NY 117: The Vanillaside (Game over)

[MehPlusRawr]

HEY GUYS WE'RE STILL VIGGING RECK.

[MehPlusRawr]

YEAH REALLY.


ANYWAYS HERE'S TO A GAME ENTIRELY FULL OF SHOUTING AND NO GRAMMAR.

[MehPlusRawr]

WHEN I SAID NO GRAMMAR I MEANT SHOUTIN, A COMPLETE LACK OF PROPER CAPITALIZATION AND COMMAS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

[MehPlusRawr]

I'm shouted out and recovering from the blow that is not being innocentized.

So maybe you'll get some grammar and whatnots from me.

And a

vote: SSBF

Too many letters.

VOTE: SPYREX

WHY HAVEN'T YOU CAUGHT SCUM YET?

[MehPlusRawr]

Oh, hey, I don't feel like shouting. Let's wagon someone else. I have a feeling this MPR dude is town.

[MehPlusRawr]

Incog, why is that wagon better than others?

cuz I don't like MPR's post 18. If you look close enough at it, I'm sure you could figure out why.

TownSpyre would've caught scum by now. It's a perfectly reasonable post.

[MehPlusRawr]

...for RVS.

[MehPlusRawr]

Actually, I just couldn't figure out a way to say it in caps that didn't sound grammatically awkward. And yeah, anyone who gets voted 5 times in 5 posts gets concerned, unless they're a jester. Hi Elli.

[MehPlusRawr]

And no, I'm not *concerned* that I'll be lynched, as such. I figured that I should comment on the fact that I'm the closest to dying as of yet.

[MehPlusRawr]

Actually, I just couldn't figure out a way to say it in caps that didn't sound grammatically awkward. And yeah, anyone who gets voted 5 times in 5 posts gets concerned, unless they're a jester. Hi Elli.

And no, I'm not *concerned* that I'll be lynched, as such. I figured that I should comment on the fact that I'm the closest to dying as of yet.

Then what are you concerned about?

The second quote was attempting to rephrase the term "concerned," because though it's obviously a matter of interest to me that I'm being wagoned, I'm not actually worried that I'm about to be lynched.

And yeah, anyone who gets voted 5 times in 5 posts gets concerned,

I don't see a good reason to be concerned over a bandwagon that started over RVS that put you only at L-3. Since we're starting to move away from RVS, I highly doubt you'll be quick lynched anytime soon.

And no, I'm not *concerned* that I'll be lynched, as such. I figured that I should comment on the fact that I'm the closest to dying as of yet.

Did we ever say that you were concerned about being lynched? The best I could find was that you were concerned over a RVS bandwagon. Also, I'm not sure how the "Let's wagon someone else!" comment was related to commenting on you being the closest to being lynched. I think you're overreacting on the situation.

The wagon was growing too quickly for my liking. And yes, you did say that I was concerned about being lynched, in this quote.

Oh, hey, I don't feel like shouting. Let's wagon someone else. I have a feeling this MPR dude is town.

Why is he concerned about a bandwagon that isn't even based on him being scummy? It's not like we're planning on lynching him yet.

It's not even close to an overreaction, either. It translates to "Eh, I'm getting voted, but it's RVS so it doesn't really matter. Anyways, I always like having other people getting lynched over me, because I'm always confirmed FMPOV as whatever alignment I am, and lynching people of my alignment brings me further from winning!"

...that last sentence was awkward.


Korts, I was kidding about vigging Reck, it's a continuation of the signup thread. I don't think we should lynch him, though- we lose a lynch and a confirmed innocent, all for a bit of redirection. Redirection can screw us over regardless of a vanilizer, anyway.

Elli, I've been pretty good, aside from losing a game earlier because my scumteam didn't submit a kill. (Nightless game, we were both lazy, we thought we had won as the lynch caused us to have an equal number of scum and town. Still.)



MPR's Meta Tip of the Day: If I'm posting, I'm town. If I'm not posting, I'm either town or scum.

