Newbie 871 - Game Over Town Win

[Annachie]

unvote vote Tyrope

[Yankee]

I would rather not switch my vote from Tyrope just because I am sure that he is scum and I am less sure about annachie, especially with his vote above. Of course that could just be a wifom trap or something similar. I would however switch to annachie if it would benefit the rest of you.

[Annachie]

It's more in relation to Ether's absence, but since I presented a theory that Yankee and Tyrope are scum, does it really matter which I vote for.

(Well yes as I wanted the four I'm sure are town to decide but ...)

[Patrick]

I'd be happy enough with a hammer now. I will say that although I'm still inclined to think Ether is town, she absolutely needs to be replaced or kicked hard tomorrow if she's still around. If she somehow is scum she can't be allowed to say nothing, and if she's town her vote and insight is needed, especially if it's lylo. Annachie's vote on Tyrope hasn't really affected my read of him either way; I think if he's scum with him then he'll have realised by now that he can't get Yankee lynched today, but it would also be a reasonable move for town.

[boberz]

it would have been a better move for town, if he had said, something along the lines of: 'I still prefer yankee but can accept the arguments for tyrope as the next best lynch', I didnt like it as it stood.

Im reluctant to hammer because i dont want to have to choose between annachie yankee and ether.

Ether often lurks when she is scum (we discovered this with meta, and incogs description now confirmed earlier) but surely this is extreme.

Ether I would really encourage you to speak.

Mod: can we have a replacement please?

[boberz]

Contrary to the above I will

vote Tyrope

I am sure he is scum but think it will make tommorow harder.

I might get told off by Patrick for this but I am gonna give some advice.

If there is a cop please check annachie.

If there is a doc please save patrick or myself.

[ksen]

ksen yankee, out of you two, who would rather swap their vote. Even if patrick and I get on the same wagon it needs another. I do not fancy getting a replacement for ether and then have people requesting extra time to read etc.

Reading thread . . . I am fine with either an Annachie or a Tyrope lynch.

[ksen]

NM, looks like the hammer has already been put down on Tyrope.

[Annachie]

Boberz, you deserve to get told off for that comment.

[boberz]

Why?

[starkmoon]

Yankee 2 Tyrope,
boberz
Tyrope 4 Yankee, Patrick,Annachie, boberz
Annachie 1 ksen,
ksen
Ether
Patrick


not voting
Ether


TYROPE (TOWNIE) is lynched, Night choices by Wednesday 5th at middat gmt

[starkmoon]

Day 3!

Yankee(herd456)
boberz
Annachie
ksen
Ether (SE)
Patrick (SE)

With 6 alive it is 4 to lynch...

Have at it! and good luck everyone.

[Yankee]

i guess good job doc, or either scum didnt lynch anyone. I guess it is not the latter since it didnt go to deadline. I am very shocked by the outcome of the tyrope lynch, so I do not feel comfortable with an Annachie lynch today. Honestly I have no Idea who could be the mafia right now, I am somewhat leaning toward a ksen scum allignment because it seems that nobody even suspected him yesterday and it just seems odd because everyone else got accused at some point it seems. Anyone care to explain their reads on ksen and boberz? Those are my two top suspects that I have not looked very thoroughly into. Annachie is the other but we have gone well over him...

Also, is someone going to be replacing ether please?

[Patrick]

Quick thing before work. It is possible that scum sent in a no-kill choice, but highly unlikely. I'm not sure why they would. I wonder if boberz is thinking what I am.

Mod absolutely needs to replace Ether if she hasn't been responding. We need that resolved one way or the other early on today.

I'm still thinking boberz and Ether are town, but as we're in lylo I'm going to have to reread to check this.

[starkmoon]

Ether has responded to prods over AIM.

[boberz]

Ether is active, I know what I think is happening here.

Ether post please, I truly can sort this pout if you post.

Essentially I am now choosing between: Patrick, ksen, annachie and we need to get two of them.

This does presume that there was an attempted nk in the night.

Did anyone other than patrick latch on to what I tried to say a couple of times yesterday?

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ksen, I thought the incog lynch was a safeside factor for him. But this is negated if either patrick or ether are scum. The lack of pressure on ksen is the fault of everyone except ether and I. The only person that is a scumside factor for is patrick.

Patrick, if I search I can find loads of things, most importantly one in the beggining of day 2. As I say I can stretch to find loads but that would be unfair. He never asked me to explain an important point on incog's mod wifom. I think he is scum because of some night analysis I have.

Annachie, most scummy for ages in my book his vote to make it l1 is bad. He is scum in my opinion. But I said that about Tyrope.

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I think it is Patrick and Annachie

It could be both Annachie and ksen or patrick and ksen. I would be suprised at patrick and ksen.

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Annachie, why was my comment bad at the end of the day. It looked like it achieved its aim to me.

[boberz]

Of course Patrick and Ether are good enough to be scum together and have me completely fooled. I dont want to go down that route again but possible.

Interestingly it toook incog a very long time to clear patrick he is is a posssible dont think incog asserted his innocence strongly.

I expect ether to turn up soon and converse again....

For the time being, the lynch I am most comfortable without ether's input is Patrick

so

vote patrick

[ksen]

Ether has responded to prods over AIM.

Shouldn't Ether be responding in the thread? I'd love to have some sort of explanation for basically having a no-show during the last day. From my experience that is very scummy behavior especially from someone who is supposed to be helping us learn the game.

Right now the only people I feel good about are boberz and myself.

Here are my reads in order of scumminess:

Annachie
Ether
Yankee
Patrick
boberz

With 6 remaining players and 2 scum left is this when we start seriously considering having a no-lynch day?

Rightnow I am going to

vote Annachie

because he is still my strongest scum read. That may change though once Ether decides to re-enter the game pending what she has to say.

[ksen]

boberz, why has Yankee fallen off your scum list?

[boberz]

It is maybe time to consider a no-lynch but not yet, we need the discussion of today, and definately ether back in the conversation.

Iam safer on yankee cos I think I know what is going on.

I give ether 24 hours from now to say something, then I will reveal my theory including all the stuff i was coy about yesterday.

That being said, help me out ksen. Do we have a roleblocker in this game?

[ksen]

That being said, help me out ksen. Do we have a roleblocker in this game?

Given this post about the potential makeup of the game the only way I'd know for sure at this point in the game was if I were scum or the cop.

And needless to say I wouldn't be raising my hand to claim either of those roles right now.

[boberz]

You wouldn't definately know if you were cop. Do you think that a no kill in the night didnt occur. The only person that could know that is scum. Have I caught you out?

[ksen]

You wouldn't definately know if you were cop. Do you think that a no kill in the night didnt occur. The only person that could know that is scum. Have I caught you out?

No, you didn't just "catch me out."

The probability that the scum team put in a no-kill is so remote to me as to be not even worth considering.

What possible benefit would the scum team have in not putting in a NK last night?

And if I were the cop I'd be pretty damn sure at this point in the game given the possible makeups of the game given to us by the mod. If there is a doc

and

a cop then there is a roleblocker.

[boberz]

I can think of a couple of benefits.

No-kill isnt remote at all, it happens in games a fair amount. One key reason it might be done is to make you presume there is a doc, or to convince a doc they have been successfull.

Why do you say it is remote?

Are you a doc? or a civillian then?

[ksen]

I say it is remote in my experience because I've never seen or been part of a scum team that has passed on putting in a NK. Therefore, as I said, the possibility is so remote

to me

as to be not even worth considering.

boberz, with two scum left do you really want the doc outing him/herself at this point? (BTW, that's not a subtle claim of doc by me)