IP wrote:Oh, and it's just funny how you suspected Hoopla, then thought she was town on the massclaim day (Gwyn lynch day too IIRC), then thought she was scum when you were sure it couldn't be Oso (and agreed with Hoopla on MS's interactions with Gwyn - lol), then switched back at mylo.
I don't recall ever proclaiming Hoopla town. I may have been resigned to put her in a town category at different points of the game (such as now) based on how strong my suspicions of others were...but until yesterday I have never discounted the possibility she was scum.
IP wrote:Again like I stated, you said that Hoopla would be more suspicious if TBM flipped town here.
What is your point? I'm basically saying that Hoopla's voting the same person I am gives me pause for thought but does not completely rule her out in my mind due to the potential for bussing (assuming TBM had been scum).
IP wrote:By the way, this post saying he finds Hoopla to be town, which goes against what he was talking about above also has what I believe to be an unnecessary comment that caught my eye: "TBM and Furry on Nikanor (may they rest in peace) ". Might be nothing major to some, but it's in the same vein of congratulating the doctor in my eyes.
I don't recall calling Hoopla town. But whether I called Hoopla town or not...what does my indecision about her alignment indicate? Other than I was undecided throughout the game on whether or not to believe the PGO claim? If my rest in peace comment comes across as scummy I don't know what to tell you. Just stating the obvious.
IP wrote:Oh, and again looking back through ISO, this is more of fitz deflecting suspicion back on to an attacker, except in a much harder and more obvious way this time.
Why is this a problem? I tend to suspect people who vote others (myself included) without providing any rationale whatsoever.
Also...as the topic of game set up tells has been on the agenda today...
This post where you mention an 8:3:1 set up as being only an assumed set up is quite insightful. Considering you made it weeks before Hoopla lays out the odds against the game being a 9:2:1 set up which you provide as the reason (ie defense) for questions Hoopla brings up in Post 654 and the basis for your knowledge of that set up. Ie. IP only knew of the 9:2:1 set up because Hoopla mentioned it....even though he (IP) alludes to a set up other than 8:3:1 much earlier in the game.
Whereas I'm still in
3 scum land weeks later and up until the Oso mislynch does not result in endgame.
tl:dr
- IP has shown an understanding of the game set up and a willingness to believe/pander to Hoopla throughout the game whereas I have been off the mark for the majority of the game and been uncertain of anyone's alignment except for Oso on D4...especially Hoopla's who I have suspected thoughout the game until D5/6. I have also consistently operated under the assumption there were three scum until it was blatantly obvious that wasn't the case (ie D5).