[MehPlusRawr]

The second quote was attempting to rephrase the term "concerned," because though it's obviously a matter of interest to me that I'm being wagoned, I'm not actually worried that I'm about to be lynched.


The wagon was growing too quickly for my liking. And yes, you did say that I was concerned about being lynched, in this quote.

This, by the way, is not a contradiction. Again, a rephrasement is in order- I'm not worried that I'll be lynched from scumminess right now, but I'm slightly nervous that a whole bunch of people voted me quickly. Quicklynches are bad. Like quicksilver. I think that gives you cancer.

[MehPlusRawr]

*points SSBF toward the Redirector role*

[MehPlusRawr]

As for killing Reck, it might save on a lot of headaches, but I don't think it would benefit the town much strategically. Redirector can still cause a lot of hell even without vanillaizing people and the cost is too high.

Hey, I found a sheep.

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Hey, I found a sheep.

Do you consider me scummy, MPR?

Not particularly. It's a perfectly valid thought that you might have just had the same idea as me, but voiced it later. I just thought it would be of note.

Huh. I'm playing carefully. I need to accuse people of being scum randomly more.

[MehPlusRawr]

I PROMISE WHATEVER IT WAS SO WHAT WAS I PROMISING AGAIN?

ALSO WAY TO MAKE ME START CAPSINATING AGAIN.

[MehPlusRawr]

OH I MISSED THAT. I PROMISE I'M TOWN. CROSS MY HEART, HOPE TO DIE, JAM A DAGGER IN MY THIGH, EAT A HORSE MANURE PIE.

[MehPlusRawr]

I DON'T EVEN KNOW THIS IS SO CONFUSING. AND FINE YOU CAN REVISE MY META TIP TO SAY "NOT TOWN," I PLAY AN SK LIKE TOWN ANYWAYS.

[MehPlusRawr]

Hey, I found a sheep.

Do you consider me scummy, MPR?

Not particularly. It's a perfectly valid thought that you might have just had the same idea as me, but voiced it later. I just thought it would be of note.

Huh. I'm playing carefully. I need to accuse people of being scum randomly more.

Then who IS scummy?

This is a problem. I can't find anyone scummy except from accusations that aren't even based off gut. I'd like to lynch SSBF, but I'm pushing that to the back of my mind, because every single game I play in, I want to lynch him. Heck, if he was confirmed town, I'd still want to lynch him. Ask me again in a few pages.

[MehPlusRawr]

My wagon isn't exactly analyz-able. Still, I don't like Nachomamma all that much- he popped up, but really hasn't done anything, though we're out of RVS by now.

[MehPlusRawr]

DH is one of those people that are pretty difficult for me to read.

Also, heh, I've posted more in 140 posts than I did in a 2000 post game as scum.

However, I did just ISO DH, and so far, he's been pretty passive. Though he weakly posts twice about my wagon, he soon drops it and defends me as town- I notice, however, that most of my wagon had dropped by this point. There's a possibility that DH was scum trying to push a lynch on me (before he realized that my wagon was RVS/stupid), then attempted to make it look like he hadn't pushed a wagon on somebody who wasn't scummy.

I'm usually way too paranoid about stuff like this, though. Just pointing that out.

Also, "Attempted to make it look like he hadn't?" Seriously, me? *slaps myself around a bit with a large trout*

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Also, heh, I've posted more in 140 posts than I did in a 2000 post game as scum.

For the sake of accuracy, apparently this is wrong. Somebody said I had 13 posts- I had 31. *shrugs and goes back to eating breakfast*

[MehPlusRawr]

You're not in this game.

[MehPlusRawr]

I don't like the way Seraphim keeps changing his votes. Are you going to follow up *any* of them?

[MehPlusRawr]

@MehPlusRawr:

Who's scum? Your wagon's gone, so you can't use "I WAS BUSY DEFENDING MYSELF" as an excuse for not producing reads. Your vote's still on SpyreX, and you haven't really commented on people's alignments. So do so.

