Mini 957 - Everyone's a Hero Mafia - Game Over

[Thor665]

I am also very interested in you answering SOG's question about why you targeted who you did. Specifically Night 2.

I thought targetting Button would be good considering the win condition situation fiasco.

And apparently I was ninja-ed on my last post. I'd still like you to explain this more. At the end of Day 2 you were pretty sold on them as likely to achieve an instant win - so the possibility of the game being over or Button/Monkey being removed from the game were both high, so why track Button? At the very least he'd be targeting/being targeted by Monkey which would lead to a very fast spread of that color amongst the available players.

Then, on Day 3, you were arguing for a Monkey lynch and saying that Button would be useful - Button the player you suspected enough to track the night before.

I'm just not really following the logic - any insights to help me out here?

[semioldguy]

I am Dead Bowie.

I can convince a player not to kill someone, so that if they target a player to kill they don't shoot instead.

At the end of Day One I wasn't entirely sure who would be best to target so I choose to Pull a Heist on the first night and build up more points. Having the extra resources to use my ability an extra time later in the game has more value than using it earlier and having to waste a later night spent rebuilding points when my action could be much more important.

The second night I chose TheButtonmen. He was the one who claimed the killing power between himself and Monkeyman576 and I hoped that by stopping his kill it may disrupt their win condition.

Last night I chose McGriddle as he was most suspicious to me of the remaining players. If McGriddle is scum he is most likely not scum alone as he could not have performed last night's kill.

Thor665, you're up next.

[Timeater]

And apparently I was ninja-ed on my last post. I'd still like you to explain this more. At the end of Day 2 you were pretty sold on them as likely to achieve an instant win - so the possibility of the game being over or Button/Monkey being removed from the game were both high, so why track Button? At the very least he'd be targeting/being targeted by Monkey which would lead to a very fast spread of that color amongst the available players.

Then, on Day 3, you were arguing for a Monkey lynch and saying that Button would be useful - Button the player you suspected enough to track the night before.

I'm just not really following the logic - any insights to help me out here?

N2, what could I do? Why

not

track Button? I didn't think Monkey would make it through the next day considering the way they zerged the lynch, so he wouldn't be an optimal choice. Its not like I could block or stop Button or Monkey from getting their win condition. I did the only thing I could do. I wanted to get my hand in the pie somehow so that later on I could confirm any possible actions done by Button. Button also claimed vig, which I thought was pretty 'convenient'. I was torn about him. This is when my thought process about button's usefullness kicked in, I was hoping we could keep him around so I could confirm him. - But all of this is moot anyway because you blocked everyone.

Does that make sense?

I am Dead Bowie.

I can convince a player not to kill someone, so that if they target a player to kill they don't shoot instead.

At the end of Day One I wasn't entirely sure who would be best to target so I choose to Pull a Heist on the first night and build up more points. Having the extra resources to use my ability an extra time later in the game has more value than using it earlier and having to waste a later night spent rebuilding points when my action could be much more important.

The second night I chose TheButtonmen. He was the one who claimed the killing power between himself and Monkeyman576 and I hoped that by stopping his kill it may disrupt their win condition.

Last night I chose McGriddle as he was most suspicious to me of the remaining players. If McGriddle is scum he is most likely not scum alone as he could not have performed last night's kill.

Thor665, you're up next.

How many points does your ability take?

Why did you think blocking his kill would disrupt his win condition - didn't Button say he was dependent on Monkey targetting him? How did you think that would work?

will post more later

[Thor665]

Before rewq, eh? Well at least now I know why I hate SOG since as Dead Bowie he is my hated nemesis;

Nameclaim: Fake Thomas Jefferson

I have a couple of powers;

Vice President - as long as I maintain a certain number of villain points I am a double voter. (I am currently not a double voter)

Filibuster - a mass roleblock.

Capital Punishment - I remove the 'Disrupt the Mayor' Public Deed from the game and usurp the mayor. It requires Hero Points, not Villain Points and awards me Villain points when I do it.

Actions

Night 1 - I committed the Public Deed Volunteer at Homeless Shelter.

Night 2 - Mass Roleblock

Night 3 - I committed the Public Deed Volunteer at Homeless Shelter.

@rewq

You're the final claim.

[semioldguy]

It takes two.

TheButtonmen claimed to have targeted someone who didn't die with his kill attempt while MonkeyMan576 claimed to have targeted Doombunny with his search, who did die. I was thinking that MonkeyMan576 directed where TheButtonmen's kill went and would win by selecting TheButtonmen because it would force TheButtonmen to kill himself. My thinking was that if I could stop TheButtonmen from killing himself maybe they wouldn't win. I couldn't be sure that it would work that way but it was the only thing I could even try at that point.

[semioldguy]

Vote: Timeater

[Timeater]

What the flying smurf?

[semioldguy]

The vote has been sitting there a while which makes me think that either Snow_Bunny or Timeater must be scum, since if they were both town then rewq455 and Thor665 would have jumped on the wagon and finished the game by now. I think Snow_Bunny is town which means Timeater is scum.

[Timeater]

You aren't even waiting for rewq to claim?

*waits for thor to ninja me*

Vote: Snow Bunny

safety vote.

