Mini 1012: Mafia In Soraville (Game Over!)

[Kov]

/confirm

[Kov]

"Roles randomly Distributed" So we don't know possible formats?
(Im pretty new )

[Kov]

Twomz we haven't met in fact... Hi everyone who i have never met before

vote: Twomz

Don't OMGUS please

[Kov]

Four new pages really...

I have just scimmed and i was joking about Twomz OMGUSing me. Just because his initial RVS vote was there because he thought he hadn't met HC. I pointed out i hadn't met him either then voted him. All RVS ill post more later ( Just slept for 13 hours )

[Kov]

DH on L1(90% sure) so watch it people... ill analyse more later

[Kov]

Unvote

[Kov]

I cant count

[Kov]

So... Doing these for people i think are a bit scummy

Jack

7 posts about 6 words max... 2 votes 2 V/LA notifications and an FOS

You conviently FOS:Twomz after he voted for you claiming you forgot. And to be honest IMO, it was bad play. And could you please say why your voting even if it's only a little? After your V/LA i want a long post.

DH

People find it weird that he wants jack to talk. I find it weird that most of you don't.
Also please tell us who you "know" to go after and why town is pro-talk mafia isn't. And at this stage you can't "know" anything unless we have a day cop or something. The fact you say you do is odd/suspicous.

Vote:Jack

I really want you to talk when you can thanks

[Kov]

I hadn't posted mush because you were all talking between 12am and 7 am here.

[Kov]

Kov might be scum. I get a lurky feeling from him, as well as passive play...there's always a lurky scum. I have a feeling he's just waiting for everything to blow over because he doesn't know what to say...perhaps he's not too experienced (see his MafiaScum site history, he joined a few days ago)

Your calling me lurky Day 2 im in the UK the whole topic did 6 pages in one night for me...
I'm not waiting for anything to "blow over". And yes I really don't know what to say except, that I think Jack's play style seems like it will hurt town.

My only other thought is that Friend is town he seem's to be arguing everything which seems pro town to me.

Any more questions?

Oh, And Twomz Black Templars Ftw

[Kov]

To Kov: What do you think about TheLonging? Is he scum, town? What about his reaction to my scumlist? Curiosity.

It's suspicious he seem's to know that there's a Godfather that is Scummy but other than that not much.
His reaction to your scumlist is similar to what I would have if I was scum. I mean if you had pegged a few scum he might be nervous and trying to encourage a quick lynch on Jack.

I have no idea why your putting pressure on pie he doesn't seem scummy to me but maybe you all know his meta, some logic please i can't vote him without anything to go on?

I dislike the fact that Jack can get away with one post that encourages discussion and still say things like "Reasoning is an illusion." (possible the worst excuse ever used). Am I the only one that thinks reasoning is the only way to find scum... And Jacks play is not helpful he just votes with no reason. I think his lack of words/reasons and his playstyle is detrimental to town.

[Kov]

P.S. - Funny how I'm the only one suspicious of Jack

What? I voted for him...
I still think Jack isn't helping with his comments.

@DH: If you notice I didn't say TL seemed town i only made comments about how he acted scummy. I certainly didn't try too portray him as more town than scum if I did I'm sorry he is currently the second on my list after Jack.

Also all I can see IP did IMO is try to encourage votes on jack to put pressure on him.. Which is atm what I want. I want him to post more than a few sentences and explain his actions. And who knows maybe he is a traitor...

If he did something else please point there I need more than that, thanks.

[Kov]

@IP:So why do you think I'm scum because I took a neutral stance? since when was that a scum tell?
@DH: You say he is agreeing with you but if I remember you seem to think we were scum buddies?
On iPhone would respond more otherwise

[Kov]

I'm missing on the case on IP other than "he wants to policy lynch Jack" + "his scum list sucks"? Because I just don't get how so people are so sure he's scum and it's making me feel like a noobtown. ._.

This is exactly how i feel, except i'm pretty sure i'm noobtown anyway...

