Stars Aligned II - Game Over!

[dramonic]

good morning, strangers.

[dramonic]

advantages: Since craft fetish and stalk produce noise, we know who is at a risk of getting murdered/destroyed by an unspeakable being. Anyone who's picked up a res kit can work their target from there, if we also get a ward claim like last game.

disadvantage: Like Adel(?) said in the sign-up topic, a preemptive noiseclaim makes for easy fakeclaims from the cult, since they have less actions to lie about. Additionally, since this time they can daytalk, contradicting claims cant cause their downfall

[dramonic]

stalking would cause insanity too.

[dramonic]

Ward
Side Effects: Your target hears Noise. You hear Noise. Your action will fail if someone targets you with Ward, and you will not be notified of the failure. If you choose this action two nights in a row, you gain an Insanity.

Not a good idea?

[dramonic]

post 19 I mean not being a good idea

didnt ward. heard noise. adopted fetal position.

[dramonic]

oh come on.
I think you are trying to consider me overpredictable. You are in the game sajin, I'm not stupid, I know I CAN'T go murderer even if I wish I could =_=

[dramonic]

oh come on.
I think you are trying to consider me overpredictable. You are in the game sajin, I'm not stupid, I know I CAN'T go murderer even if I wish I could =_=

The only way you CAN'T go murderer is if you are a cultist. Do you agree?

In theory that is correct. BUT I was rather refering to the fact this situation being very predictable (you jumping in my face) if I want to write "win" in my log for this game going murderer is signing up for my own lynch.


Also about the nominations, I don't mind serving as the grave-robber. Should I also rob every single night-kill graves? I'm going to bust the top quickly if we have as many killers as last time (3 or 4 died night 1) :S

@Mod: What happens if I rob so many graves that I would be taking my ninth insanity?

[dramonic]

If VP is warded, then that means his Ward on Adel did not work. If it didn't work, Ani might be being truthful with his stalk claim

Error. If VP warded Adel, wards on him will have failed, not the other way around.

[dramonic]

Ward
You draw elaborate warding symbols around another player's room, covering their walls and doors to protect them from human surveillance. This will cause the Craft Fetish and Stalk actions to fail if they target that player. This action requires Protective Wards. If you took this action last night as well, you gain an Insanity.

Stalk And Craft Fetish will work on you tonight even if someone is using Ward on you (and thus targetting yourself wastes your action).

You generate Noise for your target. You hear Noise.
Sample PM: Tonight I will Ward: Herbert West.

from the first Stars Aligned. Since it wasn't written in the change part I didn't know it had changed ^_^;

[dramonic]

thanks for the clarification.
Also, Ani lied!

Vote: Ani[ /b]

[dramonic]

=_=

vote: ani

[dramonic]

riiiiiiiiight
I was that day 1 first game ><
focus DAMMIT!

[dramonic]

and now... drumrolls!

[dramonic]

that'll only prove no one has avolition. there are quite a few other insanities potential murderer could take.

[dramonic]

That plan would suppose there was no night 0

tomorrow morning, there WILL be corpses, that's unavoidable. AND they will fuck up the numbers.

Also, murderers are so clearly at an advantage in that plan it's not even funny. free kills much?

[dramonic]

if they are murderers, it's not the win for everyone they're after

[dramonic]

this all supposes you dont get stabbed in the eye socket before morning adel <<

[dramonic]

ebwop: by ani

[dramonic]

if this is like last game, kill method makes a clear difference.

[dramonic]

I still maintain that the success of said "setup-break" is doubtful at best, especially considering it's supposed to keep Ani alive when he has basically pretty high odds of being MURDERER.

Who vigs night 0, seriously?

Better yet, why is he being unvoted?

[dramonic]

Correct me if I'm wrong, everyone who stalked in the first game n0 flipped murderer.

[dramonic]

n0?

