Newbie 838 (Game Over!)

[purple princess]

Yes, I put off my reread of Ash... to the next sentence! Did you even bother to read beyond that. You know, to the part where I give my analysis of Ash's ever-so slender play. Here's the rest of the Ash stuff.

@Ray:
I'll reread Ash and get back to you... and back. Ash is doing nothing to follow through on the few opinions that he has given. Given that he replaced in, I would understand, but he puts in plenty of fluffy posts right to the point of wondering out loud if he is posting too much.

Yes I did bother to read your read on Ash, I didn't really get anything from it to be honest with you, it just seems like you put that together because you had to write something.

[Nikanor]

I'm not dead yet, I'm at work. I WILL be posting an analysis on Porkchop/Crunchi by the end of today, though.

[PorkchopExpress]

Yes I did bother to read your read on Ash, I didn't really get anything from it to be honest with you, it just seems like you put that together because you had to write something.

And you chose to act like I had said nothing about Ash because?

[Nikanor]

*Slacks off, not completing his Porkchop analysis tonight.*

[My Milked Eek]

*makes a remark about nikanor slacking off and applies some hotheaded pressure*

[Nikanor]

*recoils under the pressure and starts working again*

[My Milked Eek]

*makes an agitated remark about the duration of said work*

[purple princess]

And you chose to act like I had said nothing about Ash because?

Because I didn't get a good or bad vibe from your post about Ash, imo in this post you don't really seem to be for or against Ash.

[PorkchopExpress]

Indeed, except that wasn't what you criticised me for. You accused me of putting off a read of Ash, rather than delivering one that was not to your satisfaction. Also, ignores the rising suspicion demonstrated by the questions to FoS, and then the vote. Of course, I shouldn't be suprised by this since most of your argument ignores the run of play.

[Nikanor]

So, upon reading Porkchop's posts in iso, I have come to the conclusion that he is most likely town. I'm not going to go posting all my towntells in this topic, but I will say that his defense against pp's attack is solid, and impacts positively on my opinion of him. If you need more justification, fine, I'll give you some, but don't expect me to post EVERYTHING, because I won't.
The main problem points I have when it comes to Porkchop are Crunchi's posts (unsurprisingly), but even her play can be mostly attributed to newbtown. The only post of Crunchi's that I really have a problem with is her iso 7, where she fencesits on both rustyshark and his target (startrans) simultaneously.
I believe the accidental hammer on DV7 can be considered a nulltell. Here we have four possible scenarios, ordered from most to least likely:
a) Town, accidentally hammered. This seems the most likely, by process of elimination.
b) Scum, accidentally hammered. This is plausible, but I doubt Porkchop would be so careless as to forget what the L-count on his partner was.
c) Scum, pretended to accidentally hammer. Why? Scum would get more town credit for hammering his partner than he would for putting him at L-1.
d) Town, pretended to accidentally hammer. Why? That sounds like something

I

would do, but it still makes no sense.

Also, for MME's sake: When I said I had completed half of my Porkchop analysis, I really meant that I had completed the Crunchi analysis. I figured you were going to say something about this, so I decided to pre-empt you. I hope you don't mind!

[My Milked Eek]

>=(

Also, by not listing porkchops towntells and by giving us tubby's report, do you find tubby scummier than porkchop or to put it differently, do you find porkchop to be more town than tubby?

[Nikanor]

do you find tubby scummier than porkchop or to put it differently, do you find porkchop to be more town than tubby?

For the moment being, this is correct. I have yet to review rustyshark/DV7's posts, though, to look for connections (or lack thereof, in startrans's case).

[startransmission]

^I'm not sure what you mean by that. And I would very much like to know more about why you feel Porkchop is town.

Well, sorry to be so quiet lately. I'm anxiously awaiting a replacement for Blue, and Nikanors Tubby review.

[Nikanor]

Nikanors Tubby review.

Nikanor's tubby review is here.
Also, what confuses you about that post you mentioned? When you ask for clarification, please try to be clear.
I'll write some stuff about why I think Porkchop is town now.

[startransmission]

Nikanor's tubby review is here.

Yeah, I meant the Ash/possible partner analysis. Sorry.

And I was wondering about the "lackthereof" regarding me and rusty/ashes connections...? I think I know what you mean, but I'm not 100%.

[Nikanor]

And I was wondering about the "lackthereof" regarding me and rusty/ashes connections...?

I was talking about the misrepresentation rusty had done to you near the beginning of the day. It makes you very unlikely to be connected with rusty/Ash.

[PorkchopExpress]

Iwould agree with start here,

I am willing to cut ash some slack.

however carrick as pointed out before will earn my full attention once this blue matter is resolved one way or the other.

and on that note where the heck is blue???

Full Post. I took a look back at Tubby after rereading Nikanor's analysis. I'm interested to see what people make of this, because I also noticed the beginnings of an interesting discussion. I'm starting to see a lot of plausible connections between Tubby and Ash.

[tubby216]

i think its an excellant exaple of HOW I ROLL!!

so there thats what i think of your post pork

[hohum]

Official Vote Count:

purple princess(3): My Milked Eek, Porkchopexpress, tubby216

BlueRaven(1): startransmission
PorkchopExpress(1): purple princess

Not Voting(3): Nikanor, BlueRaven,

With 7 Alive it takes 4 to lynch

[purple princess]

I can see where Nikanor and porkchopExpress are coming from with the connections between Ash and tubby, but what I cannot get my head around why you would vote for your scum buddy so early on.
At the time of his vote no one could have been certain that ash was going to be lynched on day one and we were still a little bit away from deadline so it wasn't like it was a rush to vote.

Also, just had a quick read of some of tubby's other games and he doesn't seem to be as confident in this game than in some of the others he has played as town, I understand that this could be nothing, but I thought it was worth mentioning.

[My Milked Eek]

@mod: how's blue's replacement going?

I'm not sure either, purely from a setup perspective, that the goon would bus his roleblocker with no apparent need to, as pp pointed out. From a contextual perspective, tubby's vote and wording does seem a bit off and warrants a closer inspection tomorrow.

[hohum]

@mod: how's blue's replacement going?

I'm working on it. People aren't exactly jumping at the opportunity to replace in on D2.

[hohum]

Pads replaces Blueraven

[Pads]

Hello, all.

I do not believe an extended introduction is necessary here.

vote: Purple Princess

[tubby216]

^this:roll: