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Post Post #150 (ISO) » Sun Sep 13, 2009 11:33 pm

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comfortable leaving my vote where it is for now.
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Post Post #151 (ISO) » Mon Sep 14, 2009 4:39 am

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@mod i unvoted the vote for starttranssmision, the vote count says i still have a vote
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Post Post #152 (ISO) » Mon Sep 14, 2009 4:55 am

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Carrick16 wrote:Think i'll go for the Crunchi/PorkchopExpress vote , before he/she got replaced the behaviour was questionable.

Extremely little to go on so far, but there you go I guess.
I agree with PP i think the new guy should be heard out first before we start placing votes.
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i believe that is called active lurking...
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Post Post #153 (ISO) » Mon Sep 14, 2009 7:35 am

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PorkchopExpress wrote:Hi, I'm replacing Crunchi. I have a schnitzel night coming up but I'll have a post up soonish.
Lol, most random reason to postpone a read/post I've heard so far.

Welcome.

And >_< 4 replacements in 2-3 days is a bit "eh".

Carrick16 wrote:Think i'll go for the Crunchi/PorkchopExpress vote , before he/she got replaced the behaviour was questionable.

Extremely little to go on so far, but there you go I guess.
Jumping on the wagon, but not really are you? If you want to vote crunchi/porkchop then why aren't you?

tubby216 wrote:comfortable leaving my vote where it is for now.
My gut tells me the same thing, but I'm going to ask you for some details.

Or perhaps not, I'll reread first and then I'll see if my gut is just on Blue.

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Mod: I think you have me and Crunchi confused. I don't think I have 3 votes against me, at least I hope not...


I missed blueraven's unvote otherwise the count is accurate.
Any reason you stopped posting content?

BlueRaven wrote:
tubby216 wrote:comfortable leaving my vote where it is for now.
i believe that is called active lurking...
Really now? Do you know what active lurking is?

Going to do a quick reread. I feel something is to be found in the thread.


@mod:
newbie games usually run a 3 week deadline and I haven't seen any note of a deadline in the first posts or your votecounts. I just want to know if you didn't forget to tell us the deadline or if we have a deadline or not. I'm not asking to apply one.
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Post Post #154 (ISO) » Mon Sep 14, 2009 8:16 am

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i think the deadline 24th september because it started on the third and 3 weeks is equal to 21 days, 3+21=24. hope that helps
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Post Post #155 (ISO) » Mon Sep 14, 2009 9:30 am

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My Milked Eek wrote:
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tubby216 wrote:comfortable leaving my vote where it is for now.
i believe that is called active lurking...
Really now? Do you know what active lurking is?
Yes, its just posting without any real content, and are usually short in length, its used for avoiding the prod rule... Or at least thats what i've been lead to believe.
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Post Post #156 (ISO) » Mon Sep 14, 2009 9:47 am

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Not to defend tubby, but why did you call him out on "active lurking" when he wasn't? Saying he is going to leave his vote where it is, isn't active lurking, especially not when there are other and more blatant examples of active lurking.

Rereading now as I forgot Lost was on.
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Post Post #157 (ISO) » Mon Sep 14, 2009 9:56 am

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i dont realy think so, if he left his vote where it was then that would be perfectly fine just to leave it there. But u guess people are entitled to their own opinion of things.
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Post Post #158 (ISO) » Mon Sep 14, 2009 9:59 am

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david-villa-7 wrote:i think the deadline 24th september because it started on the third and 3 weeks is equal to 21 days, 3+21=24. hope that helps
QFT.

Don't worry MME, I'm on top of things :) I didn't forget the deadline.

Deadline is September 24th, as DV7 observed.
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Post Post #159 (ISO) » Mon Sep 14, 2009 10:09 am

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Ok, thanks mod. Just making sure :D
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Post Post #160 (ISO) » Mon Sep 14, 2009 12:45 pm

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BlueRaven wrote:
My Milked Eek wrote:
BlueRaven wrote:
tubby216 wrote:comfortable leaving my vote where it is for now.
i believe that is called active lurking...
Really now? Do you know what active lurking is?
Yes, its just posting without any real content, and are usually short in length, its used for avoiding the prod rule... Or at least thats what i've been lead to believe.
true but by simply stating that i am comfortable with my vote on you blue does two things.

1) alow me the chance to veiw you reaction. wich in my opinion you reacted poorly, and soo i may even bring a case to get you lynched.

2) secondly it lets other people know that i think you suspicious enough to warrant a vote. wich in turn provokes thought and disscussion.


