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Post Post #275 (ISO) » Fri May 08, 2009 5:48 am

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LGB post 81: while I agree with policy lynch of a certain anti-town player. Day 1 is meant for discussion to find scum. Not for quick lynches.
I don't think that I was advocating a quick lynch, just advocating a policy lynch of a certain two people

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Post Post #276 (ISO) » Fri May 08, 2009 5:51 am

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LeakingGoofball wrote:
LGB post 81: while I agree with policy lynch of a certain anti-town player. Day 1 is meant for discussion to find scum. Not for quick lynches.
I don't think that I was advocating a quick lynch, just advocating a policy lynch of a certain two people
Why do you believe those players are anti-town.
I have been in a few games with zwet and I consider him a wild card. A bit crazy and likes to stir things up but sometimes what he does finds scum.
Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.
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Post Post #277 (ISO) » Fri May 08, 2009 6:21 am

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Empking wrote:
LunaLouise wrote:

Past tense. Something that had already happened..
Does that matter?
Yes. Like I said in the post you quoted, by writing in the past tense Tarhalindur emphasised that he noticed ZazieR's way of writing before she brought it up and that he found it to be wishy-washy all along. That in turn suggests that Tarhalindur didn't feel it was the time to bring it up, because if it was simply a case of not finding it nearly as wishy-washy as AceMarksman's post, he probably just would have said that.
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Post Post #278 (ISO) » Fri May 08, 2009 7:28 am

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Done:

ZWET post 130: what? I don't get what you are saying here.
zwet post 132: Could you do with a little less childishness here. I feel like this is a no you comment. (roll eyes)
ace: post 139: why didn't you look at your PM for confirmation before posting this?
tar post 150: you do know that a few games you pointed out I was scum so if I wasn't really joking as much in any of those games how is my joking scummy?
tar post 151: no. It's fake. If i posted crap and made a flub reason for voting would you consider that scum hunting?
zazie post 159: How do you think it was a misunderstanding. Why do you think that Ace didn't look at his PM to confirm if their was instructions or not.
LGB post 182: Note to self didn't expand on his vote or reasoning for vote any further and stands by a policy lynch rather then scum hunting.
I'd like to know why tar points to only 3 people to make cases. There are plenty of people I found who either vote erraticly (zwet) post and vote with back and forth comments that make me hit my head on the desk (emp and darox) and little to no comments for others (LGB) and since I know who LGB actual is yay I expect a bit more just like people expect more from me.
mastin post 245 and others: Why do you think the number of post actually mean anything. I have seen town post less then stellar comments. I have seen scum come in strong and agressive so please explain how any of that is not a null tell.
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zwet: post 259 OMG I agree with you. Call's hell ask if everything is okay down there.
Luna post 262: has some obseravations but I really don't see who she thinks is scum in this post. Why 2 FOS and no votes or strong conclusions?


I just realized Emp has been really quiet this game. Darox is all over the place for me and I can't get a solid read on him or zwet.
Mastin's big post was meh and reason's were meh. I can't tell you the number of times I see scum or town post different from day to day or game to game. It really isn't a big tell in my book.
So far LGB still leads the pack as my biggest suspect based on his policy lynch comment and lack of scum hunting that has gone no where.
zwet and darox running circles as they are is in my highly questionable category.
Ace's comment and saying he didn't check his PM could be a scum tactic to find information about what the PM's say. I don't like it.
I haven't seen much but question for Zazie and although aggressive I feel it is missing something when I read her post.
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Post Post #279 (ISO) » Fri May 08, 2009 9:56 am

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Luna wrote:No, quoting you shows nothing besides that I read along.
Read along, posted nothing-->Lurking, doesn't it? :/
Need more time and posts to assess his play.
HINT:
I'm a hard read. My post style is considered inheritantly scummy by some, and incredibly pro-town by others.
(Also, there isn't much of a need--I get nk'd n1 so often that there really isn't much of a point to read a dead-man-walking. :P)
Tar wrote: Extremely verbose, extremely analytical regardless of alignment.
I've never been scum in a real game, Tar... (688 doesn't count)
You can't say regardless of alignment when I haven't been scum... :/
(But you're right. It is generally my playstyle)
Has a supertell that is very similar to ZazieR's - I want to see some major posts out of him soon, so that I can get a solid read. (I'm not going to tell you what it is now, of course - I'm not going to allow meta subversion before I have a good read.)
I seriously am wondering what tell that is. Breadcrumbing? Sorry, can't do that 'til tomorrow, since I don't know what I do. :P (...If I can. I swear, people practically policy night-kill me these days. >_>)
But, really, I haven't finished many games, yet. My style is constantly changing, so what you think my super tell is, I'll be curious to know about.
Now, where the hell did everyone go? Mod, can we have a MASSPROD?
My fault. I'm in lots of games.
(If you want meta, check my play in Day 4 of Medieval, where I sat on a good deal on information until I was confident that I had extracted as much supporting information as possible.)
I skimmed the first seventy pages of that and read all the rest in great detail, Tar, so I know what you're talking about. ;)
Farside wrote:mastin post 245 and others: Why do you think the number of post actually mean anything. I have seen town post less then stellar comments. I have seen scum come in strong and agressive so please explain how any of that is not a null tell.
It shows devotion to the game, amongst others. If they are, or aren't actually playing. I've seen scum replace out of games and show less interest FAR more often than not.
Mastin's big post was meh and reason's were meh. I can't tell you the number of times I see scum or town post different from day to day or game to game. It really isn't a big tell in my book.
It is to me.