[dramonic]

well if he picked psychopathy he WANTED to be a murderer, so my point stands

[dramonic]

If nobody warded me, then ani is a liar liar pants on fire who was trying to get ahead in the insanity count (ie, he never stalked at all) and we need to lynch him now.

Let's analyze

Ani is an investigator who stalked night 0. In opposition to that we have VP who warded Adel.

Now, if someone claims to have warded VP we can give the benefit of the doubt to Ani.

If not however, then he lied about his action's success.

Now the question is, what is the interest for an investigator to lie about his actions success?

Insanities appear one of 2 ways night 0
Stalk or Launder.

Outing himself at the beginning of the day was completely idiotic, borderline suicidal, especially now that we're watching him for murder case.

And then pops in Adel's "let's break the game with confirmed town Ani"


You know what I think? I think Ani laundered night 0 to "confirm" not cult. I think it was planned all along, I think Adel and Ani are cult together and the former tried to insure a cult win with a fake setup break.

[dramonic]

wicked and drench left.

[dramonic]

I think Drench claimed no noise no ward.

Dram's consipracy theory of cult-ani laundering to look like an investigator seems sort of far-fetched.

I think that if nobody warded VP, that Ani did stalk but he stalked somebody -- not Adel. It would be smart for him to say he stalked the wrong target because then we all watch for Adel to die and Adel doesn't. Somebody else dies but we don't connect it to Ani.

However, I fully expect VP to have been warded because if so, then we have 10 people who heard noises who weren't warded. These people have fetished crafted of them. Meaning we have 5 cultists who crafted 2 fetishes each. The OP said 1/4 scum, which is more like probably 6 cultists in the game. So one cultist was either blocked due to a ward, or they searched for resuscitation kit. That would be my guess.

and you say I'M far-fetched 0_o

[dramonic]

they can craft 12 fetish per night, like sacrificing 2 night 0 is going to make a real difference :S

[dramonic]

Roles

Cultists

, who number approximately one quarter.

25/4 = 6,25
You're grasping Sajin.

[dramonic]

Unvote

12 pages... seriously guys? This could have been condensed into at most 3.
That plan was terrible and full of holes from the beginning. Like, really really bad.
AND it comes from a scum or murderer by claim.
AND Iece still wanted to follow along with it?

Vote: Iecerint

I'd vote Elli, but since he stalked CC who now is CSL...

[dramonic]

^ Then you probably should have brought it up from the beginning. Then you might have gotten your 3 pages.

i havent posted in those twelve pages, I wasnt there to stop yall :p

[dramonic]

Hey, did you know that CSL, Sarag, dramonic, Drench, Hayker, and startransmission are all in this game?

Fun fact of the day.

hey, did you know you have only 3 more posts than I do?

Don't complain about my activity level

[dramonic]

Have you read the thread DGB?

Yes, mostly strategy (not my forte) and little scum hunting. I'm trying to get some movement going in that direction, gah!

How is basically trailing behind a player known to have a pretty anti-town behaviour all around worth qualifying scumhunting in any way ?

[dramonic]

@Iecerint: Ani is a male.

[dramonic]

Phate, before you make a post in this game, please think carefully about whether your post will help town. People are trying to catch up! <3

This is the pathway to a town victory.

In my opinion said pathway should begin with lynching you Iece.

[dramonic]

@1004

ok... WTH???

Unvote
Vote: Nicodemus

[dramonic]

l-5

[dramonic]

NB: Elli is a wardless noise-hearer. I'm not sure whether someone claimed him as ward-target later, but it would be nice if his CSL kill could get through IMO. Ideal rez target. FYI.

Can you act any more like scum?
THere are no RBs in this game and dying won't prevent the kill from going through.

[dramonic]

I've never seen so much action in twilight 0_o

[dramonic]

The town doesn't

collectively

NK in this game.

Keep dreaming of vigs <<

[dramonic]

I personally iLord slipped. I think however his calling to DGB is scum trying to grab before dying.

[dramonic]

I dont put much trust in "town slow-vigs"

[dramonic]

Elli can't be scum, per rules about insanities: Psychopathy cannot be taken as the first insanity. Therefore he isn't murderer (though he could potentially be scum who lied about his N0 action, although unlikely)

In other news, CSL not dying is bastardly. and obv-scum motivated.

[dramonic]

Not too suprised at the Nico flip. My guess is that Katy and Sajin were both town. Iecerint is the flip out of that group I'm most interested in seeing. I'll need to take some time to review Katy and Sajin's suspect lists, since I think one of them were the likely target of the cult last night.

CSL not dying is well....irritating. Either the cult tried to set up Ellibereth last night by rezing CSL, CSL is cult, or Elli is cult who participated in the ritual.

I think I'm initially inclined to believe Phate about being the ritual target since he seemed townish to me yesterday, which means that Sajin and Katy were both murdered.

In the first game cult targets were "destroyed by an unspeakable being" or something. I'm inclined to believe Phate.

I do think we should be claiming noises today. I heard a noise and I did not ward (obv).

Did not ward, and had... a silent night, holy night, all was calm, all was bright...

[dramonic]

oki... this just got statistically improbable.

Hayker, vote someone without twitching please.

[dramonic]

CSL not dying is well....irritating. Either the cult tried to set up Ellibereth last night by rezing CSL, CSL is cult, or Elli is cult who participated in the ritual.

Do you really think cult would waste a rez kit on CSL if he wasn't cult?

gives an easy mislynch, wastes a few town equipment, allows time to craft more fetish... sure?

[dramonic]

I'm a bit skeptical scum would ward...

[dramonic]

If CSL's rezzer does not claim, than we can assume it was done by scum and that Elli would probably not be a good lynch today.

This is pretty bad reasoning.

[dramonic]

Because we have to lynch Elli at one point or another, he's a potential murderer and CSL, whatever he flips, doesnt tell us anything about Elli's alignment, while the opposite has potential to be indicative.

[dramonic]

why, insanity overflow?

[dramonic]

CSL can flip scum, town, murderer, doesnt tell us anything about Elli.
Meanwhile, if Elli flips scum, we know he couldnt have killed CSL and therefore know CSL is also scum since he'd be lying about the rez.

@Ani: refering to the second GR.

[dramonic]

im talking grave-robber here. Why would you need a helper if we lynch Elli?

[dramonic]

I must say

Vote: Elli

seems like the better option.

[dramonic]

CSL - 1 (DrippingGoofball, vikingfan)

just want to point out that either the mod messed up on the count, or one of them has an unstated insanity messing with their voting.

beautiful catch dude. We've got some scum in that duo

@Magua: Gambler's Fallacy and Framing attempt noted.

[dramonic]

This way, Ani could suicide later instead of us taking a day phase to lynch him. If Percy allows us to do this, it could be a good strategy for later.

you guys should stop trying to break the setup and start trying to play the game the way it was meant to be played. WITHOUT modkills.

[dramonic]

Warning:

I will not agree with any plan that include putting people in modkill territory on purpose. It's not anti-town, it's anti-game.

[dramonic]

we can stop murderers, but the cult kills are still going to pile up...

[dramonic]

I know. I'm just saying we shouldnt count on graverobbing to slow down the kills that much.

[dramonic]

so... Do we agree to no grave-robbing and I hammer CSL to save Percy the trouble of finding a replacement?

[dramonic]

so... Do we agree to no grave-robbing and I hammer CSL to save Percy the trouble of finding a replacement?

I'd rather have a grave robber.

Well, Magua has a decent point. Barring delayed murderers, if we rob tonight we're out of corpse tomorrow to block potential murderers into graverobbing.

A single well-timed graverob obligation can pretty much screw any murderer over.

[dramonic]

I'm going to hammer soon unless someone disagrees.

say, an hour.

