I hope this helps you guys!
almightybob wrote:
Covenent, why did you want to skip the RVS and start a wagon on yourself? Of course, you could just be scum, cutting to the chase. Please do explain.
One of my more recent games, the RVS lasted for five pages, and yielded no information. I was tired of the random BS floating around. And from now on, when entering games, I will either policy vote one of two things when beginning a game. Kise, and myself. Why would scum want to get themselves lynched?
@All who are voting me solely on me voting myself.
-To you, is there a difference between RVS voting myself to get discussion going, or me self-voting when I am being pressured, and am close to a lynch (obviously self voting out of frustration).
Snow White wrote:
Secondly. Why call for a bandwagon and then FoS myself, Mufasa and Lowell for obliging you.
It was just how quick you were to mindlessly jump on the wagon. Not even questioning why I would do such a thing. You didn't even question me before voting, which somewhat surprised me. Out of the three of you, no one questioned me. I should have probably FoS'd MME, and EC, but... meh, it was a little late I guess.
saberwolf wrote:my vote was to see if any reactions occured. Also, if you happen to be scum and I start to tilt the BW your way, then it would be interesting to note what happens if the opposing BW is a scum or town one, and what scum do to prevent their member from being lynched. If I feel you are town or don't think the BW is worth pursuing, I can always take my vote off later.
Good job on the pressure vote. you waited what... 41 minutes to see if it worked. You should have at least waited a day.
Wickedestjr wrote:
BloodCovenent wrote:Why so quick to jump on the bandwagon?
You pretty much claimed to be scum. Now people vote you, and you FoS them for it. Are you trying to discourage them from voting?
I have only ever seen scum self vote once, where as I have seen town self vote two-three times. So how exactly did I claim scum?
Sanjay wrote:I get somewhat of a town vibe from Mufasa. He seemed to quite easily put the third vote on the BloodCovenent wagon which seems like kind of a scary place for scum to tread. Plus I think his frustration with BloodCovenent seems townish to me. I am getting a town vibe on My Milked Eek for similar reasons.
How do you get frustration from
this?
Sanjay wrote:
BloodCovenent is of interest to me. He invites a wagon on himself and then casts huge suspicion on everyone that joins him. It's like he doesn't get his own joke. I guess that could have been his plan all along (be bait and see who bites), but it seems like bad town play. I know it is often wrong to equate bad town play with scumminess, but I do get a sort of scum vibe from BloodCovenent's play so far.
I feel as if you're misinterpreting my reasons for to self voting. And in fact, if I had read the rules, I probably would not have done what I did (because I was already self voting :p so shouldn't that golden rule have been used on everyone else
), instead I should have voted "no lynch," to start discussion.
Sanjay wrote:
Mufasa's vote looks pro-town to me because to me it reads like "weeeee, let's bandwagon" where as Lowell's reads more like "okay".
And that looks like frustration.....yea....
Wickedestjr wrote:
I'm talking about where you cast a second random vote. Why did you cast a second random vote? Do you think it helps?
I would rather a player cast several (beyond two) random votes, than not vote at all.
Snow White wrote:
Saber wrote: Snow White wrote: (no one get cute, ive
yet
to see a RVS where one of the bandwagons is scum)
trying to convince us that randomly landing on scum the first day never happens.
I have NEVER said "i have NEVER seen a RVS where one of the BW are scum" I said i have YET to see one. Do not twist my words Saber.
Frankly, why are you holding BC to being scummy when clearly what he wrote he wrote as a joke. Is your humorous missing?
1. I'm going to side with Snow on this one. It feels as if you were trying to manipulate her words Saber.
2. How do you know I wasn't being serious. I did want to skip the RVS. And in a sense I did. I cause 4-5 Players to start off a game with their "serious" vote.
Snow White wrote:My vote is staying because im infuriated.
Arrogance is scummy.
But it's not a scum-tell. It may be scummy in a tentative sense. but it doesn't mean that he has to be scum. A good scum-hunter can be cocky too. Hell, I was in Kubrick Mafia.
saberwolf wrote:
I'm not twisting. Lets put this in an easier example: My family has never won the lottery. It is still accurate of me to say, "I've yet to see any of my family win the lottery".This implies that my family had never won the lottery.
You said you've yet to see scum get RVS BWed, which means you've never seen it happen before.
NEVER = YET
Yes you are, because you didn't take into account all of the
other mafia games
where scum have been RVS bandwagoned.
Getting pro-town reads from
-Saber (aside from the twisting of Snow's words)
-AlmightyBob
-Sanjay
Neutral- scummy actions
-wikedestjr - Lack of real content. Just feels like he's asking dumb questions, that aren't really helping the town that much
-Snow - Voting out of anger only hinders the town, because you are blinded by your bias, therefore thinking clear can be harder. I'm not exactly listing you as scum. However your behavior is not pro-town, but I don't have a complete read on you.
-All of the lurkers! Me included too!
The rest, I have Neutrals on, for the most part.