Vote: VibeBox
Though Chevre's L-1 vote was terrible.
Wow, it's been like 100 posts since you even talked to Vibebox. Have you got some reasons for this vote or are you just hopping on the only other bandwagon that isn't you? And what happened to your Elias/Sandman/Yabba suspect list?Thief wrote:Sorry, I meant
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Vote: VibeBox
Though Chevre's L-1 vote was terrible.
Try this:Azelf wrote:The use of this new numbering format was suggested to me; I'm going to see how it works out.
VOTES:
Chevre-L-5
Deer-L-5
MrSandman-L-5
Pie_is_good-L-5
Red Star-L-5
Thief-L-2(Unsight, Vibebox, Chevre)
VibeBox-L-3(Pie_is_good, Thief)
Unsight-L-5
yabbaguy-L-5
No Lynch-L-5
Okay... so are you saying we're just trying to reduce the probability of a mislynch? This instantly falls flat if scum fakeclaims. I agree, the game becomes very dangerous for Town if a mislynch occurs today, but at the same time, you have to think ahead. I really don't want to be in LyLo with investigation roles out of the game and likely the town they confirmed gone with them.@Yabba: With two kills a night, we're potentially very close to LyLo. Assuming 2 scum 1 SK, mislynch today + no cross-killing = 6 alive, 3 of which are scum. This isn't exactly LyLo, but it's close.
I abandoned my reads in favor of Pie who seems like he actually has read the thread carefully. I agree with his case on Vibe, and if he wants to Yabba (god knows why) then we can. Are you paying less attention than me?Unsight wrote:Wow, it's been like 100 posts since you even talked to Vibebox. Have you got some reasons for this vote or are you just hopping on the only other bandwagon that isn't you? And what happened to your Elias/Sandman/Yabba suspect list?Thief wrote:Sorry, I meant
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Vote: VibeBox
Though Chevre's L-1 vote was terrible.
Nailed it right on the head. Don't pretend this is anything more than a nulltell though it will just make you look stupid later.are you just hopping on the only other bandwagon that isn't you?
Maybe if you carefully read the thread yourself you could form some unique opinions instead of being a wagonhopper.Thief wrote:I abandoned my reads in favor of Pie who seems like he actually has read the thread carefully.
This sounds like scare tactics. Though I'm curious why you did jump on that bandwagon, if anything more than this reason.Thief wrote:Nailed it right on the head. Don't pretend this is anything more than a nulltell though it will just make you look stupid later.
*referee whistle*Also we're not starting with me, trust me.
I knew full well when I was posting them that they might look like that, but there was just nothing to discuss at the time.Pie wrote:-Decently-sized scum read on Vibebox. I have two independent points here, both of which hinge partially on his admission of being experienced. The first is minor, and it has to do with his "Let's Contribute More!" cheerleading posts. They come across to me as forced and telling the town what they want to hear without, y'know, contributing more himself.
When I asked for specifics this is what I meant. Pleas provide a string of posts in which you see the pattern of me "defending" RS from Jag.Pie wrote:The second is bigger, and it's that I've noticed significant buddying with Red Star. He doesn't start seriously attacking Jag until Jag goes after RS (and he revives his attack a bit when Jag later speaks ill of RS again). He also spends a decent amount of time entertaining RS's question string and meaningless ISO. One of the first things I thought upon reading RedStar was that he's your standard Logical Rampage type player, and if I were scum it would be very easy to get on his good side by entertaining his contributions and letting him play the role of Town Captain. I see VibeBox doing exactly that.
Thief wrote:Vote: Chevre
I just got put L-1 in one page.
Let's step back and use our fucking heads first.
Also I'm not claiming unless we massclaim.
This feels like you wanted to take an easy OMGUS for Chevre's awful vote, but then realized it was more beneficial to you to follow Pie's vote and try to pass it off as the same reason. You even aknowlege it was a blatant wagon vote and try to ward people off of holding it against you with non-logic.Thief wrote:Sorry, I meant
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Vote: VibeBox
Though Chevre's L-1 vote was terrible.