[dramonic]

Vote: CSL

And that's it for today.

[dramonic]

nope.

[dramonic]

I didnt hear noise.
Also, kills are missing from the day beginning. At first I thought cult had no-killed.

[dramonic]

Nice try. But we've already had TWO nights already before you replaced in and you keep saying it's your second insanity. The OP says even if one fails in a murder/stalk, the side effects still carry through of gaining an sanity.

So you've got three and the one you picked last night is your third.

If you ARE innocent, then you wouldn't have even needed to pick an insanity last night...you would have just laundered or done something else. Vote stands.

Mind naming all your insanities?

How do you know she gained an insanity?

[dramonic]

that's not really updated...

[dramonic]

I nominate:
- dramonic robs Icerint, Katy
- Ellibereth robs CSL, Phate
- kunkstar robs startransmission, lynchee-to-be-named

Not gonna work. We have to cross-rob: If Elli or kunk (or myself I guess) are cult, we can have our teammates rob a grave for us so that we have our night action.

[dramonic]

Not gonna work. We have to cross-rob: If Elli or kunk (or myself I guess) are cult, we can have our teammates rob a grave for us so that we have our night action.

We don't care if Cultist's help each other grave rob - either way, the Cult is losing one night action.

robbing a single grave won't cost them their action.

[dramonic]

Also, I dig what EK is putting down about kunk possibly being cult. If one of the cult members was in SA1, they definitely could have advised him to claim he switched back from murderer. The pieces just don't add up for him.

This is what is now making me wonder about Magua... because Magua was Amished who voted Evilsnail for voting Nico. And Magua was the one who brought up that this change-your-choice-of-insanity thing is possible because it happened in SA1. AND Magua was cult in SA1. I think he was the last alive. So he knows his shit.

So... yesterday I really liked a lot about of what Magua was saying. I thought he was like superTown^TM. But this new Drench-AMished-Nico connection has me a little scared that Magua could totally be pulling the strings in a bid to save kunkstar.

Another thing I don't like about the kunkstar story is that he says Drench took Taboo launder N0. But Drench never voted his whole time in this game which seems like evidence that he had a voting insanity he was trying to hide. And it's hella convenient that kunkstar is bloody and will continue to be bloody because he can't launder. Cover story much?

Am I being paranoid?

no you're not. THen again I'm a bit of a conspiracy theorist

[dramonic]

If we force people to rob 2 graves and they're a murderer, they are prevented from other actions... but if they're cult that can just split up the graves so they are only robbing one grave and their cult buddy robs one grave and they can still do their evil-actions. It will look like they robbed the graves they were supposed to, and couldn't have done an action. But if the person is cult they can get around this.

Has anybody brought this up yet?

Is there a way we are accounting for this?

Read the post directly before yours.

The post asking 3 people to rob 6 graves with no possibility of cross-rob? The one that heavily favours the cult?

Yeah, that one.

[dramonic]

I feel like dramonic and SoG have not been that helpful/active as they should be considering they already played this game before.

Deflection: I feel like while my contribution isn't that great, at least it's not inherently pro-scum like magua's last few interventions.

[dramonic]

The robbing grave point is to cut down on murderers murdering -- the cult can still ritual even if only 1/3 of its members get actions, and the cult can spread the graves around. It is theoretically possible to lock the cult down if we choose all the grave robbers to be cultists, but then we have 3-5 attempted murders tonight. Not a good trade.

I already explained clearly why this doesn't work and we cant just have 3 graverobbers dual rob.

The goal should be to lynch the cult during the day, and keep the murderers from murdering at night. This is part of the reasoning why I'm more open to keeping claimed murderers (who may or may not still be town) alive. The only trick is confirming that they're not cult.

What you'Re doing here is letting the cult kill at night and trying to block people on reads from other games. That's not good.

