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Post Post #675 (ISO) » Sat Jul 18, 2009 8:28 am

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Mastin, why did you lock your door?
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Post Post #676 (ISO) » Sat Jul 18, 2009 10:22 am

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Myk wrote: have you ever seen Mastin playing this way? He doesn't bring a thing
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Battousai wrote:Mastin, why did you lock your door?
Theory. To test something.

If I'm locked inside of a room, how would people during the night get to me?
They shouldn't be able to. If, for example, I were to die N1, then the flavor would tell me how.
People shouldn't be able to get through a locked door. Call it experimenting with self-protection.
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Post Post #677 (ISO) » Sat Jul 18, 2009 11:07 am

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^ In the source material, scum has a key that opens all the doors. If flavor is any guide, it's probable that locking the door is only going to keep out town PRs, if anything.

I promised I'd vote one of the main wagons today if I was still alone on Tenchi, so I'll
unvote, Vote: Kmd
. I'm really not crazy about the case against him (weird early tunnel on myko, weirder Kre attack), but I don't like the case on myko (the doublevote post) much at all, so he's winning by default. I agree that myko's posts can give a kinda bad feeling sometimes, but reading him here gives me the same impression as I got when I read the WoT mini, so I'm considering that null.
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Post Post #678 (ISO) » Sat Jul 18, 2009 11:43 am

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Looker, Tenchi, MM, and Don (Don, no problem if you don't know yet):
Who is a better lynch between Myko and myself?
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Post Post #679 (ISO) » Sat Jul 18, 2009 12:01 pm

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Iec wrote:^ In the source material, scum has a key that opens all the doors. If flavor is any guide, it's probable that locking the door is only going to keep out town PRs, if anything.
They do? :/

Well, we'll find out eventually.

How about, as an experiment, everyone tries to lock themselves into their own individual rooms?

I'd think that would be very enlightening if we can do it.
I promised I'd vote one of the main wagons today if I was still alone on Tenchi, so I'll unvote, Vote: Kmd. I'm really not crazy about the case against him (weird early tunnel on myko, weirder Kre attack), but I don't like the case on myko (the doublevote post) much at all, so he's winning by default. I agree that myko's posts can give a kinda bad feeling sometimes, but reading him here gives me the same impression as I got when I read the WoT mini, so I'm considering that null.
Fair 'nuff. I prefer Myk, though; I see connections to Myk and others, making buddies possible.

KMD has nobody I can see linked to him. And that's a problem; if nobody's linked to him, then it's less likely he's scum.
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Post Post #680 (ISO) » Sat Jul 18, 2009 12:03 pm

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Mastin wrote: KMD has nobody I can see linked to him. And that's a problem; if nobody's linked to him, then it's less likely he's scum.
I could be SK. Don't worry though. I'm not. :P
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Post Post #681 (ISO) » Sat Jul 18, 2009 12:12 pm

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Locked and Loaded wrote: 1) Kmd4390 - Room 1: Male Restroom
3) Mastin - Room 3: Library
10) PhilyEc - Room 7: Storage Room
12) Gregory - Room 4: Hospital Room
These Players are in their rooms. Please lock them as soon as any players inside vacate the location.
GET OUT! wrote: 2) mykonian - Room 13: Exit Room
5) Looker * - Room 12: Crime Scene Room
6) Iecerint - Room 8: Great Hall
7) MafiaMann ** - Room 6: Dark Room
8) Kreriov - Room 10: Empty Room
9) Tenchi * - Room 9: Bedroom
These players need to go to their own rooms.
Exposed and in Need wrote: 4) Don_johnson
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11) Battousai
'Preciate it if you had your own rooms as well; it would appear you do not.

Bolded names need to leave their current rooms, at the very *least*.
Italicized represents a destination that needs to be gone to,
Underlined represents available destinations for those who have yet to choose a room.
Modified Mod wrote:Room 1: Male Restroom -
don_johnson

Room 2: ???

Room 4: Hospital Room -
Looker, Iecerint

Room 5: ???

Room 6: Dark Room
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Room 7: Storage Room [/i]-
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Room 8: Great Hall

Room 9: Bedroom
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Room 10: Empty Room

Room 11: ???

Room 12: Crime Scene Room

Room 13: Exit Room

Room 14: ???
Room 15: ???
Room 16: ???
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Post Post #682 (ISO) » Sat Jul 18, 2009 12:16 pm

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Room 7: Storage Room [/i]- Mykonian
Ignore the [/i]; there is not supposed to be italics there; got a little carried away with the c+p /i's.
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Post Post #683 (ISO) » Sat Jul 18, 2009 12:25 pm

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First, I was getting screamed at for locking my door. Now you want me to lock it again? Also, Don is still here according to your second to last post.
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Post Post #684 (ISO) » Sat Jul 18, 2009 1:10 pm

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Person above me i already said the person i was most suspicious of was the owner of post 662 but I am still not keen on a lynch to little has taken place.
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Post Post #685 (ISO) » Sat Jul 18, 2009 1:51 pm

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Mastin, I think it's too late to implement your plan (which appears to be that everyone goes to their room and locks the door). We actually flirted with the idea you're suggesting in the early game, but we ultimately doubted the game would be so easily breakable. Moreover, the two players without rooms are left out of the loop. I'd say that at best it lets scum WIFOM us by killing one of those two, and at worst it blocks town PR.
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Post Post #686 (ISO) » Sat Jul 18, 2009 2:06 pm

