Mini 686 - Chess Mafia (Done)

[Indigo Heron]

move: Qe2

I think this move is relatively straightforward. The other alternate move: gxf4 invites Black to attack our right flank.

[Goatrevolt]

Qe2 is a bad move. I can show the line if needed, but it's not the play here.

move gxf4

[Lawrencelot]

move gxf4

. I want our pawn back.

[sirdanilot]

gxf4 seems better

[veerus]

Qe2 opens us up to fxg3 which puts unneccesarily dangerous pressure on the knight.

move: gxf4

[Indigo Heron]

You guys are being very materialistic. This is one of those 'make-or-break' moments. Right now, one of the worst things we can do is 21. gxf4. This would break up the pawn structure, and all Black has to do is to simply focus their attack on our right flank, and we're done for.

I don't say that it is the worst thing to do, since that dubious honour goes to anything that has nothing to do with countering the pawn's threat.

Besides, I foresee White easily playing gxf4 later on.

[veerus]

Our pawn structure will be broken either way.

However,

unmove

. fxg3 may not be as damaging as it first looked. I'll have to examine the possibilities.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Our pawn structure on the King's side is blown anyway.

move: gxf4

Also

vote:Indigo Heron

[The Central Scrutinizer]

This is a no-brainer, folks. Just look at the damn board.

[Awesome Pants]

Good news! Emptyger is replacing Max! Also, no prods are needed at the moment.

[EmpTyger]

Can anyone provide a reason for me to read the thread?

[Indigo Heron]

Not right now, no. Right now, we're just moving White's pieces and pawns, but I wouldn't doubt it if we resorted to lynchings to try and beat Black (considering the way this game is going).

[Lawrencelot]

Can anyone provide a reason for me to read the thread?

Not unless/until we decide to start lynching people.

[sirdanilot]

You don't need to read the thread yet.

[Goatrevolt]

Read the thread or we will lynch you unceremoniously.

unmove

I missed a nice move in my line against Qe2, so I shall reevaluate.

[EmpTyger]

Move: gxf4

IH:

move: Qe2

I think this move is relatively straightforward. The other alternate move: gxf4 invites Black to attack our right flank.

What? Qe2 *allows* Black to do fxg3 and attack the right flank. How is that better to you than an "invitation"?

[Indigo Heron]

We do gxf4....

21. gxf4 Bd6 22. Ne5 Bxh1 23. Rxh1 Qh4 24. Rf1 Qxh2+.

[Indigo Heron]

How can you not see the attack coming?!

[EmpTyger]

IH:

We do gxf4....

21. gxf4 Bd6 22. Ne5 Bxh1 23. Rxh1 Qh4 24. Rf1 Qxh2+.

How can you not see the attack coming?!

Because I don’t see us playing Ne5.

But, how can you not see 21. Qe2 fxg3 coming?
You say gxf4 is bad because it “breaks up the pawn structure and all Black has to do is to simply focus their attack on our right flank". How does Qe2 not do that even more so?

[Indigo Heron]

Really? You don't play Ne5, and see what happens.

[Abstract Actuary]

Can we get a move count? And how many does it take to finish a move?

At first I thought Qe2 was terrible and gxf4 was the obvious choice, but I now agree with Indigo Heron.

21. gxf4 Bd6

If 22. Ne5, then 22. ... Bxh1 and we are down the exchange to a pawn and what could be more. LOL, I wish we would have broken the pin instead of playing Re1.

If 22. other, then 22. Bxf4 and we've lost that pawn anyway.

However, after

21. Qe2 fxg3
22. Bxe4 dxe4
23. Qxe4 and we lost that pawn, but have a chance to get it back.

[MafiaSSK]

Can we get a move count? And how many does it take to finish a move?

Yes, you may. In the next post. It still takes 5 to move.

[MafiaSSK]

Move Count

gxf4 (3):Lawrencelot, The Central Scruitinizer,EmpTyger
Qe2 (1): Indigo Heron

Person Count

Indigo Heron (1):The Central Scruitnizer

Also, prodding Mastin.

[Mastin]

We need to use the pawn to capture--
It's not guarding anything.

The Queen, however, is, and using her to capture it would leave her exposed.
Not going to hammer it, yet.

[Abstract Actuary]

Can we get a move count? And how many does it take to finish a move?

Yes, you may. In the next post. It still takes 5 to move.

Thanks!

We need to use the pawn to capture--
It's not guarding anything.

The Queen, however, is, and using her to capture it would leave her exposed.
Not going to hammer it, yet.

1. e4 c5 2. Nc3 Nc6 3. f4 e6 4. Nf3 f5 5. exf5 exf5 6. Qe2 Be7 7. Nd5 Nb4 8. Nxb4 cxb4 9. d4 Nf6 10. Qc4 a6 11. Bd2 b5 12. Qd3 O-O 13. Qxf5 d5 14. Qd3 Ne4 15. g3 Bf5 16. Qb3 Nxd2 17. Kxd2 Be4 18. Re1 Kh8 19. Qe3 g5 20. Bd3 gxf4 21. gxf4 Bd6

And now we will lose the pawn back, unless we play Ne5, in which case we will lose the rook. We do have the option not to capture back on this move.


Because of this, I will

Move: Qe2