Town: Animorph, elvis_knits, iLord, rewq, VP Baltar
Graverobbing-likely-scum: Ellibereth, dramonic, Kunkstar7
Other Scum: DrippingGoofball, evilsnail, semioldguy
No Good Read: Chaco, Hayker, Plum, SlySly, vikingfan, Wickedest

So... 16 people I see, 10 reads I get... the hell dude?
Also, "still scum" is not a really good case.

[dramonic]

I take a small amount of satisfaction that I actually did break the game setup (and by "break", I mean "100% town win 100% of the time"). iLord cottoned onto the basic idea pretty quickly.

Setup is not broken at all, scum is heavily helped by your idea

Anyways, I said it before, but I'll say it again. We should *not* rob all four graves tonight. I'd actually be happy with not robbing any graves tonight, except that I'll be keen to learn the lynchee's alignment, so I'm ok with robbing two graves.

HOw is this congruent in any way with trying to block the murderers? we have at least 3 when you posted this, it makes NO sense.

[dramonic]

I've heard noise only night 1 (and it was due to chaco warding)

[dramonic]

More for your chart EK...

I have 2 insanities. N0 I stalked Amished with intentions of going murderer (I took compulsion). The happenings of D1 may me reevaluate my plans and I decided to stick with the town route. N1 I picked up Occult Books. I checked Magua last night and he was not more insane than me, so he had 1 or less insanities last night before the resolve of my commune (I took hallucination).

Is there any protown motive to pick hallucination in your opinion?
Because I cant find one.

[dramonic]

I've a single insanity, aversion to Magua.

proof:

Vote: Magua

Insanity Infraction

[dramonic]

to prove the insanity is not twitchy:

Unvote
Vote: SlySly

[dramonic]

Commune, got a town result. Should I claim on who?
(hint, it's not on Sly)

Also, I'll oblige if graverobbing is required of me, although I still think it'd be more efficient to dual rob, at least on the people we think are town.

[dramonic]

By the end of Night1, Magua had no insanity.
thus aversion

[dramonic]

What do you mean by a town result? Commune just shows if the other person has more inanities than you.

If I use it at 0 insanity and get returned "not more insane than you", its 0 insanity. Not a murderer, cult odds are really slim.

[dramonic]

...
that was a terrible maneouver.

[dramonic]

*BULLSHIT ALERT*

I said he wasn't murderer, don't get your nerves in a bundle. He can still be cult.

[dramonic]

EBWOP: Actually, I just noticed Craft Fetish doesn't give an insanity. So he's just not murderer.

This ability sucks more than I thought

[dramonic]

so, erm.... any suggestion for the insanities?
twitchy obviously... but I need something else...

[dramonic]

I already have aversion to him, I've proven it :S

[dramonic]

I'm completely lost with the plans and whatnot. I know who I'm supposed to graverob and what insanities to take. Is that all I need to understand for now? X_X

[dramonic]

You guys are too much into breaking the game and not enough into playing it <_<

[dramonic]

I'm going to take twitchy and sadism for insanities. I believe the other robbers should do the same/ substitute one for aversion. Fairly easy to prove insanities and not completely crippling like distraction.

[dramonic]

No, that's the scum targetting guide.

[dramonic]

Amusing how I get to reveal both cultists =3

[dramonic]

Both of my sad, sad victims were empty-handed.
Not really surprising.

Also, if you look at Viking's rez list from yesterday you can see he "forgot" EK was also in danger of death ;p

[dramonic]

you mean paranoid?

[dramonic]

ah, yes.

vote: Ellibereth

*twitch*

and stuff. I'm going to gain an infraction from sadism

Insanity Infraction

[dramonic]

Unvote
Vote: Vikingfan

*twitch*

strike two, not aiming to gain a third

Insanity Infraction

[dramonic]

I had a silent night, again.

[dramonic]

huh?

@Mod: If a vote has an insanity infraction, is it void?

[dramonic]

lol, sorry, missed the post. Now which votecount are we talking about here?
I'll find it, gimme a sec.

