ligitimately true! Too bad I'm always like that EXCEPT for sometimes when I'm scum(see african mafia where I didn't really say much)lots of little non-content comments-
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Desperate Heart Townie
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2nd trimester at my highschool is ending, and consequently I had lots of super exciting academic drudgery to wade through. I think I almost failed english
Also, I willunvote.
I'll probably vote for PB later on. Need to decide between him and Coron though.[i]There is only ONE god:
He is the SUN god:
Ra! Ra! Ra![/i]-
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Fuldu Mafia Scum
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Coron, you weretryingto delve into which elements of Aelyn's style were scummy, but you began by refusing to do so, saying that everyone should look and they'd see for themselves, and then grumbling when you finally followed through and did it. And when your detailed list looks like it does, it doesn't exactly suggest that you're any good at it. mith, on the other hand recognizes that accurately explaining your concerns is useful for everyone and does it in a cogent and thorough manner. I don't agree with everything he's said, but I can respect and understand the reasons he's making them.
False Dilemma: The main error of this sort that I see in your "argument" is the notion that a player must either be helping the town or be scum. Your suggestion that Aelyn is suspicious because he FOSed Peachy, who (in your view) was helping the town falls under this point, as does the notion that Aelyn has made a lot of useless posts and must therefore be scum. I would point you to the recently completed Long Winter game for examples of why this is a False Dilemma. Pretty much every town player, and possibly especially the two of us, was pro-town but taking actions that pretty consistently helped scum.
Also, I would note that you've made a lot of non-useful posts yourself, especially of the "C'mon, anybody who doesn't understand my argument and doesn't see what I see is scum" variety. You even admit to as much in your most recent post. If it's scummy in somebody else, why is it okay when you do it?
And yes, you have been playing very emotionally. In fact, the sentence just after you deny being emotional devolves into yelling at mith in all-caps. I'd consider that an emotional response. Also, claiming to have cracked a door while posting suggests emotionality to me. Perhaps others would disagree.It takes a village to raise a lynch mob.
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