TheLonging wrote:We Made You by Eminem. Listening to Recovery, so amazing. Maybe we could lynch DH while I'm listening to it
You're saying how scummy I am, yet you're voting for Pie.
TheLonging wrote:We Made You by Eminem. Listening to Recovery, so amazing. Maybe we could lynch DH while I'm listening to it
1. Jack is much more experienced than me or, from the looks of it, Kov. I know that, at this point, I wouldn't have the guts to do what he did at the beginning of the game.DemonHybrid wrote:I just have a good feeling about him. He's staying out of the way, yet contributing just enough to keep discussion going geared towards hunting scum. He seems to know what he's doing and has a plan, and although if you take his posts at face value and see them as anti-town, you'd be missing the point of his play. Also, none of these reads would be possible without him. I think he's doing exactly what a townie should do. Compared to Kov and r2r, who post when called out solely + making weak contributions and then melting away. They're afraid to challenge whereas Jack's been pretty ballsy with his logic challenges. Jack is fine this game. Those bothered by him are scummy/newtown.Friend wrote:Well whatwouldyou do with them?
I'm intrigued by the solid town read on Jack, DH.
1. I have no clue if this is a joke or not, and I hope it is.ready2rock wrote:Right now, I think that one of {TL, pie, DH} is scum. Right now I'm leaning towards DH, but I'm not sure.
1.Also, Fugi's meta is very simple and can be tested. Townfugi dies night 1 and scumfugi doesn't.
1. Jack is much more experienced than me or, from the looks of it, Kov. I know that, at this point, I wouldn't have the guts to do what he did at the beginning of the game.DemonHybrid wrote:I just have a good feeling about him. He's staying out of the way, yet contributing just enough to keep discussion going geared towards hunting scum. He seems to know what he's doing and has a plan, and although if you take his posts at face value and see them as anti-town, you'd be missing the point of his play. Also, none of these reads would be possible without him. I think he's doing exactly what a townie should do. Compared to Kov and r2r, who post when called out solely + making weak contributions and then melting away. They're afraid to challenge whereas Jack's been pretty ballsy with his logic challenges. Jack is fine this game. Those bothered by him are scummy/newtown.Friend wrote:Well whatwouldyou do with them?
I'm intrigued by the solid town read on Jack, DH.
2. The reason I'm bothered by him is that there isn't any way to tell whether he is town or scum because he posts so little. You can't honestly tell me that you have a solid read on him at this point.
Seriously, there is a lot of "woooooooosh over your head" this game with a lot of you guys...ready2rock wrote: 2. Generally, with experience comes confidence. When you're less experienced at something, you are slightly more hesitant to do something different because you're afraid that it might be way off base from what you're supposed to do and that people might be suspicious of you for it. That's what I meant by the fact that I didn't have the guts.
It's not....except for the fact that no one said anything about Kov until I voted for him and gave reasons why. And only you did. Everyone else "finds him neutral", I guess.InflatablePie wrote:Demon: Okay, so Kov is lurky and fencesitting. We agree on this. I don't get why it's so bad that I agree with you on something. Especially since Kov hasn't made a ton of posts either, so it's hard to offer original views. There are people on my wagon who have gone along with views of the others, do you suspect them a bit?
As was said earlier on the page:DemonHybrid wrote:EBWOP: Think of it this way:DemonHybrid wrote:Well, he's L-2. We can wait for a claim or just go for it with the information we have.
If Pie flips town, that's one mislynch (which happens nearly all the time anyway on D1). If he flips scum, that's one nearly-guaranteed scum in Kov who weakly slithered his way out of the conversation, and a big suspicion in TL who cracked and voted IP out of pressure, and that's a LOT to gain on Day 1 with such a small risk.
He also says his scummiest read is Pie when (from the looks of it), all he did was voice his suspicion of Jack (something to note if DH flips scum, maybe they planned the whole RVS thing in the QT?).esuriospiritus wrote:scum want town to end day 1 with as little information and reads as possible
1. Woosh. Confidence has nothing to do with being town. You need confidence if you're scum because you have something to hide. So yes, you saying that you'd need more confidence before you start contributing looks scummy.ready2rock wrote:1.@DH: You missed my original point, which was that Jack is more experienced than I am, and is therefore more confident than I am. You took that to mean that I "have something to hide".