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Post Post #280 (ISO) » Fri May 08, 2009 9:59 am

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mastin wrote:I'm a hard read. My post style is considered inheritantly scummy by some, and incredibly pro-town by others.
(Also, there isn't much of a need--I get nk'd n1 so often that there really isn't much of a point to read a dead-man-walking. )
I don't like this part at all. It's basically giving meta excuse for anything scummy you say.
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Post Post #281 (ISO) » Fri May 08, 2009 10:22 am

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Mod, note my sig. I'll try to post some, but I'll be rather inundated
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Post Post #282 (ISO) » Fri May 08, 2009 10:38 am

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Farside, nice useless analysis of the JOKE stage which means nothing.
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Post Post #283 (ISO) » Fri May 08, 2009 10:54 am

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You consider post 262 part of the joke stage?
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Post Post #284 (ISO) » Fri May 08, 2009 10:57 am

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Ace wrote:I don't like this part at all. It's basically giving meta excuse for anything scummy you say.
Ah, but it's true, isn't it?
Hohum, 735, was somehow convinced I was scum.
Scien and Dourgrim, 735, also had doubts.
Ting, 742, thought I was suspicious.
YOU, 742, thought I was scum.
Mikek, 763, thought I was suspicious.
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X thought I was pro-town,
The rest of the town lynched Kublai Khan instead of me because they believed me,
Most players in 763 came to realize I was pro-town...

You get the idea.
I'm merely stating a fact:
Most people have always had trouble discerning my alignment, while others instantly knew that I was who I said I was.
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Post Post #285 (ISO) » Fri May 08, 2009 11:00 am

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I still don't like the fact that you claimed that without provocation. It looks like you are being slightly paranoid and feel the need to justify even
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Post Post #286 (ISO) » Fri May 08, 2009 11:02 am

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Ace wrote:I still don't like the fact that you claimed that without provocation.
Why hide the truth if you have nothing to hide? Sure, if you're a cop or doctor or something, I can understand, but I don't even know what role I am yet. So why hide it?
It looks like you are being slightly paranoid and feel the need to justify even future actions.
I was warning Luna about the truth.
I warned Tar of something very similar earlier.
Did you just ignore that?
Apparently, Ace.
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Post Post #287 (ISO) » Fri May 08, 2009 11:05 am

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No, I haven't ignored it. Moreover, it gives me slight scum vibes. I've played with you before when you were town, and you didn't feel the need to come out unprovoced and say that some people find your playstyle scummy.
@hiding the truth: You not saying it wouldn't be hiding the truth, as it would show naturaly in your playstyle. You feeling the need to share it, however, is giving pre-facto (making up terms what?) explanations for future actions.
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Post Post #288 (ISO) » Fri May 08, 2009 12:09 pm

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I don't like that ZEEnon has voluntarily requested to be replaced out, even more so because I haven't seen that same request elsewhere. It a lousy thing to do to the town, especially when there are still outstanding issues and questions that he should address that will never be answered.
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Post Post #289 (ISO) » Fri May 08, 2009 12:26 pm

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Ace wrote:I've played with you before when you were town, and you didn't feel the need to come out unprovoced and say that some people find your playstyle scummy.
...Because I didn't have any completed games to prove it, and the very statement of it would've been wifom. It was far less true back then. I couldn't prove I was the cop in 735 (a then-ongoing game), where I had a similar playstyle, but I told you, in-thread, that you had my word I was telling the truth.

This is just the same stuff, only with a slightly more experienced version of me.
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Post Post #290 (ISO) » Fri May 08, 2009 10:31 pm

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zwetschenwasser wrote:Farside, nice useless analysis of the JOKE stage which means nothing.
You don't think it was at all useful?
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Post Post #291 (ISO) » Sat May 09, 2009 3:46 am

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zwetschenwasser wrote:Farside, nice useless analysis of the JOKE stage which means nothing.
You look like all you have done is joke all game. :?
Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.
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Post Post #292 (ISO) » Sat May 09, 2009 4:10 am

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Bump
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Post Post #293 (ISO) » Sat May 09, 2009 4:46 am

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semioldguy wrote:I don't like that ZEEnon has voluntarily requested to be replaced out, even more so because I haven't seen that same request elsewhere. It a lousy thing to do to the town, especially when there are still outstanding issues and questions that he should address that will never be answered.
Doesn't the mere fact that he's requesting replacement at this pressuring stage solidify opinions that he's scum?
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Post Post #294 (ISO) » Sat May 09, 2009 1:24 pm

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Mastin wrote:
Ace wrote:I still don't like the fact that you claimed that without provocation.
Why hide the truth if you have nothing to hide? Sure, if you're a cop or doctor or something, I can understand, but I don't even know what role I am yet. So why hide it?
What made you say this?
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Post Post #295 (ISO) » Sat May 09, 2009 2:20 pm

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Empking wrote:Bump
What made you say this?
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Post Post #296 (ISO) » Sat May 09, 2009 9:25 pm

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zwetschenwasser wrote:
Empking wrote:Bump
What made you say this?
I don't like it being below bulk lots of locked threads.
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Post Post #297 (ISO) » Sun May 10, 2009 12:46 am

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Post Post #298 (ISO) » Sun May 10, 2009 1:29 am

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Why not post something useful instead of just "bump"?
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Post Post #299 (ISO) » Sun May 10, 2009 1:30 am

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semioldguy wrote:Why not post something useful instead of just "bump"?
I had the second to last post in the thread.

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