[dramonic]

I'm a bit perplexed at the accusation you are launching at me. Wha would be my motive as cult to lynch my buddies three days in a row?

[dramonic]

I cant say I know for sure, but I can check if you want?

[dramonic]

quick skim of my wiki would say no.
But meta really isn't the best on me, my play is apparently erratic from game to game.

[dramonic]

I'm not big on wagon analysis, but rewq really rubs me the wrong way.
Elli still has potent odds of being a villain
Viking is confirmed scum.

I'd lynch any of those three in any order.

[dramonic]

scratch that, Viking first and then any of the other 2.

murderer, well from my PoV everything points to DGB.

[dramonic]

What is "everything" that is pointing toward DGB?

Nobody claimed to have acquired equipment in their night actions, which predisposes me to suppose all of the robbing were executed as intended. I don't believe murderer would have dual robbed, given the chance.
Furthermore I'm not convinced DGB losing her action is quite genuine.

Why do you want to lynch any of your three if viking is "confirmed scum"?

Read above post.

Why do you think Ellibereth is a "villian"? Does that mean cult or murderer?

That means I strongly feel he's anti-town, although I can't know for sure weither he's scum or murderer. His early play reeks to me.

[dramonic]

The one from my ISO #126, modified with regards to recent events:

(

Cultist

,

CultistorMurderer

,

NotCultistMaybeMurderer

,

LikelyTown

,

StrongNonMurdererTown

):

dramonic

DrippingGoofball

Fetish

Ellibereth

Day 2 Behavior shift

Chaco

Warding + Behavior

kunkstar7 (Drench)

Percy Choice

evilsnail

Investigating

semioldguy

Commune

Magua (Amished)

Commune? I don't remember.

Plum (Sarag)

Rezzing

animorpherv1

Confirmed

Furcolow (Hayker (Adel))

Adel Behavior

VP Baltar

Warding + Behavior + Commune

rewq455 (Faraday)

Behavior

Two questions
Why am I cult?
Why do you think Chaco is murderer? It seems pretty incompatible with warding to me <<

[dramonic]

The one from my ISO #126, modified with regards to recent events:

(

Cultist

,

CultistorMurderer

,

NotCultistMaybeMurderer

,

LikelyTown

,

StrongNonMurdererTown

):

dramonic

DrippingGoofball

Fetish

Ellibereth

Day 2 Behavior shift

Chaco

Warding + Behavior

kunkstar7 (Drench)

Percy Choice

evilsnail

Investigating

semioldguy

Commune

Magua (Amished)

Commune? I don't remember.

Plum (Sarag)

Rezzing

animorpherv1

Confirmed

Furcolow (Hayker (Adel))

Adel Behavior

VP Baltar

Warding + Behavior + Commune

rewq455 (Faraday)

Behavior

Two questions
Why am I cult?
Why do you think Chaco is murderer? It seems pretty incompatible with warding to me <<

[dramonic]

well, it just seems counterproductive to ward Night 0 when he could start his murdering spree.

On the other hand, he dodged the graverob scheme from yesterday by doing that.
hm...

well, nonetheless Viking is definitely the play today.
I've sadist though, so get him higher so I can vote him

[dramonic]

*epic facepalm*

[dramonic]

actually I was referring to Ani claiming his plans to ward.

[dramonic]

Factoid:

If we take for a fact that murderers won't lie to confirm other players, the one who killed Elvis is either viking or rewq.
thoughts?

[dramonic]

Well, you have no decent case brought up against me. The fact I was on scum lynching wagons doesn't make me any more likely to be scum myself, actually I think it makes me somewhat less likely.
Additionally, if I'm "oh so obvscum" then I'm not your priority. Priority is getting rid of the murderer with 2 kills. If you guys are wrong about viking and decide to lynch him tomorrow because you think I take priority... Rewq wins.
I'll take the compliment though.