My usual "gut glance over the playerlist" tells me that Nacho's scum(miest). Attempting to explain why is harder. Anyways. Nacho only has 4 posts, all of which are completely useless.

SSBF and DH are both really hard to read, and they're usually pretty good vigshots.

Didn't know I still had my RVS vote. Whoops.

Unvote, vote: Nacho

[MehPlusRawr]

Yay. I am not dead.
Let's get scum DH dead.
He is trying so hard to make people look scummy. Clasic scum.

Hurrr.



I was voting Nacho over Vezo because Nacho was the first name that stood out when I read over the playerlist, as stated before. I don't mind a vezo wagon either.

[MehPlusRawr]

You know, I don't mind this Vezo wagon at all. He's been contributing nothing whatsoever and doesn't even seem to want to play.

I'm not gonna vote him, yet, though, because then he'd be at L-1, and Socrates doesn't want any hamz0rz.

[MehPlusRawr]

It appears that he's busy trying to do something pro-town, and hammering will interrupt it.

[MehPlusRawr]

Vote: Vezo

Hey, Vezo, claim.

[MehPlusRawr]

DH is still scum.
I am a VT so you can go ahead and lynch me.

Do you even care about the game?

[MehPlusRawr]

Why don't you try defending yourself? Maybe you could say why DH is scummy, rather than calling him scum repeatedly for no reason?

[MehPlusRawr]

That being said...his play doesn't look like he's being coached. So he's either ignoring the scum quicktopic or he's town and actually believes what he's saying. Either way, I don't like his play at all.

Sigh. This is far too true. Yes, it's WIFOM, but nobody would think of using this strategy so it's good enough for me. I would like the nacho wagon to go further, and I'm up for voting him at any time.

Unvote, Vote: DH

I'm gonna be honest and say that all my reasons for voting DH have already been pointed out, I can parrot them if anyone cares.

[MehPlusRawr]

TOWN:
MPR

...first time this year.

[MehPlusRawr]

I was hoping that we could leave SSBF to the vig, but I'm okay with his lynch as well.

Vote: SSBF

L-1, amirite? Claim.

[MehPlusRawr]

You know, we're not going to get anybody else to claim after this. Too much for D1. If Sera claims a PR, we're gonna have to lynch Vezo.

Vote: Seraphim

Mostly gut at this point.

[MehPlusRawr]

I'm missing my fuzzy obvtown feeling from SpyreX this game. That can't be good.

[MehPlusRawr]

The problem is that Sera is a much nicer lynch than Vezo.

[MehPlusRawr]

Fakeclaims in an open? I wish.

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i.e., I wish that scum would attempt to claim a town role and get CCed.

[MehPlusRawr]

I'm down for a Spyre lynch- the games I've played with him as town, he was much more helpful. In this game, he seems more lurky and badlogicy.

For some reason, Korts gives me a bit of a scummy vibe.

[MehPlusRawr]

I

know

Spyre is scum. Well, not really, but I'm 99% sure of it.

Vote: SpyreX

[MehPlusRawr]

I wouldn't trust MPR with a cactus, what makes you think I trust him with my reads?

I only stole a cactus and broke a window with it twice. Stop judging me.

[MehPlusRawr]

Korts, L-1, claim.

If he's scum, he'll claim gunsmith to get a CC. Let's *not* get a CC if he claims that, unless everybody talks and agrees on letting a possible CCer claim.

[MehPlusRawr]

...if you're gonna call me scum, please state a reason for doing so, so I can rebut that.

[MehPlusRawr]

Scum On supersmash {Fate, vezok, Soc, Meh}
Scum on vezok {Spy, Meh, Demon}

It *looks* like you are...

[MehPlusRawr]

Oh. You mean "one of the following people is scum?"

[MehPlusRawr]

Weird. The two people I want to lynch particularly both vote me, someone I didn't even know was in the game with a pitiful ISO also bandwagons (ignoring the fact that the person stating the case said he was scum as well), and Fate is voting me for no apparent reason.

