MtG: Parallel Universe Mafia (fl's subgame): Game Over

Budja · Post Post #450 (ISO) » Fri Aug 28, 2009 1:33 pm

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@Spyrex, Porkens, my contribution isn't really so bad considering my V/La and my (comparatively) recent arrival here.

Porkens is pushing

very

hard but in a pretty pro-town way.

Re. Zaz's almost lynch, I also found Mufasa's jump onto it scummy.

Zaz, Mufasa would have to be seen by all as scummy or anti-town.
So swapping them to Tar's game would most be a scum/anti-town action.
This makes me more confident of Kairyuu/Sajin's alignments.
(Not solid logic as this is a Tar game and could have multiple scum teams/ more third party roles)

jammer · Post Post #451 (ISO) » Fri Aug 28, 2009 1:38 pm

With a big one mafia a playerswapping mafia-role would be strange as mafia know eachother with other subgames. I would not see it as fair to be able to swap.

I can not see town putting them into the game as well.

Multiple scumteams would easily be possible, I could see swapping more likely in that case. In that case I could see this swap more a good plan to input some lynch bait.
I wonder what would have happened if mufasa was lynched while the swapping was going on in tars game.

/Will read tars game, budja said almost nothing. I am guesing both of you said more then him.

Sajin · Post Post #452 (ISO) » Fri Aug 28, 2009 2:06 pm

Kairyuu- do you know anything about the swaps? Do you know why you are here?

Sajin · Post Post #453 (ISO) » Fri Aug 28, 2009 2:09 pm

One more question for kairyuu- Do you know why I am here?

SpyreX · Post Post #454 (ISO) » Fri Aug 28, 2009 2:44 pm

I could get behind a quaglynch.

Budja's post makes sense. Although I'm still trying to feel out how/who the jumps help more. Gut says scum, but if the goal is to win by filling a game and they're taking scum OUT of this game well gg us?

This new Sajin/Kai discussion better come to fruition.

Porkens · Post Post #455 (ISO) » Fri Aug 28, 2009 3:58 pm

then get put your head on it, cocktease.

SocioPath · Post Post #456 (ISO) » Fri Aug 28, 2009 4:18 pm

SocioPath wrote:Quag - Will be more clear after he posts his thoughts on people other than me.

Quag hasn't actually gone to post anything on anything other than questioning the Zaz wagon...and then waited to slip into a V/LA. Nothing about that do I like.

About the people who are no longer with us:

Zaz lynch I wouldn't have gone for at this point, but thats mainly cause search is turned off so I can't site-stalk posting records as easily.

Mufasa I would still lynch the hell out of.

At this point Quag is the best bet from my perspective.

Vote: Quagmire

SpyreX · Post Post #457 (ISO) » Fri Aug 28, 2009 6:06 pm

My head goes where it wants.

WHERE IT WANTS.

SEE!

Unvote, Vote: Quagmire

Choo choo!

I liked what he said about Mufasa, however the fact that Zaz is a.) probably scum and b.) not hung because of lollygagging is enough for this

Budja · Post Post #458 (ISO) » Fri Aug 28, 2009 6:13 pm

Spyrex wrote:Gut says scum, but if the goal is to win by filling a game and they're taking scum OUT of this game well gg us?

I doubt the swap harmed this game. We didn't lose anyone pro-town.

Sociopath wrote: At this point Quag is the best bet from my perspective.

Through elimination, he is the scummiest anyway.

Budja · Post Post #459 (ISO) » Fri Aug 28, 2009 6:18 pm

I'd like to see Quag arguement for Mufasa's towniness now he has left.

Spyrex wrote: Zaz is a.) probably scum

A lurker- yes, obv-scum- no.
It looks that zazier has a reasonable chance of being lynched in Tar's subgame.
We could slow down a bit and see what happens there..
If she is scum, I would agree that Quag does have a decent chance of also being scum.

Porkens · Post Post #460 (ISO) » Fri Aug 28, 2009 6:23 pm

Budja wrote:
Spyrex wrote:Gut says scum, but if the goal is to win by filling a game and they're taking scum OUT of this game well gg us?
I doubt the swap harmed this game. We didn't lose anyone pro-town.