Please provide quote of instances when either of these was the main point against you. Feels like Strawman.Thief wrote: I should probably go back with the people that were setting up my D2 lynch. But if memory serves I thought derailing the SSBF wagon was the main point against me, but he didn't flip scum so now its the fact that I buddied with Pie and went for a lynch to help jumpstart this game.
Emphasis Added in Bold.yabbaguy wrote: Okay... so are you saying we're just trying to reduce the probability of a mislynch? This instantly falls flatif scum fakeclaims.I agree, the game becomes very dangerous for Town if a mislynch occurs today, but at the same time, you have to think ahead. I really don't want to be in LyLo with investigation roles out of the game and likely the town they confirmed gone with them.
Please restructure whatever points you were trying to make here in such a way that the sentences are actually coherent.yabbaguy wrote:Vibe, frankly, you haven't been helping much with the fact. Feeling sorry for yourself isn't an excuse.
I can just tell you're having a rough day today. Sorry to hear that. :\Please restructure whatever points you were trying to make here in such a way that the sentences are actually coherent.
On a scale from one to convincing, the defense "But I posted knowing that I might get attacked for them later!" gets a pretty weak.Vibebox wrote:I knew full well when I was posting them that they might look like that, but there was just nothing to discuss at the time.
To clarify, this isn't a bit of site lore; I kind of made it up on the spot.Vibebox wrote:Also, for my re-integration purposes can you explain exactly what you mean by "Logical Rampage Player"?
Is a very serious interpretation of RedStar's "ISOs" that actually resembled a subjective bit of summarizing. Similarly,VibeBox wrote:A couple of comments after going through all your ISOs, RS.
Odd that his only contribution to the game, questioning your self-labeled "pressure vote" in (2) & (4), is not even mentioned.Red Star wrote: Chevre
0- Fluff
1- RV Cuetlachti
2:3- Fluff
4- Asks where Empking has gone
5- Doesn't like case against Thief
But yeah, has basically posted nothing.
In (6), your "pressure vote" is again questioned, and you label fluff.Red Star wrote:Deer
6- Fluff
(8): I was questioning it actually. We had just had an exchange about it. The post does strike me as odd and defensive, but it wasn't as out of the blue as you imply.Red Star wrote:Empking
8- Tries to defend something no-one was questioning
RS, what would you say is Empking's scummiest postbesidesthe "Wagon Jag" post?
in reference to the same "assessments." My question for you is: did you really, at the time, think Red Star's ISOs had serious strategic value? If so, why? If not, why did you respond the way you did?VibeBox wrote:It would be a great treat for me if EVERYONE were to respond, at least in some way, to RS's assessments. We could nearly double the amount of relevant posts in the next 48 hours if this were to happen (, sadly).
It would be for scum. It would end all discussion and prevent the Town from gaining further information from the Day.Chevre wrote: I'm confused. Wouldn't that be a good thing?
Not really, no. Frankly I thought it was sloppy and poorly presented. I discussed it as seriously as I did because I was hoping that by discussing it heavily, and getting others to do so I could get a nearly universally abandoned game going, and possibly generate discussion of real value.Pie_is_good wrote: My question for you is: did you really, at the time, think Red Star's ISOs had serious strategic value? If so, why? If not, why did you respond the way you did?
While I am experienced, I was also clear that I am just coming back to the game, and am probably quite rusty. My experience told me that stagnant games were deadly for Town, and even discussion of little value was better than nothing. I think there is ample evidence of this mindset in my pointed questions to RS, and attempts to get others to respond in any way.Pie_is_good wrote:To be clear, my underlying accusation here is that VibeBox, as scum, saw RedStar's posting as an opportunity to get on RedStar's good side and appear to the town at large to be contributing without actually doing so. I think a reading of VibeBox's posting as genuine - i.e., that he really thought RedStar was adding some good content - is inconsistent with his claims of experience.