Newbie 870 - Game Over

[ace5993]

His arguments on what he sees is scummy about me, and his latest argument against neto don't make any real sense, specially looking at it in a "possible scumbuddies" logic.

How does it not make sense? No offense, but you used almost a different form of the same logic against BV (a confirmed townie) before we had any flips, where it is much more dangerous to look for connections between people.

Could you explain in detail why it doesn't make sense?

I'm not getting a town or scum read on NikolaSama yet, just a newb read so far.

[ace5993]

Edit to above post - take out the almost in the second sentence, I had originally worded that differently and forgot to remove it.

[Nikanor]

Sorry folks, I was busier than expected (moving from house to house while working is tough. :/) Catching up and rereading now.

[Netopalis]

No worries, I think we've all been fairly busy lately.

[NikolaSama]

Well, I'm not gonna argue with Netopalis's facts about me, cause they make sense are are pretty logical. I admit that my behaviour at the start was rather poor but I entered the game during the night and was really just lazy and sleepy... But there's no way of proving it, now is there?

Why I find Neto possibly scummy? Well, this is my first game, I'm still not good at judging people but Neto was pretty focused on lynching BV. Maybe it was a false scum alarm but he almost tunneled the guy, jumping to TKaBN briefly, as someone here noted... I dunno, I just found his posts of invitation containing manipulative content...

[Netopalis]

I just found his posts of invitation containing manipulative content...

What do you mean by that?

[NikolaSama]

Give me some time, I'll scroll through the pages and find them. But you posted phrases like "Why not (vote for) BV?" and you asked, if someone was ready to hammer, when an opportunity arrives.

[Netopalis]

Well, in regards to the second question, if I recall, I was asking if someone would be willing to hammer

before the deadline

. That's a valid question - the town needs to ensure that they use every available lynch.

In regards to the first, I'd have to see it in context, but I believe that I was asking for somone (Nikanor?) to explain why they had a town read on BV which, by the way, never happened.

[almightybob]

Votecount 2.2

Nikanor - 1 (Shrinehme)
Tokillablockingnerd - 1 (ace5993)
ace5993 - 2 (danakillsu, Tokillablockingnerd)
Netopalis - 1 (NikolaSama)
NikolaSama - 1 (Netopalis)

Not voting - 1 (Nikanor)

[Shrinehme]

Shrine would you mind elaborating on why you read ace as town?

The way he posts.

Examples:

Everything he says here looks earnest. The deadline was approaching, he did express preference for the TKaBN wagon, Brock was the strongest lynch candidate by far, and he did express beforehand that he wouldn't mind hammering BV [Post 382; he didn't surprise us with a quickhammer]. Everything checks out. He's being honest.

He had almost the same sentiments on chauchau that I did [except I wasn't under the impression he was Cop]. My last few posts Day 1 were intended to look like I was iffy on chauchau [he was the last person I wanted to see NKilled], but I was pretty sure he was Town. He's looking at things from a Town perspective.

[almightybob]

Prodding danakillsu.

[Shrinehme]

I'd like to see a list of thoughts on each player from everyone. Please.

Done reading yet, Nikanor?

[Shrinehme]

EBWOP: Or at least a simple scumlist.

I'd also prefer that danakillsu or NikolaSama post theirs before anyone else does.

[Netopalis]

I will hold off on posting, then.

[Nikanor]

Done reading yet, Nikanor?

No.
Off to work soon, hopefully I can get something useful done tonight/tomorrow.

[Shrinehme]

I will hold off on posting, then.

Why didn't you ask me why I chose those two specifically? Not curious?

[NikolaSama]

He sees me as being a newbie scum, as I can see, so I'm not surprised he's up for this. I must ask you all to forgive me. With all these snow, I've been quite busy on carrying firewood and clearing my house's paths. Quite a tirying thing.

Firstly, I'd like to apologize to Neto for a mistake I made and

Unvote

After re-reading the pages, I found that I misread the post slightly. The one about What about BV was actually What about BN, damn those acronyms. Also, his explanation about the hammering thing is logical, since he also was the one to explain why a no-lynch is bad. I know this is gonna be seen as a backpedal by many (If not by all) not gonna even argue about that. Anyway, I'll devote myself to reading all of the posts again to find some new suspicions.

[Netopalis]

I will hold off on posting, then.

Why didn't you ask me why I chose those two specifically? Not curious?

Not at all. It's the same decision that I would have come to. I will explain why when I post my reasoning.

[Shrinehme]

NikolaSama, It'd be great if, after you read over the thread, you posting your thoughts on players and, perhaps, complied all of the in a list of 'Scummiest' to 'Towniest'.

I said that before, but I'm not sure if you missed it. Just making sure...

Nikanor! Do you realize that you've posted nearly 0 content in about a week?

[Nikanor]

Nikanor! Do you realize that you've posted nearly 0 content in about a week?

Yes, I do, and I realize I'm a crappy IC for it. I'm catching up now, though.

[ace5993]

Moar posts please. I will put up my scum/town list after dana and Nikola put theirs up.

[Shrinehme]

Replacing Danakillsu?

[NikolaSama]

Just to give youa sign that I'm still alive. It's hard to read the posts, cause we're having a slight storm here and it makes my connection hazzy. I'm trying the best I can to read and have litte left. Hope to put up the list soon. Just in case -

V/LA

[almightybob]

Apologies for the delay, Christmas and all that.

danakillsu has not picked up his prod. Seeking a replacement now.

[Shrinehme]