Yeah, that's pretty much how I play, RC. At the beginning of the game, apparently most people thought I was town after the wagon thing, but oddly enough, people are wagoning me now for that. I think that Vezo is town because scum really would care more about being lynched- a third of one team is much worse for that team to lose as opposed to an eleventh of a team.

I like the avatar more than the bloody eye-scarring previous abomination. Eh.

[MehPlusRawr]

It's hard to fake content as town, tbh.

[MehPlusRawr]

I don't get lynched most games. =p.

[MehPlusRawr]

Could you guys provide some bloody reasons for voting me? When I get lynched, I'd at least like to know more than "Hey, a scummy guy at L-1 called YOU scummy as well! Let's lynch him!"

[MehPlusRawr]

town read

-noun
1. A read that's town.
2. Something that RC fails to grasp.

[MehPlusRawr]

Because Spy is scum. Why shouldn't I vote for him?

[MehPlusRawr]

RedCoyote makes some very very very good points. I think Korts lack of care of the game caused him to contradict himself a few times due to a lack of focus, so I'm going to let that point go for now. Doing a quick readthrough of MPR's ISO, he really hasn't posted ANY content whatsoever and has been jumping on every bandwagon (with the exception of the Korts bandwagon). RC, you're talking a lot about his defense of Vezok, yet the only indication of a defense is Seraphim's vote change.

Regardless, he's been on every major wagon this whole entire game with the exception of the Korts wagon (and probably because he didn't want to risk quicklynching for whatever reason). He started voting Spyre for his RVS vote, then Nacho when the wagon was on MPR, then Vezo, then me, then SSBF....does this all sound familiar? SPEAKING of the Korts wagon, he seems dead set on speculating that Korts would claim gunsmith if he's scum:

Korts, L-1, claim.

If he's scum, he'll claim gunsmith to get a CC. Let's *not* get a CC if he claims that, unless everybody talks and agrees on letting a possible CCer claim.

I don't really like it.

After RC's big wall of a post, MPR had a LOT of material to defend....and chose to back down and just call Spyre scum. This was two days ago, however.

I have a bad feeling that after being on nearly every bandwagon (with that one exception) that he's not voting for the new one: Jack. Maybe he doesn't want to bus?

I think Jack's in the same boat as Nacho and Vezok here though. These fucking mafia players that never say anything and vote for no reasons whatsoever, this is why the game is stagnant most of the time. Anyway, I'm keeping MPR's reluctance to defend himself and reluctance to vote Jack in mind.

I do think, however, that Vezok's still being Vezok in this case, and it IS hard to tell with Jack. I'm waiting for more reads, but they need to post more. If MPR gets lynched and flips scum, I will be looking at Nacho (MPR's vote of choice when the wagon was on him) and Jack more...moreso Jack than Nacho.

Unvote, Vote: MehPlusRawr

There's NOTHING TO DEFEND MYSELF AGAINST. All his suspicions are covered by my normal play and town read on Vezo.

[MehPlusRawr]

and ftr I was willing to wagon Korts, if you read my ISO, you'd notice that.

[MehPlusRawr]

Fighting my lynch? This is how I play. Read my meta. I'm at a loss to why my normal playing that normally doesn't get me lynched is getting me lynched here, and I don't really have any defense against it because the tells used against me are completely invalid.

[MehPlusRawr]

Why can't we lynch the actual scum? Seriously, guys?

[MehPlusRawr]

Yup.

[MehPlusRawr]

Read his bloody ISO!

[MehPlusRawr]

Next time I play a game with you guys, I'm making an alt called Cassandra.

VT.

[MehPlusRawr]

You guys had BETTER lynch Spy tomorrow.

[MehPlusRawr]

Oh. Cool. I'm not dead.

[MehPlusRawr]

Guys, STOP resigning to lynch somebody if you think they're town. That's the lazy attitude that's going to get us killed.

WE ARE LYNCHING SPYREX TODAY.

READ HIS TOWN META. READ HIS SCUM META. READ HIS ISO.

YOU CANNOT HONESTLY TELL ME THAT YOU THINK HE'S TOWN AFTER THAT.