But the reason my vote is staying on you is i believe you are trying to hard. First there was the f.o.s of MME wich i felt was a bit of a stretch. Once that failed you swung the finger at me basically saying "lurker scum get him!!"

so yah i a comfortable with my vote on you
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Post Post #161 (ISO) » Mon Sep 14, 2009 4:19 pm

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Ugh, the room is still sort of spinning (even if it has slowed down a lot). Schnitty night turned out to be something of a rollercoaster, and I'm still not sure what set me off. :?

So far, I've played/playing in:
Newbie 761 (Scum win - Killed Night 1)
Newbie 776 (Scum win - Survived to endgame and then lynched the Doc.)
Newbie 808 (Scum win. Survived to endgame and was suckered by a good claim.)
Newbie 832 (Ongoing. Killed Night 1)
Open 164 (Ongoing.)

I've been in 4 games on another website. Three with some really funky rule variants. I've also played some face to face Mafia.

Quick thoughts:
-Activity does not indicate towniness. Content is key.
CONTENT!
. While linked, they are not inherently the same thing, see?

- I think Crunchi was a pretty obvious newb from reread.

- I'm not getting good vibes from Blueraven. His posts are virtually devoid of content and he's trying to pin active lurking on Tubby.
Vote: Blueraven


- Rayfrost has made a big deal about his rampant activity, when about less than half of it could be classified as scumhunting. Could be misdirection at work.

- I'm not sure that rusty's reply to startran. was as "clearly" a chainsaw defence as was made out. At least, to begin with. In my opinion, it doesn't get ugly until rusty suggests that startran thinks lurkers are scum, by default. This clearly isn't his stance.

- Carrick16 is not scumhunting. Mostly he's made posts commenting on how there is so little to go on, and does jack squat about trying to drum up discussion.
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Post Post #162 (ISO) » Mon Sep 14, 2009 8:32 pm

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._." I didn't make a big deal of it, imo. I gave a possible explanation of why I was active.

I don't really have any idea of how to scum hunt, so I just do/type what comes to mind.

What is your opinion of MME, porky the train? You seem to have missed him.

As it is, I find crunchi = obv. newb thing to be very dismissive, and I don't really like the newb card being called (especially considering that I, myself, am a newb yet get no slack, but eh... I'd prefer no slack all around).

carrick is suspicious, but...

ash is a little more suspicious, imo. he focused on crunchi but didn't really make an attempt to apply pressure, which kinda defeats the purpose of being suspicious towards somebody. I find that to be a little scummy, along with the whole being worried about "posting too much" when posting is part of what helps town figure out their reads.
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Post Post #163 (ISO) » Mon Sep 14, 2009 8:33 pm

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Oh, forgot to...

FoS: Ash


Not vote worthy, but certainly FoS worthy.
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Post Post #164 (ISO) » Mon Sep 14, 2009 9:41 pm

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Official Vote Count

PorkchopExpress(2): startransmission, My Milked Eek

BlueRaven(2): tubby216, Porkchopexpress
david-villa-7(1): RayFrost
Carrick16(1) purple princess

Not Voting(3): Carrick16, BlueRaven, david-villa-7


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Post Post #165 (ISO) » Mon Sep 14, 2009 9:45 pm

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oh, wait... I'm voting for him? O.o"

unvote
my case isn't that good.
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Post Post #166 (ISO) » Tue Sep 15, 2009 2:08 am

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Reread! And notes time:

>> BlueRaven

#139 - Trying too hard to incriminate me.

#156 - He's not active lurking. By saying he keeps his vote, he is sharing information. You're trying too much again.


>> carrick16

#047 - Why is this the only thing you posted? If you played a few times, then surely you understand the importance of posting content?

#055 - Can't believe I missed this.
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Rustyshark - Extremely shaky first post which points towards him being a goon unless he has friggin aspergers syndrome.
"
By goon, you mean, mafia goon right? And why "goon"?

#070 - What were you thinking when replying? "Oh, there's someone lurking and there are non-random votes thrown around, but let me answer this one question that has no relevance to the game".

#083 & #084 - "Let me answer the response to my previous post, I don't care about the continued lurking and the chainsaw defense."

#147 - Eh?

>> crunchi

#061 - Obvious lurking happening.

#074 - Undecisiveness to an opinion about some players.


>> purple princess

#054 - I like the rvs over asap, letting it run its own course is an uncommitted way to approach the game and reeks of setting up an excuse for scummy behavior during the rvs when called upon later.