Sociopath wrote: At this point Quag is the best bet from my perspective.
Through elimination, he is the scummiest anyway.

you're...

not

going to vote for the scummiest person?

Budja · Post Post #461 (ISO) » Fri Aug 28, 2009 6:26 pm

budja wrote:We could slow down a bit and see what happens there..

I fail to see what advantage we would get for a quicklynch/wagon now.

Kairyuu · Post Post #462 (ISO) » Sat Aug 29, 2009 3:13 am

Beginning my read now. Expect something up by tonight.

jammer · Post Post #463 (ISO) » Sat Aug 29, 2009 5:34 am

Budja wrote:
budja wrote:We could slow down a bit and see what happens there..
I fail to see what advantage we would get for a quicklynch/wagon now.

Wagons can be a nice way to catch some scum.

Budja, what do you think about every player in here?

Also,

Vote: Budja

Sajin · Post Post #464 (ISO) » Sat Aug 29, 2009 6:01 am

Kairyuu wrote:Beginning my read now. Expect something up by tonight.

Answer my questions.

Kairyuu · Post Post #465 (ISO) » Sat Aug 29, 2009 7:14 am

Sajin wrote:Kairyuu- do you know anything about the swaps? Do you know why you are here?

1. No.

2. No.

One more question for kairyuu- Do you know why I am here?

3. No.

Happy?

I don't honestly know what you could have expected when asking those questions. All I know is that I'm pissed that I got swapped, given that everything I had been trying to do there is now probably irreperably screwed up.

Still reading. If anyone has any other pressing questions for me, ask them. Otherwise, you can wait for my opinions until tonight.

Budja · Post Post #466 (ISO) » Sat Aug 29, 2009 12:26 pm

Jammer wrote: Wagons can be a nice way to catch some scum.

Yes, they can. But zazier is looking bad in the other game and is approaching a lynch. If they do lynch her and he flips scum, Quagmire is a better wagon. Right now, I don't see he is scummy beyond general elimination so I am less keen.

Jammer wrote: Budja, what do you think about every player in here?

Sociopath looks town, his posting is improving too and I liked his view on Mufasa.

Porkens looks town, very brash while I feel scum would be more subtle.

You and Spyrex feel townish to me. Nothing really to back it up but you are scum-hunting and not looking scummy to me.

Quagmire hasn't posted much in a while and is null.

The newcomers are content-wise null, but the point I made above increases their chance of being town.

So yes, the scummy/lurking players have left and I have no real suspects ATM.

Porkens · Post Post #467 (ISO) » Sat Aug 29, 2009 7:13 pm

Now wait a minute, Budja; are you seriously saying that Quag isn't lurking?

SpyreX · Post Post #468 (ISO) » Sat Aug 29, 2009 7:22 pm

Hold up by process of elimination who have you left?

(Hint: Vote for Quag)

Kairyuu · Post Post #469 (ISO) » Sat Aug 29, 2009 7:28 pm

Ugh. Busy day. Sleep now. Finishing read/opinions tomorrow at some point.

Budja · Post Post #470 (ISO) » Sat Aug 29, 2009 11:30 pm

Porkens wrote: are you seriously saying that Quag isn't lurking?

I didn't say that. I would call him borderline. He's been posting little, but it isn't fluff.

I'm not opposed to the lynch, but I think we could have a) Quag explaining his position on Mufasa, b) the views of the swapped and maybe even c) a Zazier flip if Tar's game lynched him soon.

jammer · Post Post #471 (ISO) » Sun Aug 30, 2009 5:12 am

Quagmire posted somewhere else on site. And somehow forgets to post here.

Unvote: Budja; Vote: Quagmire

Porkens · Post Post #472 (ISO) » Sun Aug 30, 2009 8:42 am

What would the Zaz flip tell you about Quag?

jammer · Post Post #473 (ISO) » Sun Aug 30, 2009 9:43 am

@fl, V/LA, from wednesday till friday.

Got it

forbiddanlight · Post Post #474 (ISO) » Sun Aug 30, 2009 10:46 am

You all want a VOTECOUNT, don't you?