[Kov]

v/la 3 days

Are you actually v/la this time?

[Kov]

I'll wait till after count to post, if i can get on.

[Kov]

Vote:TheLonging

[Kov]

Vote:TheLonging

itt kov bandwagons without reasoning

Unvote

Vote: Kov

Never mind DH, Kov is the way to go.

OMGUS

[Kov]

Unvote

@Friend: I don't know about that.

Kov's vote for TL rings out as super scummy to me.

Kov is STILL chillin in the background and making bandwagon votes with absolutely no examples whatsoever.

So how is mine different from..

unvote, vote:Inflatable Pie

vote: Jack

However it's scummy you don't care if jack gives reasoning or not so right now im on DH & Jack as Scum. Yes my vote on TL was just to get DH to contradict himself. Therefore I think he is scum.

[Kov]

Um, right.

Except that Jack gave some reasoning

later on

and expressed why he was accusing Pie, perhaps in a quiet way, but at least he did.

My reason was to get you to show how you are contradicting yourself. See bolded. I did the same as Jack he votes and gives reasons much later. I decided to vote with no reasons to emulate Jack. You find it scummy for me but not for him. THAT'S WHAT A CONTRADICTION IS! Voting for TL means nothing against him I don't see as scummy. I choose him as it would draw most attention.

I see your post as a flat out lie. You would vote TL to get me to contradict myself?

Your wrong and Yes because I'm pretty sure you and Jack are buddies.

[Kov]

Shorter version of above: it has NOTHING to do with TheLonging.

This is true.

I really wasn't expecting a wagon on DH I was hoping for a Jack one.

WAIT

DH WAGON IS FINALLY TAKING OFF?

FUCK YES BEST THING EVER <33333

I live to serve.

It's 4am here i'll read rest tomorrow.

Post Preview: Shhh about dead horses.

I have a migraine.

now

Got it?

[Kov]

Tbh DH lynching you would give us the same if not more information than lynching Pie. I don't support that idea of an information lynch but I'm just going by your own logic. However flawed that logic may be.

If you flip town I would say I would get lynched day 2 just because of that Gambit however I would look closely at Friend as I think he could be scum who is agreeing with a townie to look more town.

If you flip scum. I hope to at least get some talk against, and out of, jack.

[Kov]

Were you trying to catch DH or were you trying to catch Jack?

Both

I saw something else that bugged me, as well, when reading Kov in isolation:

It's suspicious he [TL] seem's to know that there's a Godfather that is Scummy but other than that not much.

Although TL speculated about a godfather, that's quite different from KNOWING there's a Godfather. I don't KNOW that there's a godfather. Other townies don't KNOW that there's a Godfather. How do you know that TL is right about the Godfather?

I don't i was saying he

seems

to know which is me saying I don't know but he appears(prefer that word?) too know.

I'd like to hear more from Jack.

This is why i wanted to show the possibility of a Jack/DH pair. And why I'd prefer a jack wagon so he is forced to talk

Im bolded

What I was intending HC was that I would rather a jack wagon than a DH one, I was just trying to show everyone why DH is scummy. I was not expecting a wagon on DH, I was just hoping people would stop turning a blind eye. Understand now?

[Kov]

em... could you all maybe say why? quotes etc? cause I can't just say your votes are wrong but you both(buddies?) basically just voted for no reason?

[Kov]

em... could you all maybe say why? quotes etc? cause I can't just say your votes are wrong but you both(buddies?) basically just voted for no reason?

Wait, so we're not wrong?

If you want me to say: You're votes are wrong because I'm town.
I can but that's not a good defence I'll look at your argument tomorrow. Thanks r2r for pointing it out.

[Kov]

In fact its only one ill look now

[Kov]

546: is my response to HC but he didn't reply until he decided to vote me.

[Kov]

wait why would a claim stop you lynching?
I could claim a PR. Claims mean noting unless someone else can back them up(eg cop) and they can't do that first day