MtG: Parallel Universe Mafia (fl's subgame): Game Over

[Yosarian2]

I dont see why pyro is still alive.

Why, because he's trying to lynch you, from the other game?

Question: I'm not really clear here, and I'm not sure if anyone is, but...do scum know who the scum in the other games are? Should we be looking for cross-game connections where scum in one game might be trying to defend their buddies in a different game?

[Quagmire]

Mufasa isn't scum.

[Yosarian2]

Mufasa isn't scum.

Interesting.

[Quagmire]

I'm currently voting for SpyreX, because that whole alliance thing was scummy as hell. I'm currently considering switching over to sociopath, depending on if and how he answers that question.

Vote Yosarian2

this seems way too convenient of a lynch candidate for you.

[Quagmire]

Mufasa isn't scum.

Interesting.

Also Yos this isn't one of my little inane declarations. I'm serious about Mufasa not being scum.

[Yosarian2]

Mufasa isn't scum.

Interesting.

Also Yos this isn't one of my little inane declarations. I'm serious about Mufasa not being scum.

Ok. That was me hearing and acknowledging what you were saying, and not probing for any details at this time.

Anyway, quagmire, you should know by now that I would never let anyone get away with acting in a blatently anti-town way like Spyrex was. He's basically backed down from the alliance thing, so now I'm shopping around for a new bandwagon. Any suggestions?

[Debonair Danny DiPietro]

FoS: Mufasa

Wonder if FoS' actually do anything.

Still waiting for my Ben.

[Quagmire]

Mufasa isn't scum.

Interesting.

Also Yos this isn't one of my little inane declarations. I'm serious about Mufasa not being scum.

Ok. That was me hearing and acknowledging what you were saying, and not probing for any details at this time.

Anyway, quagmire, you should know by now that I would never let anyone get away with acting in a blatently anti-town way like Spyrex was. He's basically backed down from the alliance thing, so now I'm shopping around for a new bandwagon. Any suggestions?

Not as of yet. I didn't get into this game until page 7 -- it was basically like replacing into it a few days ago. I never get the full effect of the game when I replace in until I've been in the game for a little while, you know?

[Porkens]

DDD: I like the cut of your jib; "I'm claiming day one so I don't have to play." It's what I would have done.

SpyreX: I'm not sure I want to lynch SP just yet, but color me intrigued.

Yos: I'm torn on your paranoia here. I understand where you are coming from, but I think you are over reacting . I guess it makes sense if you look at UNBREAKABLE as a literal term (Which I assumed it was not).

SocioPath: I'm going to leave my "sig" off of this post, just for you.

There are a couple of boats to jump on to at this point, but, hey; SpyreX, Zito, Yos, and, hell, Mufasa, what do you think of Flava Flave?

[Yosarian2]

[quote="Porkens"]
Yos: I'm torn on your paranoia here. I understand where you are coming from, but I think you are over reacting . I guess it makes sense if you look at UNBREAKABLE as a literal term (Which I assumed it was not).[/qutoe]

Did you see his origional post?

Not only did he talk about it as an "UNBREAKABLE ALLIANCE", he also specifically spelled out in detail that the alliance would not be broken at all unless only alliance members were left alive.

So, yeah. I was assuming that either he was scum, or that if he was town, that he was telling the truth. Neither one would have been acceptable.

[Porkens]

I see what you are saying, but I would give SpyreX the benefit of the doubt on that one.

It could be a scum gambit of some kind, but I strongly suspect that if it is; it's more complicated than creating a soft-voting block on day 1

[SpyreX]

Secrets within secrets.

How about this for discussion:

I tenatively agree with Quag about mufasa. However, I also agree with Porken's pre-sig that fell away (OHH NO WHAT NOW SOCIOPATH).

[Porkens]

Oh god, how did I forget that?

Quagmire: Are you saying that you absolutely KNOW mufasa aint scum?

Spyrex: How can you agree with the above?

---

If I were vig, I'd shoot Mufasa

[SpyreX]

Mufasa is definitely not a pick for classical "scum" at the moment in my mind - and if Sociopath is scum I'd all but bet on mufasa NOT being scum as well.

However, the play in general reeks of either neutral or VI.

[Yosarian2]

I see what you are saying, but I would give SpyreX the benefit of the doubt on that one.

Now that he's made clear he isn't serious about the whole unbreakable alliance stuff, I'm more willing to consider it.

Quagmire: Are you saying that you absolutely KNOW mufasa aint scum?

I'm wondering why you thought it was a good idea to ask that question.

[Porkens]

For me, when someone says, day one, unprovoked "I KNOW he's X," it raises a flag. I didn't ask how he knew, I'm clarifying that it isn't an opinion, but confirmed knowledge.

[Papa Zito]

"Mufasa isn't scum" != "Mufasa is town"

There are a couple of boats to jump on to at this point, but, hey; SpyreX, Zito, Yos, and, hell, Mufasa, what do you think of Flava Flave?

Inconsistent.

1. Confirm
2. Votes SpyreX for stating he's going to ignore the other games and ignoring a question.
3. Oops, unvote. Still doesn't like SpyreX avoiding other games. Mufasa and I suck for joining the glorious ALLIANCE.
4. Tar game notes
5. "Just saw that."
6. SSK game notes. "Stop looking at other games and concentrate on yours."

6 is funny because he doesn't like SpyreX for ignoring the other games, then takes the SSK crew to task for paying attention to the other games.

There's nothing else there. No really that's all his posts.

[SpyreX]

Ohh I forgot:

Flava is giving his A+ effort thus far. Much like Zazie. Much like Tajo.

