Open 231: My Name is Earl (Game Over)
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Are you suggesting there are actually four scum in this setup? (of course you aren't, I jest) How many scum do you think are in that list of four that you've identified?ConfidAnon wrote:Also, not liking howfourpeople converged on Adrien (XScorpion, nocase, Budja, AV) within the same time frame. Smells a little fishy.
But seriously, I don't think it's odd that we've all started picking up on AC. After all, due to his somewhat-lurky behaviour, I had been getting a neutral vibe from him because he hadn't really been posting much, in the way of townie or scummy posts. But his recent post with the unvoting was a tad suspect, and that caused me to pay more attention to him. I understand that you think my vote might be harsh based on his unvoting of Budja, but as I said to XS, it was that combined with an uneasy feeling from the rest of his post (especially his desire to vote for one of Beefster or XScorpion, without actually making an effort to get any reads on them)
Also, yes, I acknowledge that it can just be a mistake on his part, in which he thought that he had already voted, but even given this, why did he feel the need to clarify who he was unvoting? It seemed like he wanted to point out who he was allegedly voting, as though, perhaps, he had realised that he hadn't voted Budja and wanted to pull the wool over our eyes. I know that I didn't realise his vote was elsewhere until I ISO'd him recently.THE LEMON LIVES! - Cabd-
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I'm really not a fan of this defense from 2 pages back. See italicized notes.nocase wrote:
coward.Adrien C wrote:I'm in too many games and it's affecting my performance here. I'm replacing out.
This just seems odd to me- attacking him over replacing out? It happens.
i know who you are, son.ConfidAnon wrote:Also nocase . . . I am nadroj15.
wow, i've never been called manipulative before. do you mind if i quote that? sort of cool.beefster wrote:Lately, nocase has given me bad vibes. He seems kinda... manipulative.
Sure, g'head. I still find you suspicious, though.
really? where?He's not very good about his reasoning
everywhere. I'll answer this better next time I post.
subtle? i'm even more pleased. i never considered subtlety my forte. i don't see how i was being subtle, either, but i'll take it for what it works. thanks, bud.he baits scumhunting in a really subtle way
hiding something?
i always contribute.by trying to look like he's contributing to the discussion
Eh. I worded it wrong. You're contributing to the conversation, but not the discussion. (if that makes any sense)
lolwut?It's like he's an IC in a newbie game who uses his IC status to hide his role.
See my newbie game where I played as scum with Oman. He was accused of doing it...
you seem to have a fundamental misconception about my convo with xscorpion. i'm not trying to appear to be coaxing him into hunting scum. i'm demonstrating that he's not reacting to things in a way that a townie with a vested interest in hunting scum ought to. i'd hoped you might perceive on your own, but regardless - if i had explicitly pointed it out earlier then i wouldn't have gained the fruit of the extended convo, which is this: i repeatedly prodded xscorpion for a stance on adrien c's alignment based on adrien's recent maneuver (which xscorpion even interpreted as "getting other people to scumhunt for him"), and xscorpion repeatedly refused to give one. he didn't interpret adrien as being scum, or "lazy" scum, or town, or "lazy" town. he didn't even make it clear that the whole thing was a null tell. nope. he just concluded adrien a lazy bastard, which on its own is a thousand percent irrelevant to adrien's alignment.
In general, it seems like nocase is trying to defend himself without looking like it's even a problem. It's like he was expecting suspicion on him or something.
Aside from that, I see his point on XS.
As for Budja, short day 1s are BAAD- as it's when the base of all evidence from everyone comes out. After that, day length becomes more and more trivial. We lynch when we feel ready. Consider yourself at the top of my scumlist, along with nocase.On hiatus indefinitely. This was a nice distraction when I was working through my faith transition out of Mormonism, but I need to move on to bigger and better things now.
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At the top of the page you voted for him. You are now on Budja, true, but you were one of the four AC votes on the page.XScorpion, 275 wrote:Since when was I voting Adrien?
No way I would suggest four scum. I wouldn't be surprised for there to be one scum (at least, but probably not more than one) in the group.AV, 276 wrote:Are you suggesting there are actually four scum in this setup? (of course you aren't, I jest) How many scum do you think are in that list of four that you've identified?