[Timeater]

am I dead? I thought McGriddles vote got reset when rewq replaced in, leaving only snow bunny on me?

[semioldguy]

I know that rewq455 can't be scum by himself. I really doubt that rewq445 and Thor665 are scum together. So if he is scum, he has to be partnered with you or Snow_Bunny. If he isn't scum then you and Snow_Bunny are either scum bussing each other or one of you is partners with Thor665.

Alternatively, if there is only one scum left, it can't be McGriddle. If it's Thor665 he would give himself away by hammering and we wouldn't lose anyway.

[Timeater]

The vote has been sitting there a while which makes me think that either Snow_Bunny or Timeater must be scum, since if they were both town then rewq455 and Thor665 would have jumped on the wagon and finished the game by now. I think Snow_Bunny is town which means Timeater is scum.

I thought we were waiting for claims?

[rewq455]

Name claim: Moist

I have 2 villain points

Points

Soak- At night I can select a player, who will then lose a hero/villain point. This will cost 1 villain point.

Plague- I can chose a player to lose all powers, and get the power "Soak". I need a minimum of 10 villain points to use this power.

I am not sure about the night actions of my predecessor.

@ Mod: Can you send me a PM saying McGriddle's night actions?

[iLord]

Vote Count the Third

Timeater (2): Snow_Bunny, semioldguy
Snow_Bunny (1): Timeater
Not Voting (3):, Snow_Bunny_Is_Awesome, Thor665, rewq455,

With six alive, it's three to lynch.

Deadline at June 14th 8:00 PM EST.

[rewq455]

*in the previous post, the title points should say powers

[semioldguy]

rewq455 is not scum unless it's with Timeater.

[Timeater]

I know that rewq455 can't be scum by himself. I really doubt that rewq445 and Thor665 are scum together. So if he is scum, he has to be partnered with you or Snow_Bunny. If he isn't scum then you and Snow_Bunny are either scum bussing each other or one of you is partners with Thor665.

Alternatively, if there is only one scum left, it can't be McGriddle. If it's Thor665 he would give himself away by hammering and we wouldn't lose anyway.

Or snow bunny could be the final scum? The one whos roleclaim makes the least sense and can easily be confirmed?

I'm L-1. I am not fucking scum. The only person who's stepped up that I can confirm is you. Why are you so afraid?

[Timeater]

holy shit this is moving fast. reading last 3 posts

[rewq455]

iLord sent me my night actions

N1- McGriddle used soak on Doombunny
N2- McGriddle did not do anything
N3- McGriddle used soak on TheButtonmen

Also, there was a mistake in my original PM. Instead of having 2 villain points, I have none.

[semioldguy]

I thought we were waiting for claims?

I did. Thor665 was the last to claim.

McGriddle had claimed (though it was removed and not seen). But the fiasco in general combined with my result on him from last night had me leaning innocent on him.

[Thor665]

Okay, so rewq cannot be scum unless he's scum with Timeater.
By me not insta hammering I can also not be scum unless I'm scum with Timeater.
Both Snow Bunny and Timeater cannot be town because otherwise the scum could have both had enough time to hop on that vote.
Timeater and Snow Bunny could be scum together bussing, but that seems odd considering some of their interactions.
SOG could be scum, but he's not likely to be scum with Timeater.
I personally do not think rewq is scum at all.

So scumpairs are;

Timeater/rewq
Snow Bunny/SOG
SB/Timeater

I think i need to consider this a bit, but we are near a lynch now.

rewq - any thoughts?

[Timeater]

SOG + Bunny scumteam? I dont know. Or is it Bunny or SOG? Ffffff

Thor, this is where you show your true colors. REWQ EASY WITH THE TRIGGER FINGER THERE

I dont understand. If soak costs 1 point and plague costs 10, shouldn't you have like 8+ or something?

[quote="SOG"]I did. Thor665 was the last to claim.

McGriddle had claimed (though it was removed and not seen). But the fiasco in general combined with my result on him from last night had me leaning innocent on him.[quote]

uh, no... Are you saying you saw Griddle's claim? Also, were you working under the assumption that griddle's vote was active?

[Timeater]

Thor \
= no hammer on me = not scum
Rewq /

I am assuming a Bunny + SOG scumteam, I think its prudent SOG be lynched over Bunny. If they are together and we go Bunny over SOG and she has some ability that saves her, ouchietime.

UNVOTE:
VOTE SOG

God this is stressful.

[semioldguy]

Thor665 is not scum unless he is scum with Timeater.

Timeater must be scum unless there is only one scum left.

No, I was working under the assumption that his vote was not active. There had been a votecount after his placed vote and after he was replaced out and his vote was not reflected.

[Thor665]

uh, no... Are you saying you saw Griddle's claim? Also, were you working under the assumption that griddle's vote was active?

I think if SOG thought McGriddle's vote was active he would have been more...I dunno, victorious sounding in his post?

His logic for clearing rewq is very similar to mine (and yours). The method of the claim and iLord's issues suggests it probably wasn't a quoted scum PM. The problem is if the scum were actually given fakeclaims to make or powers. Still, if rewq definitely didn't do the NK then in some ways that does make him statistically less likely to be scum then the rest of us.