OOOOH ME ME MEAlbert B. Rampage wrote:Unvote, vote porkchopexpress
PRETTEH SCUMMEH
Who's weth meh?
Wagon, hooooo!
Did you just read the last line of the post where I voted VP, or did you read the whole thing? You really, truly don't think that's a bit of a straw man?SerialClergyman wrote:(I mean come on - if we're voting based on urgency I don't have to move my vote at all!)
hmm.SercialClergyman wrote:The tone of his posts
Not done with Charlatan yet? This quote makes it sound like you're still scumhunting me, but you haven't even really been addressing points I've raised for a while now. Everything in your "reasons I'm voting Charlatan" post I've answered, most of which you have never commented on. I'm disappointed for the town that I'm the only one who thinks posts like 451 are an embarrassment.SerialClergyman wrote:ABR, PCE is up there as scummy for me too but I'm not done with charlatan yet and I'm frustrated you'd pull yet another wagon to distract. Do you have a town read on charlatan now or are you just more confident about PCE?
Oh, before I forget: when was the last time you were almost certain someone was town, and how did that turn out?VP Baltar wrote:You know, it's still weird when we agree SC, but I'm almost certain that you're town.
wtf is this, heckle-VP day?SC wrote:So maybe that's why we haven't agreed much. Interestingly, the results for those games seem to be going my way as well - is that 3.5 to 0.5?
Fairly well actually. My last completed town game was Last Man Standing and I had a town read on Vi very early even though she was calling for my head and was arguing down my awesome vote on benmage-scum. Thanks for asking.charltan wrote:Oh, before I forget: when was the last time you were almost certain someone was town, and how did that turn out?
I was mostly poking fun, don't take things so seriously. He knows what I'm referring to, and anyways I'm of the general opinion that any time you're certain someone's town in the first day or two of the game, that's when it's best to rethink.SerialClergyman wrote:Ugh. See! Yuk. Terribad argument. Does that apply to me as well, charlatan, given last game I went to my death on D1 advocating lynching Amished-the-scum?
What about changing gears when I was spinning my wheels with ABR was scummy again? What about "the tone" of my posts is a problem? Etc. etc. This is full of half-arguments and it's weird that it was enough for you to do a total 180, especially since it contains no new content at all.SerialClergyman wrote: 3) Shenanigans! Little things I don't like. Unvoting for a re-read and then voting a third party with nothing really instigating the change. The tone of his posts, his choice of targets, how difficult it is to get people who suspect him to vote him, the hyperbole.
If it was heckle VP day I'd point out that I think I called you out as scum (or at least had very heavy suspicions of you) in all three.wtf is this, heckle-VP day?
Fair enough. I'm probably the wrong person to say this too though, I've actually tried playing games where for the first day ALL I do is look for town and then lynch pretty much randomly amongst the rest. I think town reads are important, and especially so early.charlatan wrote:I was mostly poking fun, don't take things so seriously. He knows what I'm referring to, and anyways I'm of the general opinion that any time you're certain someone's town in the first day or two of the game, that's when it's best to rethink.
SerialClergyman in 458 wrote:Judging by apparant suspicion of you, we have a majority of the town that's prepared to lynch you, but the votes on you never quite reach where they should be reaching.
As scum there's a very good amount of information that can be learned by pushing such an idea; particularly the people accused of being linked together. Depending on the person a too defensive position might mean one thing and trying to ignore the issue might mean another, but there's certainly potential value.charlatan wrote:Yes. Is there a particular reason not to answer it? Even though you're not voting Amished, understanding some things about why you voted in the first place helps my read on you, especially when you alluded to having additional reasons for your vote on him that you never expounded on.Debonair Danny DiPietro wrote:Is 406 really relevant any more given 413?charlatan wrote:DDD - In case you missed it, please see 406.
Reck wrote:Porkchop and Scien are both very inactive ;_;
Reck wrote:Vi is almost certainly town btw. I have yet to see a Vi post that I haven't viewed as pro-town, and post 297 calls out exactly how I was feeling about Porkchop's "catchup" post.
And that's it. Number 2 suspect! Feel free to compare that to how much he calls charlatan scummy and even says:Reck wrote:I like ABR's top three scum in 323 minus Amished. Put VPB in for Amished and I think that's more in line. Porkchop might be in there as well, depending on how the next few pages shake out.
reck wrote: I support SC's 241 vote of charlatan, who seems like the best lynch candidate at this point.
This is getting a little blah.SC wrote: I'm happy with the charlatan case and unhappy with ojanen pushing it but not jumping on it.
Someone arrogantly claiming to be pro-town isn't a scumtell to me, and I'm not sure why it seems to be a large part of his scumminess to you, unless the whole argument is lurking. I don't necessarily like his attitude or the level of contribution, but I haven't felt anything that opportunistic yet, and he's felt fairly transparent and not that departed from the town-DDD I saw in Amished village.PorkchopExpress wrote:@Ojanen: DDD’s repeated claims of being a pro-town lurker without actually doing anything to earn the pro-town part of that label strike me as more palpably scummy than Charlatan’s shenanigans at the moment. You haven’t really mentioned DDD as of yet, I’m interested to know what your take on him is.