InflatablePie wrote:Everyone on my wagon should restate their reasons for voting me, so I can clear some things up. Please?
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Getting suspicious of Jack for what I consider purely playstyle. It's one of those "ooh look he's not contributing to discussion" suspicions even though heis.He's just being concise about it. And proposing a policy lynch, that's blatantly scummy. Jack hasn't done anything to deserve a policy lynch yet - his playstyle may be slightly anti-town but it's not worth lynching someone over.
Using meta to put fugitive on his scumlist. Doesn't sit right.
Somewhat of a shoddy case on TheLonging. A lot of those things you pointed out are big stretches - the RVS talk , the OMGUS FoS-ing (which it wasn't really), the bandwagoning (not a scumtell in and of itself). FTR I think Longing is scummy too but this case seemed thrown together.
Makes a big fuss over DH's mislynch talk, says that he it's not okay to say "no big deal" about mislynching townies D1. But weren't you the one who proposed a policy lynch of Jack? Seems like by the very definition of policy lynching you don't take into account the players' scumminess. This is contradictory - you risk Jack flipping town if you want a policy lynch.-
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- Like I said, Fugi is not high up on my scumlist, I just have leaning townreads on many of the players and only a few scumreads. I've noted that I'm just keeping an eye on him for now.
- The main reasons why I think TL is scummy is for the overreacting, blatant bandwagoning (in this case is scummy, although I concede it can be a nulltell) and that weird godfather comment. Some of my lesser reasons might seem like a bit of a stretch, but my case makes sense to me.
- I suppose policy lynch was a little harsh or bad choice of words. Either way, I don't think Jack is town right now, so I don't think I am taking this "risk of Jack flipping town". There's a bit of a difference in my eyes for wanting to lynch a player that's being blatantly anti-town and someone outright saying it's okay to lynch townies on D1.If you don't know how to lie, then how do you know when you're being lied to?
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Stop messing up my town read on youFugitive wrote:Oh, and DH is probably town so stop wasting time and energy on him.Show0-1 at MS.net (0-0 offsite)Town:
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Work tomorrow from 8-12, then 4:30-10. If anyone has something for me, it has to wait till that gap in the middle or after 10 EST. Sorry
(Will put together my suspicions on Pie when I can, but he's pretty much answered everything I've come up with, either with scummy or meh results.)-
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I find this post suspicious, mostly because I think there's no way that anybody can find DH scummier than TL. Let's look at r2r's case on DH:ready2rock wrote:Right now, I think that one of {TL, pie, DH} is scum. Right now I'm leaning towards DH, but I'm not sure.r2r wrote:DH: I think he's neutral. I agree with esuriospiritus that he seems to be trying a little too hard to scumhunt, but I don't know how sure of a scumtell that is right now. it is day 1 after all.
That's not really a case.r2r, two posts later wrote:MostlyDH for reasons I said before. I feel like most of your wagoning is for pressure, which is good (of course I could be wrong).
Yes, that's a great reason to vote DH, even though TL is much scummier.He also says his scummiest read is Pie when (from the looks of it), all he did was voice his suspicion of Jack (something to note if DH flips scum, maybe they planned the whole RVS thing in the QT?).
I like my case on DH, so I'll go ahead and VOTE: DemonHybrid.
I'm still going toUnvote: ready2rock, though. Why?
Because I want toVote: TheLonging. I'm not going to repeat all of the reasons that other people have already mentioned, but I'll go over the things that tip the scales for me. First off there's the "scum for the wrong reasons" post I mentioned before. Just because the town takes a crappy road to reach a conclusion doesn't inherently make the conclusion wrong. Second, I think people have let TL off the hook for his "DH is the Godfather" remark. It's unnecessary speculation on roles AND an act of subtle powerrole direction.
Combined with the overdefensiveness and the rambling about meta when it's completely unwarranted, and I have enough to feel comfortable voting for TL. The whole "Hey I must be bussingamirite?" thing feels wrong, too; admittedly I am having difficulty articulating why.MY SCUMBUDDY-
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@376: Oooookay, so I wasn'treallymissing anything on the case on IP. Nope, still think TL is scummier.
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I'm posting on no sleep. ^5
Haschel, what do you mean TL's godfather comment is "an act of subtle powerrole direction"? I don't understand this part, although note that I do appreciate your support on the TL wagon.If you don't know how to lie, then how do you know when you're being lied to?
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I plead the fifth until the votals come up.Show0-1 at MS.net (0-0 offsite)Town:
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After waking up and rereading what I wrote, I can't remember what I meant. I think I was trying to say that TL was poisoning the well should an investigator get an innocent result on DH, but I don't know why I phrased it that way.InflatablePie wrote:I'm posting on no sleep. ^5
Haschel, what do you mean TL's godfather comment is "an act of subtle powerrole direction"? I don't understand this part, although note that I do appreciate your support on the TL wagon.-
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Day 1 Vote Totals
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[4] InflatablePie:Jack, Fugitive, DemonHybrid, Friend [L-3]
[3] TheLonging:InflatablePie, esuriospiritus, Haschel Cedricson [L-4]
[2] Jack:Twomz, Kov [L-5]
[2] DemonHybrid:TheLonging, ready2rock [L-5]
[0/4] No Lynch:None
[0/4] Deadline Extension:None
Not Voting:ortiz1193
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Because I wanted to see votals before starting my case, which is the fact that DH found me more scummy yet voted for Pie. That's what I got from him.
ANYWAYS
Haschel Cedricson wrote:Because I want toVote: TheLonging. I'm not going to repeat all of the reasons that other people have already mentionedTrumpetah~~, but I'll go over the things that tip the scales for me. First off there's the "scum for the wrong reasons" post I mentioned beforeI'm getting voted for reasons that are, by large, nulltells.. Just because the town takes a crappy road to reach a conclusion doesn't inherently make the conclusion wrongSee last point.. Second, I think people have let TL off the hook for his "DH is the Godfather" remark. It's unnecessary speculation on roles AND an act of subtle powerrole directionI am awesome like this. Right? I didn't intend to setup speculate btw. If you assume I did so on purpose, please refer to the dictionary and try to find the definition for "wishful thinking".
Combined with the overdefensiveness and the rambling about meta when it's completely unwarrantedMeta is a stepping stone for a case, not the WHOLE case, also overdefensiveness/recklessness =/= scumtell btw, and I have enough to feel comfortable voting for TL. The whole "Hey I must be bussingamirite?" thing feels wrong, too; admittedly I am having difficulty articulating whyMY SCUMBUDDYHere's a hint: I am sarcastic. A lot. This kind of ties into my whole point the last bold thing I used. Also it's to point out how fucking ridiculous the connection between me and IP is. He practically STARTED the wagon on me, if you want hypothetical situations: If he was scum and if I was scum, and he started a BW on me, and saw it taking off, wouldn't he just you know, unvote? Same pretty much applies when I am town (aka now) and he is scum. The only thing that makes sense here barring unusual play from Pie is that I am town and he is town or he is town and I am scum.Show0-1 at MS.net (0-0 offsite)Town:
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Thestatusquo - and that, ladies and gentlemen, was trolling.
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Nevermind I pretty much wrote a consciousness reply to that quote. Those two points are separateShow0-1 at MS.net (0-0 offsite)Town:
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Thestatusquo - and that, ladies and gentlemen, was trolling.
cyberbob - it doesn't count if you're insecure enough about it to have to openly pat yourself on the back
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