dothefanfango (2) CDB, bgg
Kichirou (1) Cancer
Snow White (1) crazy
Not voting (1) dothefandango
crazypianist1116 wrote:So much stuff has happened. A lot of it surprised me. But I have made a few observations.
Vote: Snow White
Meji Fan was the sole person to vote for Snow White. Snow White, seeing that Meji Fan was the only one who suspected her, would want to kill Meji Fan to cut out those suspicions.
It might also be because he's got two votes on him. He's anxious to save his skin. Not necessarily pro or anit-town.I think DTF is very suspicious today as well. In day 1 he barely talked at all, yet when he made a reason-less vote which caused a lynch, he talks a ton.
I tend to get answers quicker with votes. In addition, I didn't want to cast another vote on DTF, after what happened to Kard.I too would like to hear why you're voting for me. I don't think CancerBottle needed to vote just to hear your reasons though, he could have merely asked you.Kichirou wrote:I'm not quite sure what you two are talking about but I have my own theories Vote: crazypianist1116
I disagree with this. It is entirely possible that scum killed Meji for reasons independent of Snow White. For example: scum thought meji had good logic and might be a threat later; scum wanted to kill meji because they thought that a hypothetical doctor might not protect her. That sort of thing. But the key point is that it all comes down to outguessing the scum, which is dangerous. Speculating about motives for nightkills doesn't rely on the facts of what people have said, and as such it isn't an effective way to find scum.dothefandango wrote:Ok, back for a bit, this is what I have to say:
Meji died, her vote was for Snow, the only one. Two reasons why this could have happened: Frame Snow / Protect Snow.
This is rather suspicious. Suspicions weren't really placed on me last round. Your logic is rather weak. Additionally the fact that you didn't explain your vote for me at all is scummy. It makes me want toKichirou wrote:I agree with snow someone was trying to frame her and push the magnifying glass away from them self so who was the person who had suspicions placed on them last round? Kard and Crazy we know it wasn't the Kard so that leaves Crazy and what do you know snow was voting for him.
As noted above, I would love to hear everyone's thoughts on the origin on the Kard bandwagon. Read up, the history before Kard's weird Unvote/Vote sequence is the most intriguing. Look at who was on the block and look at who no one was questioning at the end of the day? I don't want to point any figure yet -- but the FoS is quivering.Snow White wrote:Other than Meji Fan's death what else is there to go on atm?
I'm saying it as an IC.Snow White wrote:@CDB. Are you saying that as scum or as a player?
Yes, but why I am I suspicious for pointing out the alternatives? This is not a good FoS. My point is that while you could be right, there's no way to be at all sure on it because it all comes down to what the scum was thinking, and that's not something that we have a copy of in the thread to analyse. There are all sorts of possibilities, some but by no means all involve your reasoning, and we can't rule any of them in or out with any degree of certainty. Speculating about the nightkills is a very poor alternative to analysing posts.Snow White wrote:It is also too, entirely possible that my reason is right.FoS ChannelDeliBird
I didn't say Meji's logic was good, nor did I say it was bad. I used the example to illustrate that there are possible reasons for a Meji kill that do not involve framing you or such like.Snow White wrote:Meji's scumdar was broken and her "logic" (as you call it CDB) was as flawed as her vote. It would have made sense to keep her around as we would have been at loggerheads again today if she had lived through the night.
That's exactly what it is. You also deal in too many definites ("would") here rather than "might", because you seem to be implying that town should have autolynched you by now or something because of Meji's death.Snow White wrote:However, if i had my finger on CP who was mafia (hypothetically) it would make sense to kill Meji, frame Snow White (who Meji was most accusational of), Snow White would be caught up in questions and unable to accuse CP and have town lynch Snow White Day2. But then what if it is WIFOM? (Reverse, reverse, reverse psychology)
But maybe that's what the mafia were hoping someone would do after they killed Meji!Snow White wrote:But co-incidentally, it was CP who first pointed out that I was Meji'sonlysuspect. Even though i had already addressed that in an earlier post. It appears as though he just came in and wrote what Mafia may had planned.
If you genuinely think CP is scum then youSnow White wrote:Of course i could be just paranoid as hell. Im not saying you should all bandwagon CP, thats your choice, but for the time being, i like my vote.
dothefandango's Lynch-1 vote yesterday on Kard for one, but I'll find some more answers to this question when it's no longer 1AM.Snow White wrote:Other than Meji Fan's death what else is there to go on atm?
Sure.dothefandango wrote:The point of starting a bandwagon, even for good purposes, is still starting a bandwagon, and I do think this sort of behavior needs to be looked at. I'm not incriminating you CDB, I just want more info on why you did it, maybe if you could sum it up in a few sentences?
1) Nobody's at Lynch -2Snow White wrote:"AHA!" DTF at potential quicklynch. L-2. Innocents please remove votes until we can talk things through.
I didn't say I found the act of OMGUS itself suspicious. It was that KardSnow White wrote:@CDB. I dont find OMGUS votes suspicious. Alot of people do it. Im even tempted to do it sometimes. Im pretty sure CP has done it to me at some point.
I absolutely implied it should be ignored, because we don't have enough in-thread evidence to support it. It's just conjecture and speculation about one of many equal possibilities. You do have to ignore things if they're not viable evidence.Snow White wrote:The way you phrased it implied my reason was to be thrown out and should be ignored. I dont think anything should be ignored.