Good Omens Mafia! Game Over.

[Locus Cosecant]

This is what happens when you suffer IS to live.

Confirm vote: Pooky

[Seol]

So what're we doing now? Establishing a bandwagon, then switching that bandwagon to whoever's on that bandwagon with the worst logic, then switching that bandwagon to whoever's on that bandwagon with the worst logic, then switching that bandwagon to whoever's on that bandwagon with the worst logic? I'm not sure where we're going to get like this.

Ah well, for reasons that have been said over and over -

unvote, vote: Coron

. Your reasons seem worse than anyone else's to me, so far.

[Coron]

How many is that? I need to claim(role, not name) before they "acidentally" lynch me stupid freaking scum.

[Seol]

How many is that? I need to claim(role, not name) before they "acidentally" lynch me stupid freaking scum.

That's 9, with 15 to lynch. And if you want to claim, then just do it, don't make us go through a charade of carefully counting out 13 votes and then stopping and waiting for you.

[Locus Cosecant]

I don't see what he's done that's worthy of a claim, more than, oh, I don't know, Pooky.

[Coron]

*sigh* I hate how people thing that subtle things don't matter.

[Coron]

From the 11-14th I will be going to compete in robotics
same from 25-28 so resticted if any access.

[Coron]

I'm the only one to post here in like 23 hours. WAKE UP!

[mepmuff]

I'm awake. And I have to say if I ever saw a bandwagon groing too fast for the evidence available it's the one against Coron.

[Coron]

thanks mep you really ought to think of voting for someone though. There are plenty of good canidates, like pooky and aleyn.

[mepmuff]

Well, dear coron, if you want to live, you'd better start checking your facts. My vote is cast at the moment.

[Coron]

Oh sorry, I didn't notice it there in the sea of votes for Gaspode.

[Coron]

I went over again, aelyn still looks like more scum than anyone else. There are seriously people that need to post more.

[Aelyn]

Coron, at least we agree that people need to post more. Nothing seem to be happening here!

I don't feel you need to claim just yet, as the wagon on you isn't nearly strong enough. However, I do think that if maybe three more votes are placed on you, you should at least tell us the kind of role you have (Without giving details, of course; we don't want you modkilled for revealing too much, especially if you're a good guy after all!)

[Coron]

Prelim claim: I'm protown.

[Coron]

DoomCow
DP
Electra
GH
JDTAY
Laz
Peachy
SO
Subtle Tactics
and thoth all have to check into the thread this month

MOD: I'd like to request many many pokings

[Dragon Phoenix]

This month is of course just 4 days old...

I'm keeping my vote on Gaspode. If that makes you happy, I'll post that every single page.

[PeaceBringer]

hmm fine,

unvote, vote gaspode

[mepmuff]

So far, I hadn't seen anything that really made my hairs rise. The last to posts by peacebringer did however.

So:

unvote, vote: PeaceBringer

For your reading pleasure, here's PB posts collected:

oh my-

okay 4 deaths and a mix of bad guys and good guys.

Random

vote Genocide Heart

(just giving more reason to not like me-hehe)[/b]

fyi I know nothing about the book--

can we get a vote count-

unvote, vote coron

-for reasons mith stated

hmm fine,

unvote, vote gaspode

[Dragon Phoenix]

I'll drink to that, as my Gaspode wagon is not going to run to completion anyway apparently.

unvote Gaspode, vote: PeaceBringer

[olio]

Fresh, new wagon with a good potential as well as good (or not so good) candidate in my list.

unvote: Aelyn
vote: PeaceBringer

[mith]

I didn't even realize PeaceBringer was playing... on the other hand, after watching NYPD unfold, I don't know that PB is acting scummy so much as careless.

See this is why I hella didn't want to have to do that.

Because people might *gasp* find you suspicious? That's the whole point of making you do it. If your reasoning makes sense, it will hold up to posting. If it doesn't, then not making you post it just lets you get away with it if you're scum. If everyone just posts little comments nearly void of content, the town suffers.

None of the reasons by themselves are valid, but when put together they are.

1. If a reason is not *valid* on its own, it's not actually a reason. It's just fluff.
2. I suspect what you meant that none of the reasons are worth a vote on their own; in theory, sure, you can get enough of a case against someone without any single particularly strong piece of evidence. In this particular case, you come up well short of anything useful.

Next post is almost unreadable because he was "really pissed off". Joy. I'll note here that I would probably vote for Coron just based on *his* posting style; the difference is, I could go into detail what elements of his style are scummy (several cases of False Dilemma, quite emotional for no real reason, noncommittal, lots of little non-content comments, and so on).

The problem is it's NOT zero, you think small things don't matter? How often does scum mess up bigtime? once in every three games? I'd rather not rely on random lynchings and claimed cop following.

Small things do matter. There's a difference between small things and "things that aren't reasons but were thrown in to make my post look more impressive because I don't have a real argument".

Also: Mith, you really like linking to other games where you pick apart people's posts. Are you trying to intimidate us?

~shrug~ If I have something to illustrate a point, I'll use it. In this case though, it doubles as a guide to how I play, as I haven't ever played with quite a few of you.

And I have to say if I ever saw a bandwagon groing too fast for the evidence available it's the one against Coron.

[Coron]

I'll note here that I would probably vote for Coron just based on *his* posting style; the difference is, I could go into detail what elements of his style are scummy

isn't that basically what I was doing?

(several cases of False Dilemma,

I'm not sure I understand

quite emotional

me emotions? phhh that's silly

noncommittal,

(bolding done by me) MAY I ASK YOU IF WE ARE PLAYING THE SAME GAME in HOW many posts have I changed my votes? I don't think I've even ever UNVOTED THIS GAME.

lots of little non-content comments

This is ligitimately true! Too bad I'm always like that EXCEPT for sometimes when I'm scum(see african mafia where I didn't really say much)

[Desperate Heart]

2nd trimester at my highschool is ending, and consequently I had lots of super exciting academic drudgery to wade through. I think I almost failed english

Also, I will

unvote

.

I'll probably vote for PB later on. Need to decide between him and Coron though.

[Fuldu]

Coron, you were

trying

to delve into which elements of Aelyn's style were scummy, but you began by refusing to do so, saying that everyone should look and they'd see for themselves, and then grumbling when you finally followed through and did it. And when your detailed list looks like it does, it doesn't exactly suggest that you're any good at it. mith, on the other hand recognizes that accurately explaining your concerns is useful for everyone and does it in a cogent and thorough manner. I don't agree with everything he's said, but I can respect and understand the reasons he's making them.

False Dilemma: The main error of this sort that I see in your "argument" is the notion that a player must either be helping the town or be scum. Your suggestion that Aelyn is suspicious because he FOSed Peachy, who (in your view) was helping the town falls under this point, as does the notion that Aelyn has made a lot of useless posts and must therefore be scum. I would point you to the recently completed Long Winter game for examples of why this is a False Dilemma. Pretty much every town player, and possibly especially the two of us, was pro-town but taking actions that pretty consistently helped scum.

Also, I would note that you've made a lot of non-useful posts yourself, especially of the "C'mon, anybody who doesn't understand my argument and doesn't see what I see is scum" variety. You even admit to as much in your most recent post. If it's scummy in somebody else, why is it okay when you do it?

And yes, you have been playing very emotionally. In fact, the sentence just after you deny being emotional devolves into yelling at mith in all-caps. I'd consider that an emotional response. Also, claiming to have cracked a door while posting suggests emotionality to me. Perhaps others would disagree.