Newbie 871 - Game Over Town Win

[ksen]

Official Vote Count

Players needed to lynch: 5

Annachie

- 1 - herd456 - (L-4)

boberz

- 1 - Incognito - (L-4)

herd456

- 1 - Patrick - (L-4)

ksen

- 1 - boberz - (L-4)

Players not voting: Annachie, Ether, ksen, RayFrost, Tyrope

Will prod herd.

My vote was on Darth. Shouldn't it have transferred over to his replacement?

vote: RayFrost

[Incognito]

starkmoon's using an

automatic vote count tabulator

, so I don't think it registers DarthRandal as a legitimate vote anymore, and I don't think it automatically transfers votes when a replacement occurs. In any case

vote: RayFrost

.

I don't understand what boberz is trying to say at all. boberz, please clarify.

@Ray:

I don't remember there being many text walls in this game. Some of the posts have been somewhat wordy, but I always thought it was easier to read stuff when there's less things quoted by people in posts and more original thought in the posts instead. The replacements of Boost Mafia would find this game to be a breeze of a read, that's for sure.

Though I do feel just a little lonely on herd. It sort of feels like he's slipped out of the limelight by virtue of not having been posting.

Trust me, I could easily see myself flipping my vote back to him.

-~-~

@ksen:

Got anything else to comment on?

[Annachie]

Ether, re post 258, that's twice the subject of you stating certainties on other peoples town/scum has come up, and the second time the questioner has been called paranoid.


and what makes you think I haven't gotten the answers I want?

All quotes Ether except where noted:

but a part of me is nervous that Incognito and I will trip each other a couple times. And that I'll wind up focusing more attention on them than on you. But I'll try not to do that.

I'm going to take your [[

Incog's I believe

]] word for this and write you off as town. Awesome.

These read like a scum setting up excuses for themselves, just in case.

One of them, however, is absolutely a filthy scumbag trying to bump me off

I noticed particularly that you didn't use the word scum there. But used scumbag
If you are scum, then one of either Patrick or Incognito could be a scumbag (townie) trying to knock you off. But if this comment was ment in jest, then I would have expected some indication of it.

You're due

Finally,

I want Boberz to elaborate on why he's voting Ksen as opposed to DarthRandal/Herd/Annachie.

Since this was just after he'd pressured you slightly Ether, why aren't you mentioned in that list? I was half expecting Boberz to place a vote on you around that point.

Vote Ether

[Ether]

You don't believe a word you just said.

[boberz]

Ill deal with ether and incog when it isnt 2:30 am. Annachie is much easier,

at what point exactly (after which post) did you think my vote was going her way and why, that was not in my head at all. If my vote was going anywhere which it wasnt it was going your way as demonstrated by my post about you four.

She is not included in that list because one of my (and her) main moans has been relative inactivity, that is one thing ether cannot be accused of.

Having said all this i have not written you off as town either ether.

[Ether]

RayFrost.

You are still putting off this game.

Are you ashamed of yourself yet?

[RayFrost]

RayFrost.

You are still putting off this game.

Are you ashamed of yourself yet?

gimme 13 minutes and I will be.

It'll be 12:30 PM, meaning I have spent over five hours putting off this game.

[Ether]

Why?

[Incognito]

I... don't really know what to make of Annachie's Ether-vote. I was half-expecting him to vote

me

eventually actually since he seemed to be building up to it. Annachie, why do you think all of those posts you've quoted would be more likely to come from a scum Ether as opposed to a town one? Your explanation of them seems to only come from a scummy light, so I'm curious if you've analyzed them in a "good" light at all.

Also, what's your read of me anyway?

Also, this:

@Annachie: I didn't look tooooo deeply into your past game but from what I saw, you seemed a bit looser with your vote than you have been here. Is there any reason why that may be the case?

...though with your brand new vote, I'm not even sure if this is as applicable anymore now as it was before.

[Annachie]

I suspct I wasn't looser in earlier games, just a little "Jump to conclusion" ish. I may be overcompensating by overthinking this game. (Especially with my thinking breaking down in the middle when Chris had her oops)

I've been picking your brain Incog, while waiting for Ether to return from her little absense. I wanted to see her response to some things first though as you can now no doubt guess some of my reasons for the questions given that Ether was on two of the three L-2 votes.

I agree, so far Scum lite, which is more than my feeling on others but one thing I learned from my first two games. When people are certain, it's for one reason only. They know.

As for your good self Incog, lets wait until Ether gets resolved one way or the other

[Ether]

Uh, hi? I'm resolved just fine.

