Nox wrote:Alright. Anyone claiming that Hey_herb's visions was sufficient to help the town, coupled with Mackay's rolename finding ability, is out of their MINDS.
Well, it's really PeaceBringer's fault that we didn't get much useful from him, innit? He only used his ability twice -- and once he used it on someone who'd already claimed. Regardless, I am not out of my mind -- I know for a fact that tss is not a sane alignment cop. How? Because his result on me is WRONG!!
Nox wrote:Besides, you say that there would be two roleblockers, yet no decent cop?
If by "you" you mean "MeMe" -- I don't completely trust Lee. But I do think that if there's not a sane alignment cop, 1 1/2 role blockers might well be one of the ways that DP balanced things.
Nox wrote:All I know is that MeMe seems to me as if she's modeling the facts to make people believe what she wants them to believe- That she's innocent.
Please point to a place where a "modeled" a fact!
Nox wrote:As for inhim saving a lynch, It doesnt matter to me. One way or the other. If we lynch LmL and inhim saves, inhim is proven innocent. If he doesnt, scum die.
Put "Leo" where you have "LmL" and I agree.
Nox wrote:But of course, MeMe wouldnt want the latter, seeing as it would kill off her scum partner.
Nox -- please don't forget that I've offered up myself. Again -- if Lee's innocent, scum want him dead because he's a BLOCKER. If you think I'm scum with Lee, why not vote
me
?? I can barely believe what's going on here.
Commodore Amazing wrote:MeMe wrote:LoudmouthLee wrote:Give me a chance to prove my role.
The only irrefutable proof would be if you block scum, so I hope that's what you're planning to try.
It would be nice to have Lee block scum, but it's not irrefutable. If Lee's scum, the scum can opt not to kill. You shouldn't have missed this...
You're right, I shouldn't have missed this. I shouldn't have missed this regardless of alignment, though.
CA wrote:I'm leaning towards lynching Lee and having inHim save him.
But where will we be tomorrow if inHim's SCUM and Lee's INNOCENT?? Dead, that's where. And, further, where will we be tomorrow if inHim's INNOCENT and Lee's SCUM?? With no information. Why why can't you all see that holding tss accountable for his result makes sense...and that, if tss is scum, Leo's got to be WITH him??
CA wrote: It's hard for me to hold Leo at fault for changing his mind, since I'm doing the same thing. I'm pretty ready to vote.
But did you do it in the space of several minutes? Do you really not find it odd that he went from "No way is IS Cop" to "IS is definitely cop" as quickly as he did?? It's ludicrous.
Leonidas wrote:MeMe wrote:Therefore, it is my conclusion that...
--I'm the logical lynch for town who believes tss to be a sane cop.
--Leonidas is the logical lynch for those who don't believe that. There's a
case
for tss -- but if tss is scum, it's pretty clear that Leonidas has to be scum
with
him.
But Leo can be scum
without
tss, making him the sounder choice.
Blatant lie. If TSS is not scum, he's a cop, and since Nanook's death, we know he's sane. Meaning I'm innocent (and you're scum - which you already know).
So I
cannot
be scum without TSS.
A pro-town MeMe would not have done that mistake. You're definitely scum, but it should be clear to everyone by now.
Leonidas -- for a second be reasonable, and read my posts, please. What I know for sure (for the zillionth time) is that tss's claimed result on me is wrong. He has said himself that I'm either scum with an ability (and if we're to believe NINE TOWNIES, it'd just be cruel to think DP buff up the scum with powers) a "really good guesser" (and I'd have to be extraordinary to come up with anything accurate for you seeing as you were so dang lurky up until today) or there's something "splendidly weird" going on.
It is my opinion that IF IS is pro-town, he could be affecting his own results because he's known as a guy who tenaciously sticks to an opinion regardless of logic.
Still, if you think he's "proven sane" then why is there any skittishness from those of you who believe that in putting your lives into inHim's hands?
Commodore Amazing wrote:inHimshallibe wrote:What if it's tss, LML, MeMe?
It's definitely possible. I was thinking it was both tss and Lee for a while, and now I'm starting to think MeMe's in on it too.
And if you think it's tss/Lee/me -- please lynch tss. We'll find out the MOST that way. Secondarily, lynch me. Thirdly, lynch Lee.
inHimshallibe wrote:Great catch, Leonidas. And this is the reason she's using to push suspicion off of tss and onto Leonidas? She's protecting him.
What the heck are you talking about here, inHim? I'm protecting tss? And where did Leo "catch" that??
I wish everyone would just take a deep breath and read the thread through -- beginning to end. Please.
And CA -- do you understand the thing about the visions now? You said PB's vision cleared Nox...I pointed out that's not true since DP specified it'd relate to actions taken on a specific night. That's not discounting the role, it's striving for accuracy so that Nox & inHim's innocence isn't taken for granted. As for me calling it "strong," that's in conjunction with "night watchman" -- though I do think that three sane cops (of varying degrees of strength) PLUS a universal backup would be way too much -- as I'm assuming that DP knew I'd go for a power role as soon as I could.
Remember...It's not a lie if you believe it. -- G. Costanza