#065 - I've never really liked questions like these. Makes me think the person asking them is trying to appear protown and active while the person isn' going to do anthing with th reactions and answers to the questions. The questions themselves are pretty non-relevant. The timing of the questions as well (after Crunchi's post in response to star) has me a bit worrying about attention diversion, especially since there's only one question about lurking in her set and it's a rather biased question.

#102 - Good posting and I agree with most parts of your conclusions.




>> rayfrost

#043 - There wasn't really a debate. And I'm not really getting the intent of this post. Are you telling us why you aren't posting (which you were) or are you giving bmc reasons/excuses as to why he hasn't posted yet?

#046 - Unvoting "because the rvs ended" is a lame reason to unvote. Was there any reason as to why you unvoted pp?


>> rustyshark

#030 - "
Start making mistakes so we can lynch you.
". I know I've gone over this before, but I still don't like that line (and the entire post either). It's trying too much.

#078 - Pretty obvious chainsaw defense. Even to the point of finding crunchi town. Sure, she could be town, but her behaviour is actually screaming "scummy" and at the least "antitown".



>>> Conclusions:

> Carrick is active lurking. Heavily. Not liking his play in general.

> Blueraven is my main suspect. Let me explain:
* Accuses people of wrongly accusing people, but then doesn't go through with it.
* Attempt to incriminate someone #1
* Attempt to incriminate someone #2
* Attempt to incriminate someone #3
* A lot of fluff content. Check his iso
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posts.

Unvote. Vote: BlueRaven





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Post Post #167 (ISO) » Tue Sep 15, 2009 2:13 am

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In response to MME:

I didn't think PP was scummy enough to have a vote, pressure or otherwise. Thus, that, in combination with it no longer being RVS, led to an unvote.

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Post Post #168 (ISO) » Tue Sep 15, 2009 2:15 am

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RayFrost wrote:In response to MME:

I didn't think PP was scummy enough to have a vote, pressure or otherwise. Thus, that, in combination with it no longer being RVS, led to an unvote.

I was giving
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Ok, I thought so already, but I had to make sure.

Anything you want to note about my post?
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Post Post #169 (ISO) » Tue Sep 15, 2009 2:27 am

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One:

I agree on the reads of carrick/blueraven being scummy, but why do you choose to vote for blueraven when you generally don't like carrick's play?

Also, what are your conclusions for the other players?

aaaaand... it's missing tubby & Porky the train as well as startrans got anything on them?
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Post Post #170 (ISO) » Tue Sep 15, 2009 2:38 am

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MME you left me out. This saddens the fat guy :(
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Post Post #171 (ISO) » Tue Sep 15, 2009 2:52 am

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People not included I have rather good reads on and/or no questions for or notes about.

Why I picked BlueRaven above Carrick:
My gut is yelling louder on his name at the moment.

Do know and note that I don't like both carricks as ravens play.
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Post Post #172 (ISO) » Tue Sep 15, 2009 5:05 am

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tubby216 wrote:
BlueRaven wrote:
My Milked Eek wrote:
BlueRaven wrote:
tubby216 wrote:comfortable leaving my vote where it is for now.
i believe that is called active lurking...
Really now? Do you know what active lurking is?
Yes, its just posting without any real content, and are usually short in length, its used for avoiding the prod rule... Or at least thats what i've been lead to believe.
true but by simply stating that i am comfortable with my vote on you blue does two things.

1) alow me the chance to veiw you reaction. wich in my opinion you reacted poorly, and soo i may even bring a case to get you lynched.

2) secondly it lets other people know that i think you suspicious enough to warrant a vote. wich in turn provokes thought and disscussion.


But the reason my vote is staying on you is i believe you are trying to hard. First there was the f.o.s of MME wich i felt was a bit of a stretch. Once that failed you swung the finger at me basically saying "lurker scum get him!!"

so yah i a comfortable with my vote on you
if you dont realise we only have 9 days till lynch. And i dont like the fact that we arnt any closer to getting a lynch.
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Post Post #173 (ISO) » Tue Sep 15, 2009 5:09 am

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My Milked Eek wrote:Any reason you stopped posting content?
I apologize, I've had a hectic weekend. I'll get back on this momentarily.
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Post Post #174 (ISO) » Tue Sep 15, 2009 5:10 am

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pst, hey blue,

If you haven't noticed i am voting you, wich means i would you to be lynched. Further more you are at l-2 wich means two more votes and you are todays lynch. So i believe we have found todays lynch. Oh and bonus we have 9 days to spare.
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