2.On your point, we had this debate in SHM3 with METALfootball, and I'm starting to agree with him to an extent. You people all seem to think that the town answer to a wagon is to not care about it, or that you should somehow not defend yourself against suspicions because "only scum care about getting lynched". I don't agree that town should prevent their lynch just as much as scum should, but I do agree that allowing a mislynch because it's the "town thing to do" is against your win condition.
3.@Friend: He seems to hop on the largest bandwagon and seems to be calling everyone scum.
Pie
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Kov
Friend
TheLonging
esuriospiritus
It just seems like he's pointing fingers around for the sake of looking more pro-town.
...Oh, and this post:As was said earlier on the page:DemonHybrid wrote:EBWOP: Think of it this way:DemonHybrid wrote:Well, he's L-2. We can wait for a claim or just go for it with the information we have.
If Pie flips town, that's one mislynch (which happens nearly all the time anyway on D1). If he flips scum, that's one nearly-guaranteed scum in Kov who weakly slithered his way out of the conversation, and a big suspicion in TL who cracked and voted IP out of pressure, and that's a LOT to gain on Day 1 with such a small risk.He also says his scummiest read is Pie when (from the looks of it), all he did was voice his suspicion of Jack (something to note if DH flips scum, maybe they planned the whole RVS thing in the QT?).esuriospiritus wrote:scum want town to end day 1 with as little information and reads as possible
I like my case on DH, so I'll go ahead and VOTE: DemonHybrid.
By the way, I'm still waiting for the case on Pie as I still don't see it.
1. I don't mean that I'm not confident enough to contribute, I mean that I'm not confident enough to pull off a gambit like Jack did.DemonHybrid wrote:1. Woosh. Confidence has nothing to do with being town. You need confidence if you're scum because you have something to hide. So yes, you saying that you'd need more confidence before you start contributing looks scummy.ready2rock wrote:1.@DH: You missed my original point, which was that Jack is more experienced than I am, and is therefore more confident than I am. You took that to mean that I "have something to hide".
2.On your point, we had this debate in SHM3 with METALfootball, and I'm starting to agree with him to an extent. You people all seem to think that the town answer to a wagon is to not care about it, or that you should somehow not defend yourself against suspicions because "only scum care about getting lynched". I don't agree that town should prevent their lynch just as much as scum should, but I do agree that allowing a mislynch because it's the "town thing to do" is against your win condition.
3.@Friend: He seems to hop on the largest bandwagon and seems to be calling everyone scum.
Pie
me
Kov
Friend
TheLonging
esuriospiritus
It just seems like he's pointing fingers around for the sake of looking more pro-town.
...Oh, and this post:As was said earlier on the page:DemonHybrid wrote:EBWOP: Think of it this way:DemonHybrid wrote:Well, he's L-2. We can wait for a claim or just go for it with the information we have.
If Pie flips town, that's one mislynch (which happens nearly all the time anyway on D1). If he flips scum, that's one nearly-guaranteed scum in Kov who weakly slithered his way out of the conversation, and a big suspicion in TL who cracked and voted IP out of pressure, and that's a LOT to gain on Day 1 with such a small risk.He also says his scummiest read is Pie when (from the looks of it), all he did was voice his suspicion of Jack (something to note if DH flips scum, maybe they planned the whole RVS thing in the QT?).esuriospiritus wrote:scum want town to end day 1 with as little information and reads as possible
I like my case on DH, so I'll go ahead and VOTE: DemonHybrid.
By the way, I'm still waiting for the case on Pie as I still don't see it.
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I never said that one should allow themselves to be lynched if they're town. I said they shouldn't be -afraid- to be lynched. Not being afraid and being confident are two wildly different things. Not being afraid and not wanting to die are two different things. You guys are generalizing everything.
3. Cool, except that I never suspected esurio and I think Friend is town now. I never called Haschel scum, nor MvK. I said "I could see Twomz as being scum" and never said that I outwardly think that he is. I never thought Fugi was scum, just neutral. Me calling Jack scummy was at the beginning of D1 an*INSERT DEAD HORSE BEATING HERE*
Also, I never voted TL, so I can't see how I hopped on that bandwagon. I was the first to vote Friend (and the only one if I recall). The only one to vote Kov. I voted for Pie after I was absolutely sure that I felt that he was scum.
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