[Ether]

As for your...case:

Yes, I was afraid that Incognito and I would steal each other's lines. How is that remotely unreasonable? I'm still posting and giving my own opinions. And I don't see how that second quote, in which I write off another player as someone whose lynch I would not support, is "setting up excuses" even to that degree.

I don't get the logic of the second part at all. You...appear to be accusing me of oh-so-subtly

claiming

scum, and saying that maybe if I'd been my "confession" had been less serious, that would be okay and not scummy. What?

I didn't expect Boberz to vote me, and even if I did, the purpose of my question doubled as a way to get his stances on those players down and think about them (players on my own maybe list). I have less interest in how people behave toward me: I already know my alignment. Again, I'm not even sure what the point of that paragraph was.

As for the wagoning: I was the first person to vote both Ksen and Randal/RayFrost. Others made the decision to follow me. (I was also the first person to

unvote

Ksen.) Not my problem. (Nor is it a problem at all.)

I think you just wanted to vote me, looked through my posts for excuses, couldn't find any and made some shit up. Why?

[Ether]

Ray. Status update.

[RayFrost]

currently suspicious of boberz

[Ether]

Page?

[RayFrost]

pg. 1

[Ether]

[Incognito]

I agree, so far Scum lite, which is more than my feeling on others but one thing I learned from my first two games. When people are certain, it's for one reason only. They know.

I disagree completely. There are other reasons people can be certain; one reason being a situation where a player has so much Mafia experience that he or she has something of a 'sixth sense' for developing reads. Even if we assume that Ether doesn't fall into the aforementioned category of players (I happen to think she does, but that's beside the point), she says this kind of stuff as town all the time:

A little bit of TownEther-meta (bolded blue is my emphasis in each)

In no particular order:

Incognito's town, Eldarad's town, Mizzy's town, Elmo's town, Scot's town. Ether's town.

So that's nice.

Anyway, Moose is town

, The Many/Incognito is probably town, I feel obligated to temporarily write off McRookie for that goon question even though I don't really understand it. Thoooooooooooose newbflakes.

Columbo is town. Fluffy is town. Ray is town.

The bottom two examples were Day 1's.

If you've got some other reason for voting Ether, then that's cool, and I think you should probably bring that to the forefront rather than what you have now. As it stands, you're voting Ether for something that I could see her doing as town

or

scum but that I think she'd be

more likely

to do as town (for the sake of completion, here's an example of Ether doing this as scum too):

Hmm. Camn, what was the deal with your vote and unvote, anyway?

I'll look up your meta tommorow, going to bed now.

He's town.

So yeah.

-~-~

Ray, page 1? Wow.
Either way, what makes you suspicious of boberz on page 1?

[ksen]

@ksen:

Got anything else to comment on?

Not really. I'm satisfied with my vote on Darth/RayFrost. The only people I could see possibly switching my vote to at this point is either Herd or Annachie.

Right now it just seems like we are spinning our wheels until the day is over.

[Patrick]

Annachie's vote for Ether kind of blows by mind. I don't necessarily think it's scummy though I agree he looks like he decided on his vote then went and looked for reasons to justify it. I could see it as a genuine thought process coming from someone who thinks expressing certainty is scummy and then padding out the vote with other stuff.

I don't think I like anything Ray has posted so far.

Not really. I'm satisfied with my vote on Darth/RayFrost. The only people I could see possibly switching my vote to at this point is either Herd or Annachie.

Right now it just seems like we are spinning our wheels until the day is over.

Disagree completely, and if nothing else we need to get RayFrost on record (and more from the other replacement, Tryope). At what point do you feel this day started becoming pointless?

[ksen]

@Patrick: If you don't like anything Ray has posted thus far what more do you need on record from him? Darth was posting scummy and his replacement has thus far not done anything to remove that scummy feeling.

[ksen]

currently suspicious of boberz

Ray, would you elaborate why you are suspicious of boberz?

[Patrick]

Well, his reads of people would be a good start. You must think it's worthwhile too if you're asking him about his boberz suspicion? It's not as though we need to lynch someone immediately.

[boberz]

Dont rush quite yet, although i am begining to sense that if a day goes on too long scum can work their way back into a good position, i am aware i have not done a proper post in response to incog and ether, and that more stuff some of it involving me has been raised, I will answer this and hopefully find some more stuff.

Annachie, talk to me, do you think that you have looked more scummy in the first six pages or the second six pages, if you acceot a change what explains it. And just to note, rayfrost is taking a while considering he opted in if that makes sense.

[RayFrost]

post 12 ITT was a mix of misrep, misinterpretation, and stretching, imo.