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MafiaMann wrote:Person above me i already said the person i was most suspicious of was the owner of post 662 but I am still not keen on a lynch to little has taken place.
Fair enough. We have a deadline coming up though, so we aren't going to get much more to "take place".
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Post Post #687 (ISO) » Sat Jul 18, 2009 2:26 pm

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i don't want to lynch myk, but that's because i like playing with him. i am up to page 5 and have no suspicion of him. i will try to catch up and put in some cents asap.

mod: i request deadline extension.
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Post Post #688 (ISO) » Sat Jul 18, 2009 2:26 pm

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Yes i guess you are right so

Vote: owner of post 662


Id also like an extension by the way
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Post Post #689 (ISO) » Sat Jul 18, 2009 2:28 pm

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Don, that's a terrible reason not to want to lynch someone. I suspect Camn all the time and she's one of my favorite people to play with.
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Post Post #690 (ISO) » Sat Jul 18, 2009 2:47 pm

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MafiaMann wrote:Yes i guess you are right so

Vote: owner of post 662


Id also like an extension by the way
did you just simultaneously place myk at L-1 while asking for an extension?

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Post Post #691 (ISO) » Sat Jul 18, 2009 4:18 pm

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Mastin- No. Locking the doors will not bar scum, as it is, it can only be a town hindrance. Also, everyone who is in a corridor will go to the room they last visited anyways.

Sorry I'm not scumhunting too much right now, I just think we should be getting to night now.
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Post Post #692 (ISO) » Sat Jul 18, 2009 7:49 pm

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unvote vote Mykonian
via logic of prior post
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Post Post #693 (ISO) » Sat Jul 18, 2009 8:35 pm

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Mastin wrote:Fair 'nuff. I prefer Myk, though; I see connections to Myk and others, making buddies possible.

KMD has nobody I can see linked to him. And that's a problem; if nobody's linked to him, then it's less likely he's scum.
isn't the point of being scum mostly to get as less interactions as possible? (people getting mad at you, and voting you, or people that see that you interact unnatural with one)

Mastin, a lot of connections is certainly not a scumtell.
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Post Post #694 (ISO) » Sat Jul 18, 2009 8:36 pm

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Looker wrote:
unvote vote Mykonian
via logic of prior post
that was that I had the most votes?
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Post Post #695 (ISO) » Sat Jul 18, 2009 11:33 pm

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Mastin wrote:
Myk wrote: have you ever seen Mastin playing this way? He doesn't bring a thing
Yea, well, new replacement strategy. I think I'm going to develop a new tactic:

Stop /inning for any game, 'cept for games I'm extremely interested in.
Work solely as a replacement.

And that's because, as a replacement, my posts are FAR easier to ingest. This game's a good example.
Quick skim, iso-read predecessor, first+last pages, iso-read suspects if needed.
Seems to have worked well.
no, it doesn't. You are working on incomplete information, and tunnel afterwards.
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Post Post #696 (ISO) » Sun Jul 19, 2009 4:18 am

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1) Kmd4390 (3) - Kreriov, Mykonian, Iecerint

2) mykonian (6) - PhilyEc, Battousai, Mastin, Kmd4390, Gregory, Looker

3) Mastin
4) don_johnson
5) Looker
6) Iecerint
7) MafiaMann (1) - don_johnson
8) Kreriov
9) Tenchi
10) PhilyEc
11) Battousai (1) - Tenchi
12) Gregory (1) - Mafiamann

Not voting (0)

With 12 players alive, you''ll need 7 votes to lynch.
Green indicates closest to lynch.
MafiaMann's vote wasn't counted as he didn't unvote first.


Room 1: Male Restroom - Kmd4390, don_johnson
Room 2: ???
Room 3: Library - Mastin

Room 4: Hospital Room - Gregory, Looker, Iecerint
Room 5: ???

Room 6: Dark Room - Battousai
Room 7: Storage Room - PhilyEc, Mykonian
Room 8: Great Hall
Room 9: Bedroom - Kreriov
Room 10: Empty Room
Room 11: ???

Room 12: Crime Scene Room
Room 13: Exit Room
Room 14: ???
Room 15: ???
Room 16: ???

Black means that that the door is open.
Red means that the door is closed.
Room 14 is in darkred, as it's its door in a different room, which got locked by Iecerint. So nobody, except for Iecerint (who can't use his barcode on it) can get to this door. So nobody can open this door until Iecrint unlocks his door.
Then there's purple. Room 7 also had an extra door in it. This one was opened by Mykonian. As Mykonian didn't leave this room when PhilyEc closed Room 7 and as Mykonian's door isn't locked, both Mykonian and PhilyEc can still move between these two rooms.
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Post Post #697 (ISO) » Sun Jul 19, 2009 4:34 am

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Don, you can't say that someone who can't be linked to anyone, is town.

some of you have read the story. what is the big advantage for scum?
according to what some guys said, town should be able to get a doc, cop and vig. Wouldn't that be to overpowered compared to scum?
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Post Post #698 (ISO) » Sun Jul 19, 2009 4:42 am

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As I understand it, one scum (same role as the Mod in this game) fakes her death and then hypnotizes another female player to commit the murders. The game probably won't be as breakable as that, though.

It's also possible that scum can prevent PRs by denying access to certain rooms at night (e.g. what Mastin is doing at the Library). He's claimed that he wants all of us to lock ourselves in our own rooms, presumably under the assumption that this will make us safe. I suspect his plan, especially if its only actual effect is to lock the library, is anti-town.
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Post Post #699 (ISO) » Sun Jul 19, 2009 5:17 am

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Mod does my vote not count because i cant say the name
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