[dramonic]

Factoid:

If we take for a fact that murderers won't lie to confirm other players, the one who killed Elvis is either viking or rewq.
thoughts?

Why rewq?

Living people:
animorpherv1
Chaco
dramonic
DrippingGoofball
Ellibereth
evilsnail
Furcolow
iLord
kunkstar7
Plum
rewq455
semioldguy
Magua
vikingfan
VP Baltar

People who couldn't be responsible for the murder

double robbers: Me, Elli, kunkstar, magua
people who lost action in the last 2 days: Ani, Goofball
People who missed their action " " " " ": Furcolow
People who murdered the night before: Chaco

Who me have left:
evilsnail
iLord
Plum
rewq455
semioldguy
vikingfan
VP Baltar


evilsnail commited suicide if viking is not bloody. Therefore he's either legit or scum with him, but not murderer

Let's take for granted iLord and plum are not murderer for rezzing an investigator (since that'd cost 2 nights, considerably extending the time it takes to get three kills and increasing dramatically the odds of dying before victory)
VP is not more insane (max 1)
Semi is not more insane than VP (max 1)

Leaves Rewq and Viking

It's much too easy to hear noise for it to "prove" Rewq's actions.

[dramonic]

N2

[dramonic]

Plum rezzed furcolow night 1. Also, he didn't murder like he kept ranting he would. Another caught cultist?

[dramonic]

Sorry, Plum was worrying me far more than Furcolow. If I would have known someone else was going there I wouldn't have. Oh well, scum caught anyhow.

I think we need to determine who would be the best lynch today. Personally, I think dram and Plum are both cult, so seeing either of them go is going to make me happy. So depending who is left on that list, I think that graverobbing plan works fine. I'll probably need to review once more to make sure, but seems about right.

Let me get this straight... You have caught scum but you'd rather lynch me instead?

[dramonic]

You're gonna be one sad panda when I flip town

[dramonic]

I didn't, I equipped forensics since my occult book has become kinda obsolete with the forced graverobbing.

[dramonic]

equipped rez kit and books
I'm full equipped

[dramonic]

heard noise. Had to select an Insanity, so I chose Aversion and VPBaltar.

[dramonic]

march 6th, so... day 2?

[dramonic]

nope, day 3

[dramonic]

Magua, Plum, Ellibereth, dramonic, farside are the remaining cult/murderers.

/game

Which do you think are cult and which are murderers?

I think Plum and farside are murderers and the remaining three are cult. I'm fairly certain about Plum, Elli and dram. farside is definitely scum, but I'm positive of affiliation. Magua is the least certain of my reads.

Could we lynch one of them today[...]

well, unless I missed something we've incriminating evidence against Plum.

Vote: Plum

Insanity Infraction

[dramonic]

well, unless I missed something we've incriminating evidence against Plum.
Vote: Plum

I take it you didn't read iLord's post then?

I didnt preview. That wasnt there when I first hit reply.

[dramonic]

I support the Plum wagon.

[dramonic]

Insanity infraction null any vote in your post.

[dramonic]

Serve yourself, it's IFOY

[dramonic]

Furcolow is heavy on white noise

[dramonic]

=_=;
I heard noise night 0, if you believe I'm cultist then it's fine and all, but if you think I'm investigator/murderer I've no reason to lie about that. Since nobody claimed to be my noise-maker and I havent heard anything since I spose it's true Chaco warded me.
Uselessly I'll add, since I have MISLYNCH written on my face.

Also, Furcolow, you're WAY too aggressive.

[dramonic]

Yes I am.

[dramonic]

You're not really at a risk of derailing anything. Either Farside or Plum is scum.

[dramonic]

Vote: PLUM!

OMGUS!
No, seriously I'd have voted you earlier but being a sadistic creep prevented that

Insanity Infraction

[dramonic]

For one, you have solid proof against Plum or Farside.
Against me you have nothing.
How's that for starter?