But seriously, I don't think it's odd that we've all started picking up on AC. After all, due to his somewhat-lurky behaviour, I had been getting a neutral vibe from him because he hadn't really been posting much, in the way of townie or scummy posts. But his recent post with the unvoting was a tad suspect, and that caused me to pay more attention to him. I understand that you think my vote might be harsh based on his unvoting of Budja, but as I said to XS, it was that combined with an uneasy feeling from the rest of his post (especially his desire to vote for one of Beefster or XScorpion, without actually making an effort to get any reads on them)
Also, yes, I acknowledge that it can just be a mistake on his part, in which he thought that he had already voted, but even given this, why did he feel the need to clarify who he was unvoting? It seemed like he wanted to point out who he was allegedly voting, as though, perhaps, he had realised that he hadn't voted Budja and wanted to pull the wool over our eyes. I know that I didn't realise his vote was elsewhere until I ISO'd him recently.-
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okay, sigmund freud.AurorusVox wrote:why did he feel the need to clarify who he was unvoting? It seemed like he wanted to point out who he was allegedly voting, as though, perhaps, he had realised that he hadn't voted Budja and wanted to pull the wool over our eyes.-
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-What has made it less likely that there are scum in that group than before?ConfidAnon wrote:
Given the individuals in it, yes, although not as likely as before.XScorpion, 283 wrote:Still think there is at least one scum amongst that group of THREE?
-You said that you thought there was probably only one, even when the group consisted of four players. This would assume that three players are town who have been convinced to vote for another town aligned player. Isn't it more likely that just two town players would be convinced to mislynch, as opposed to three making this mistake?
-Do you think that the votes on Adrien are because of a particular player's arguments, or because of Adrien's actions themselves?THE LEMON LIVES! - Cabd-
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oh? that's it? lol. go-go gadget laziness.Beefster wrote:
that post was hardly serious. you should have the mental capacity to grasp as much. if you don't then i don't know how you even made it here in the first place. no offense, sir.nocase wrote:
coward.Adrien C wrote:I'm in too many games and it's affecting my performance here. I'm replacing out.
This just seems odd to me- attacking him over replacing out? It happens.
answer it now, whelp. stop ducking and dodging and procrastinating. if you are not going to intelligently answer the questions directed toward you then do not answer at all. likewise, if you are not going to intelligently post then do not post at all.everywhere. I'll answer this better next time I post.
www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sarcasm - educate yourself.hiding something?
i have a vested disinterest in theory bs half the players here are wading into and i have an even more vested disinterest in the vacuous "discussion" you specifically have partaken in. i am producing game-relevant content and i am hunting scum. the two go hand in hand. i'm satisfied with it. if you're not then you should take a long hard look at your own output. it does not impress.Eh. I worded it wrong. You're contributing to the conversation, but not the discussion. (if that makes any sense)
wow.See my newbie game where I played as scum with Oman. He was accused of doing it...
1. this is not a newbie game.
2. as such, there are no ics.
3. non-newbie games are a notch above newbie games.
4. i am not oman. i do not commit the same standard scum tells as him - as if there are any consistent standard scum tells to speak of in the first place. if you want to treat your games like newbie games then go back to the newbie queue.
you ignored the bulk of my defense. awesome mode of argument, bud.I'm really not a fan of this defense from 2 pages back. See italicized notes.
you had JUST fosed me. there's no expectation involved. jesus christ.In general, it seems like nocase is trying to defend himself without looking like it's even a problem. It's like he was expecting suspicion on him or something.
Aside from that, I see his point on XS.
adrien was a shred ahead of you on my hit list, but this is beyond insufferable. your logic sucks, your lazy show of scum hunting bleeds through every pore of your existence, you dodge very basic questions, and your attempts to cover up your lack of reasoning with rhetoric induce headaches.unvote. vote: beefster.get lynched please.-
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-Pure numbers, nothing more.AV, 288 wrote:-What has made it less likely that there are scum in that group than before?
-You said that you thought there was probably only one, even when the group consisted of four players. This would assume that three players are town who have been convinced to vote for another town aligned player. Isn't it more likely that just two town players would be convinced to mislynch, as opposed to three making this mistake?
-Do you think that the votes on Adrien are because of a particular player's arguments, or because of Adrien's actions themselves?
-I said probably at least one, because I have some suspicion of both nocase and Budja.
-It could be both. A mafioso won't needlessly bandwagon unless the player has given them reasons to be bandwagoned. The votes themselves are a null-tell, but as I said, I am already suspicions of nocase and Budja.
I agree, but it can still be a scumtell.Budja, 289 wrote:Wagoning is good (@Xscorp, within reason).-
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Vote Count #7
Adrien C (2) - Budja, AurousVox
AurorusVox (0) -
Beefster (2) - Col.Cathart, nocase
Budja (1) - XScorpion
Col.Cathart (0) -
ConfidAnon (0) -
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nocase (2) - Beefster, ConfidAnon
XScorpion (1) - d3x
Not Voting (1)- Adrien C
With 9 players alive it takes 5 to lynch.