We need a tactical nuke, I think is what I'm getting at.

[Yosarian2]

For me, when someone says, day one, unprovoked "I KNOW he's X," it raises a flag. I didn't ask how he knew, I'm clarifying that it isn't an opinion, but confirmed knowledge.

Eh...I'm not sure if it's really a good idea to try and clarify that just yet.

[Porkens]

For me, when someone says, day one, unprovoked "I KNOW he's X," it raises a flag. I didn't ask how he knew, I'm clarifying that it isn't an opinion, but confirmed knowledge.

Eh...I'm not sure if it's really a good idea to try and clarify that just yet.

That might be true, I guess. I really don't see how I could know either way. My issue is that ther's absolutely no reason to bring that up, even if he does somehow know. Should I just ignore it? I mean, whats the point of saying it if he doesn't expect it to be analyzed?

[Yosarian2]

That might be true, I guess. I really don't see how I could know either way. My issue is that ther's absolutely no reason to bring that up, even if he does somehow know. Should I just ignore it? I mean, whats the point of saying it if he doesn't expect it to be analyzed?

(shrug) I wasn't really planning on going after mufasa today anyway, at least not at the moment, so I was just noting it for future reference myself. Quagmire most likely knows what he's doing, he generally does. I'm glad to give him all rope he wants and what he does with it at the moment.

Now, if I really thought mufasa is scum, or if I really thought Quagmire is scum, I'd poke at it.

[populartajo]

Ok, catching up. Questions are in itallics.

First pages are the DDD-Ben thing. Page 2-3.

I like Zazie apporach in 38, seems very well reasoned. Mufasa is being more active than what I remember from him. Zito seems very scumhunting focused pressuring DDD.

Im not liking very much DDD in page 2-3. As I said, I feel like DDD is in damage control mode after Benmage town went all-in in tar's game. I also dont think DDD could get advice from Ben when backtracking of suspecting Zazie.

Zito and Spyrex are very relaxed when talking to the other.

Zito and Spyrex, this is the first game youve played together?

Spyrex is good in 66. Like his tone and his approach of the situation.

Porkens in 69 is kinda off for a first post. Asking is this a breadcrumb? and wanting to vig Mufasa.

At that point, Porkens, did you think Mufasa was most likely town, neutral or scum?

Spyrex, why did you QFT Porkens suggestion?

Page 4.

I dont get something. Why is like accepted that DDD is telling the truth? I can buy that from benmage who is being like brutally honest, but Jammer (76),

why dont you think that DDD could be scum? Porkens, same question.

Porkens, why do you insist on wanting to vig Mufasa, after he simulposted answer your questions?

Flavaflav in 94 is an agressive entrance.

Sociopath is megaavoiding the ddd-benmage thing in 98. His speculation of the Porkens sig is weak and calling Spyrex antitown feels kinda exaggerated.

His Porkens vote is interesting. Sociopath is very eager to suspect people.

Sociopath, are you always this eager?

Page 6 starts with the Unbreakable Alliance.

Spyrex is bored. I can see both town or scum doing this. I think this is null.

Okay. Yosarian in 129 disagrees with me. Very agressive vote.

Yos, do you think that this post couldnt have been made by Spyrextown?

Zito and Mufasa, the unbreakabale alliance makes you think Spyrex is more town/more scum or equal?

Im not liking Yos very much. He is being too agressive for something that shouldnt have gotten that reaction. So I think the point here is that if Im reading well Spyrex, there is nothing extremely suspicious in his Porkens, Zito and Tajo reads. Why is it bad that Spyrex gathered his better town reads in a Unbreakable Alliance?

Yos, I agree completely about Mufasa and Zito's reactions to Spy. Both scummy as hell. The strength of your opposition is a little weird too though.

Yeah, I feel this post should be important some day.

Then there is more blah blah. Same fight. Yos is being ext agressive for something that shouldnt have got that reaction.

Quag thinks Mufasa is town. Interesting conclusion, waiting for the explanation.

Conclusion in next post.

[Papa Zito]

Zito and Spyrex, this is the first game youve played together?

Yessir.

I dont get something. Why is like accepted that DDD is telling the truth?

THIS IN ALL CAPS.

Zito and Mufasa, the unbreakabale alliance makes you think Spyrex is more town/more scum or equal?

More town. I can't see scum doing this.

[populartajo]

Prob Town

Spyrex (good reasoning, relaxed tone)
Zito (good reasoning, relaxed tone)

Neutral

Mufasa (slightly leaning town for his relaxed tone)
Porkens (irrational Mufasa hate but still good)
Zazier (needs more posting)
Quagmire (needs more posting)
Sociopath (sometimes feels agressive townie, sometimes agressive scum, dunno yet)
DDD (gut tells me he is prob scum but lynch is not optymal when there are better ways to get rid of him)
jammer (dont like he clearing ddd and his defense. needs more posting)

Prob Scum

Yos (see post above)
Flavaflav (analyse if Yos is scum, dont like him concentrating in other games instead of focusing here.)

Vote : Yosarian2

[SpyreX]

As Zito answered, our first game together.

Why did I QFT Porkens in regard to Mufasa? Because mufasa is a special flower that needs bullets.

Its accepted, to me, that DDD is telling the truth because the other options make even LESS sense. Notice that I am also far, far more in favor of foisting him out of this game versus letting them get benmage here in case I am wrong.

The deal with Yos is I could very easily see town responding to what I'm doing the way he has. Scum too, but its not like a clearcut OHH GOD HE BE SCUM move.

I like your style though. Keep posting kthx.