[dramonic]

Vote: Plum

*twitch*
=_=

Insanity Infraction

[dramonic]

you gain an insanity the moment you do the insanity giving action.
However actions resolve in the same order as in the OP, so I think commune wouldnt see it because it goes before stalk(?)

[dramonic]

ah nope, its the insanity from the ritual that commune cant see if they're performed the same night.

[dramonic]

I believe you Farside, I believe you *pat pat*

[dramonic]

DAMN YOU REWQ

[dramonic]

Night plan sounds fine by me.

Elli robs elvis_knits, wicked
Magua robs evilsnail, wicked
Kunkstar7 robs elvis_knits, wicked

That fine?

no, that is not fine at all. You rob EK and ES.

[dramonic]

its a way for scum to get to keep their action because they just followed the plan which was "typoed"
Duh.

[dramonic]

OH NOES!

[dramonic]

I'm against any of the Grave-Robbers taking avolition.

If none of our lynch and graverobbers are cultists we end up ridiculously close to a LyLo case, three days in a row.

[dramonic]

I'm against any of the Grave-Robbers taking avolition.

If none of our lynch and graverobbers are cultists we end up ridiculously close to a LyLo case, three days in a row.

I seriously doubt that that's the case.

So I'm damned if I do and damned if I don't.
I'm going to be alive tomorrow I hope you have a really good explanation why.

PLEASE DO NOT TARGET ME FOR A REZ TONIGHT. I DID NOT HEAR A NOISE.

I don't get what you mean by the first part.

The point of this was to test for the scenario that Plum is investigator telling the truth. Tomorrow, we'll be in the same situation as today, minus one possibility.

So do I, but the risk/reward isnt worth it.

[dramonic]

I think we're all swamped right now (for the younger of us anyways, finals are coming faaaaast)

[dramonic]

Vote: PLUM!

OMGUS!
No, seriously I'd have voted you earlier but being a sadistic creep prevented that

Insanity Infraction

Are you a sadist or are you paranoid? Or both?

I'm a sadist. If I were paranoid my vote wouldn't be an infraction anyways, she'd just voted me.
Also, the new fad on Magua is cute and all, but I can't vote on that one due to Aversion. I'm probably going to take aversion farside, that way I can change it again once she's killed depending on the situation

[dramonic]

the fact you replaced in doesnt give your slot a blank card. Elli just put the most up to date name in his VC analysis. You're being silly if you think this is illegal/an offense.

On a sidenote, Elli is perhaps murderer, but not cult.

[dramonic]

stalk-murder-stalk/rob-rob/rob-stalk/rob-none

something like that XD

[dramonic]

Sajin, obviously.
Did you read his first post of the game? Not keeping him here

[dramonic]

Dramonic lost his action last night so we can lynch him tomorrow. One of Elli or farside is the last murderer, but they've grave robbed so much that they're not likely to be able to win anytime soon.

I'm short two murders, soonest I can win is night 10.

[dramonic]

I woulve fake-claimed some actions, but I did a claim mistake earlier that would've damned me.

[dramonic]

Oh, by the way, insanity claim!

psychopathy
taboo: commune
twitchy
hallucination
sadism
aversion: magua
distraction
paranoid

Don't expect me to vote anytime soon XP

[dramonic]

none

[dramonic]

[dramonic]

You're giving me the choice to be third party, do you think I'll pass on it?
I need to get rid of that meta =_=;

[dramonic]

My heart bleeds!

[dramonic]

Except for the fact that the graverobbing effectively shut down murderers like Dramonic.

But if he wanted to murder, say, iLord, that would be a good thing.

yeah, I tried doing that night 3

[dramonic]

Hey Dram, I get the feeling that this will take a while if you don't self vote. If you read this post and have not been lynched yet, please do so.

That'd surely create a time paradox, what with not being to vote someone who hasn't voted me, but by self-voting I have voted myself therefore I can vote myself, but originally couldn't!

My head hurts ><