I am looking for a replacement for Adrien C
Deadline is July 30 ~12 pm EDTTown 15-19
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@nocase: here's where you lack reasoning. I'm a procrastinator. Get used to it.
ISO0, I presume RVS. No reason, not even a BS reason.
ISO4, you say no to the Earl massclaim. which would be fine if you put down a reason even as simple as "it benefits scum more than town"
ISO9, you state that there is a difference between scummy and anti-town, but don't go into any detail on your definition. It wasn't until later, whensomeone elsedefined it by his definition.
ISO21: BS reason. You don't even point out anything specific in the previous posts which you seem to imply as references.
ISO25: saying something is dumb isn't good enough for me.
ISO26: HYPOCRISY! I don't see YOU being very specific, just concise.
ISO28, you point the finger at Adrien C for not knowing who to target and don't explain WHY you find it to be scummy.
ISO33: I still feel that at this point, you have failed to adequately explain why, specifically, you're voting on XS and why you want votes on him so badly.
A'ight. That covers it for now. I'll be back in a bit to defend myself on your biggest post thus far.
About the IC thing... I know this isn't a newbie game, but you don't have to troll me for it. The IC explanation was the best way I could explain it, despite the fact that you have no status to hide behind. You still seem to exhibit a similar behavior, but in a more concise form.On hiatus indefinitely. This was a nice distraction when I was working through my faith transition out of Mormonism, but I need to move on to bigger and better things now.
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Examples please.nocase wrote:
coward.Adrien C wrote:I'm in too many games and it's affecting my performance here. I'm replacing out.
This just seems odd to me- attacking him over replacing out? It happens.
that post was hardly serious. you should have the mental capacity to grasp as much. if you don't then i don't know how you even made it here in the first place. no offense, sir.
I can't read your mind and sarcasm is nigh impossible to detect on the internet.
answer it now, whelp. stop ducking and dodging and procrastinating. if you are not going to intelligently answer the questions directed toward you then do not answer at all. likewise, if you are not going to intelligently post then do not post at all.everywhere. I'll answer this better next time I post.
Nah. I just didn't feel like opening an ISO tab at the time to take a closer look. I kept to my word, didn't I.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sarcasm - educate yourself.hiding something?
Seeing as sarcasm DOESN'T work over the internet, you could at least use a
i have a vested disinterest in theory bs half the players here are wading into and i have an even more vested disinterest in the vacuous "discussion" you specifically have partaken in. i am producing game-relevant content and i am hunting scum. the two go hand in hand. i'm satisfied with it. if you're not then you should take a long hard look at your own output. it does not impress.Eh. I worded it wrong. You're contributing to the conversation, but not the discussion. (if that makes any sense)
evidence?
wow.See my newbie game where I played as scum with Oman. He was accused of doing it...
1. this is not a newbie game.
2. as such, there are no ics.
3. non-newbie games are a notch above newbie games.
4. i am not oman. i do not commit the same standard scum tells as him - as if there are any consistent standard scum tells to speak of in the first place. if you want to treat your games like newbie games then go back to the newbie queue.
Dude! Back off with the trolling! Newbie games usually have shorter waits, and thus I have a lot more of them under my belt. It was merely an analogy to try to explain why I find your behavior suspicious. *COUGH* Chainsaw Defense *COUGH*
you ignored the bulk of my defense. awesome mode of argument, bud.I'm really not a fan of this defense from 2 pages back. See italicized notes.
I always do that. I don't have the time to go through every point, especially points I find to be nulltells.
you had JUST fosed me. there's no expectation involved. jesus christ.In general, it seems like nocase is trying to defend himself without looking like it's even a problem. It's like he was expecting suspicion on him or something.
I coulda sworn I had a VOTE on you...
oh? that's it? lol. go-go gadget laziness.Aside from that, I see his point on XS.
In that post, I was focusing on attacking YOUR defense. I generally like to show both sides of every argument, despite only representing one. (I give representation most of the effort, and a small amount of effort goes to simply showing the other side.)
adrien was a shred ahead of you on my hit list, but this is beyond insufferable. your logic sucks, your lazy show of scum hunting bleeds through every pore of your existence, you dodge very basic questions,
HYPOCRISY!and your attempts to cover up yourlack of reasoningwith rhetoric induce headaches.unvote. vote: beefster.get lynched please.
confirm vote: nocaseOn hiatus indefinitely. This was a nice distraction when I was working through my faith transition out of Mormonism, but I need to move on to bigger and better things now.
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Rhinox replaces Adrien C effective immediatelyTown 15-19
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My skim tells me that I'm still ok with Beefy and/or XS getting the rope.
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