First time I am home without work in about two weeks.
Heres the ISO I promised. Bare with me, I've never done one before.
FG:
Day 1 summation:
Didn't really see content until about post 15
FakeGod wrote:@Jarti: Hey, other than Mouse asking you why he should vote Pom, I couldn't find this anti-Pom-lynch movement. Could you clarify?
Post 12 is a vote for a lurker but i don't see it as very full of content.
He continues joking until 19 where he decides to lynch BV for the same reason as his lurk vote in 12.
Back to joking again until... Post 25 where he votes Kit: This post bugs me slightly for this:
FakeGod wrote:bv or kitoari, both are lurkish. Though normally I'm not for Lynch all lurkers, I don't mind doing it on day 1.
I just don't see how that would optimally benefit us on D1. There isn't much to go off of but resorting to wagonhopping lurkers isn't the best way. I also noticed that his only non-lurker willing to lynch is Pom. He even wanted to lynch Timeater who hadn't showed yet. He sets the dram lynch and basically checks out for the day.
FakeGod wrote:
Alm's not making this up.
Unvote, Vote: Dramonic
Day 2 summation:
I like his play more on this day than the first. He is active more often but his posts are also more useful than they were previously.
He spends much of the day trying to back up his claim such as Post 74:
FakeGod wrote:Paraphrasing.......
alright, my role PM says I am a VT and also a sibling. and then something about Brooklyn(?) and apparently I have no actual powers since Yugi saves my butt all the time. Also, I know my sister Serenity (chronopie) is town, but I cannot secretly communicate to her in any way.
I also checked with the mod pregame whether I or Serenity would suffer bad consequences (like dying the next night or something) if one of us was killed, but he said no, so we ain't lovers or anything like that.
We don't have any powers or penalties other than that we know each other is town.
Preview: we're not Masons, but just VTs who knows each other.. Chrono would've flipped mason if we were masons
I tend to believe this claim to an extent, I can see this role occurring although his town play gives me a tiny bit of pause.
He ramps up in content when the votes pile up:
on Post 80 he makes a wallpost that does double duty as a "im innocent" and a "he's guilty" post.
While I don't approve of the way this was done, mostly due to some quite appropriate points, I'm not sure I like some of the WIFOM such as "do you think I would do X if I were Y?". However he does bring up a good point in Charter trying to rush up FG's wagon.
HOWEVER... I noticed something in his most recent post:
FakeGod wrote:But this is a development I welcome, since I don't trust Max. (my train of thought can be found around post 280~290 I think)
While I don't mind you mentioning your suspicion of me, I checked your posts and I found no such support to this comment unless you count the singular post mentioning when I voted for Dram. There wasn't much of an expansion on this.
Following that it seems a bit WIFOMy in this:
The way that he continually asks people to restate their case against him and so on, even after people on his wagon went after chasing another target (me in this case), seems to me as that he is a townie who is eager to clear his name, not a scum who wouldn't attract attention to himself.
However this leads me to charter: This latest post of his, ironically noticed during this ISO, has given me pause. At first I was thinking "Well its kind of odd, both of the previous lynch targets seem to be looking at me..." Heres what I found:
Quick Charter ISO:
He has 36 posts, but lets be honest there was a decent amount of content in them.
Intial Posts: RVS, not terribly concerned with this.
Post 7: Vote for Kit, similar to FG's lurker posts but with a bit of difference.
charter wrote:unvote, vote Kit
I feel like his posts are all just active lurking. He's posting for the sake of posting, not much else.
Beloved's post was full of null, thanks to all those disbanding the wagon for her.
Also suspicious of Pom, I think twice now she's questioned 'wagons' but for no reason other than it's a wagon. She's not doing the town questioning of it, but the scum kind.
He goes after an active or somewhat light lurker rather than his suspicion of someone who he says is doing something scummy.
I ask to elaborate, and he does:
This sticks out.
charter wrote:She also just laid down a lurker vote on Bv, but didn't mention our other lurker, Beloved. A lurker vote at this time is a pretty safe thing to do if you're scum. No one is going to question voting for a lurker, because lurking should be punished, but at the same time, she isn't asking Bv any questions or giving him any reason to post. She's just keeping her nose clean. I see this was in response to Alamaster asking her who she's suspicious of, and she comes back with the lurker vote and nothing else.
Here is the part of this post I don't like: The post DIRECTLY prior to this post, he votes for a lurker after saying this is a scummy thing to do (and not voting for the person who is doing it).
Here is something I noticed Fishy did not point out yet says I have done and finds it scummy.
ISO 14: Charter votes for me saying I have active lurked. Expands very very breifly for one post in ISO 16 and then jumps on FG for the reasons stated in my ISO. He says that he isn't opposed to the Dram wagon but doesn't like the people voting for it. This comes across as mildly fence sitting. FG however has no votes on him at this point aside from his.
That brings me to ISO 25. Remember this as this will come up later:
charter wrote:
I think it's unlikely that Maxmouse is scum, largely due to his vote for Dramonic in 228. If he was scum, that'd have been the perfect time to vote someone else and push for their lynch instead of Dramonic's.
ISO 34:
I like Fishy's entrance, drawing attention to Maxmouse I see as very protown, since there's the easy targets of myself and FakeGod, and I know I'm town, and I think he is as well, but he doesn't go after us. Fishy's points about MaxMouse are pretty good, especially the one about MaxMouse bussing Dramonic.
I find this post a bit odd for two reasons.
1) Charter mentions you think that FakeGod is town.
Yet in ISO 30, charter's last content post before 34 you said
charter wrote:FakeGod is making this extremely difficult to believe he is town with how he's acting
I feel like charter just went after him and then flipped the second Fishy came in.
2) Remember the post I asked y'all to remember?
He literally goes against it right there. He just complimented Fishy on something he mentioned that earlier he said I was likely town for and calls it a good point. Earlier this was the reason that I was "unlikely to be scum". Sudden change?
Here is what I would like before I put down a vote on one of these two. I would like to see these two directly address the above ISOs as well as anyone who was looking for a reason to see their posts.
I will have a vote by tomorrow.
((Out of game comment: Was this a decent ISO? I'd like feedback.))
Preview Edit:
AlmasterGM wrote:
People are usually bad at casing and just throw around votes. These are the worst kinds of votes for scum because there is the danger of a wagon forming without them being able to do anything to refute it. So they ask for the case.
Agree completely. This is addition to the reason that I think the statement from FG was a bit of WIFOM.