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no, I'm not referencing Kyle's game. I'm referencing the fact that this is a RANDOM game, with roles RANDOMLY assigned. It is possible for there to be a doc, but I don't believe that one can say that the existence of a doctor is proven by the presence of a nurse. Without additional info from the mod (which he has previously not given) we MUST assume that the presence of a certain role does not force the presence of another. Just like we can't assume there is, in fact, another mason. Or if an arsonist flipped, we couldn't assume the presence of a firefighter.
EDIT: Zajnet's post is the TL;DR version.Current Avatar: Kronk. Duh.-
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I'm aware of that. And why would that put him off? I don't see why giving someone a useless role is such a terrible thing in a game of this nature.
But this kind of speculation really gets us nowhere at this point, and we'll have agree to disagree for now. Besides, Zajnet's penchant for posting one-liners and no content is really getting on my nerves; if you're on to read this whole thing, and comment on it, can't you say something more than fluff? Tell us what you think, instead of just sheeping and wagon-hopping. I promise, having opinions is OK. Tell us some of yours, without us having to force them out of you.Current Avatar: Kronk. Duh.-
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I have a gut feeling on totallynotmafia, and I can't wait for him to get back from V/LA. I think AGar has been somewhat scummy, but IDK. quadz, I think that you're newbie town, and gandalf I can't get a read on. Millar I can never get a read on. Mitsuru I think is scum, and here's why:quadz08 wrote:I'm aware of that. And why would that put him off? I don't see why giving someone a useless role is such a terrible thing in a game of this nature.
But this kind of speculation really gets us nowhere at this point, and we'll have agree to disagree for now. Besides, Zajnet's penchant for posting one-liners and no content is really getting on my nerves; if you're on to read this whole thing, and comment on it, can't you say something more than fluff? Tell us what you think, instead of just sheeping and wagon-hopping. I promise, having opinions is OK. Tell us some of yours, without us having to force them out of you.
Mitsuru didn't want to hammer Exe on D1, but he/she did it subtly by putting him at L-1.
Mitsuru has also posted very little content all game.My GTKAS
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QFTgandalf5166 wrote:Oh, and while millar has done many stupid things, his claim was definitely not one of them. Think about what would have happened if he hadn't claimed. Someone(scum) would have said, "Oh, he waited to claim because he was scum making sure that there wasn't another mason" and our stupid selves would have lynched confirmed town.
Vote: Zajnet
He basically contributed nothing day 1. His day 2 play consists of continuously defending Vez:
Zajnet wrote:About the Vezok issue, I have reason to believe that he is actually VT. A second jester is technically possible, but vezok always plays like this xD.Zajnet wrote:Meta reasons make me see vezok as town in this one.Zajnet wrote:I've been in a couple games with vezok on another site, one where we were both scum, and one where we were both town. He is hilariously obvscum as scum.
He then puts Quadz at L-1 in post 204, then after AGar and Vez both vote for him, he suddenly changes his tune:Zajnet wrote:I'm not saying that he's obvtown, I'm just saying that I, personally, see him as town in this game. I could be wrong.
It seems to me that Zajnet was calling Vez town just so that it would look good for him when vez flipped, but then when suspicion started to build on himself he was forced to actually join the vez wagon.Zajnet wrote:UNVOTE: quadz
I wasn't worried about scum (or anyone else for that matter) quickhammering, and I wanted to garner reactions, specifically from vezok. I don't believe quadz is scum, but if y'all want to lynch him because of his claim, be my guest. I have reason to believe that vezok really is vanilla, but the way he's been acting is really scummy, so he could be a goon. I'll support his lynch, simply because he's either VT or scum, and in that case, he's the least damaging mislynch we could make, if its a mislynch.
VOTE: vezok
Zaj also found AGar's claim suspicious (which I think is fair given it's a good scum claim) and goes on to say:
But then after Mitsuro says that scum will try to influence AGar's lynch Zajnet immediately backs down and changes his mind:Zajnet wrote:I think we should lynch AGar now. Best case, he's scum. Worst case, we eliminate something that will get in the way in a LyLo situation.
...but he still leaves the opportunity open to lynch AGar later.Zajnet wrote:
Actually, the more I think about it, we shouldn't lynch you. If we ever get close to deadline with no good lynch target and we're not in LyLo, we'll lynch you then. I am worried that come lylo, we won't know if you're town or lying scum, and we have no way to confirm it without risking one of us.AGar wrote:If the town agrees to lynch me, I'm not going to fight it. I realize that I am a liability no matter what. I tried to downplay some of that liability by the claim. However, I would like to ask that my lynch be pushed back as far as possible and the town takes plenty of time to look at other players, so that you have something to go off of on D3. We made out well with lynching Exe D1, but the speed of the lynch did us no favors for the following days. We need information. A quicklynch on me as well is only going to hurt the town and aid the mafia in going by unnoticed. Policy lynching me is also going to result in no reliable vote data from today. At least take every other step possible to set up for successful days following.
Mitsuru's post is +townie points.
@gandalf: Army Vet is another name for PGO. Paranoid = PTSD and Gun Owner = Vet.
Combined with today's vote-hopping, I'm pretty certain Zajnet is scum.-
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My count:
Zaj(3): Mitsuru, TNM, gandalf
quadz(1): AGar
AGar(1): quadz
Not Voting(2): millar, Zaj
I just went through to check, and had to change a couple of things, so I may be wrong, here.
IMPORTANT NOTE: Zaj appears to be at L-1. I am not in favor of a hammer yet, in case anyone was planning on hammering now.Current Avatar: Kronk. Duh.-
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No. There doesn't.gandalf5166 wrote:There was a nurse. There has to be a doctor. And the job of a doctor is to guess who the mafia will attack.
The roles are random, which I'm assuming as meaning that MafiaSSK rolled alignments via random.org, and then went to the page linked, gave each role a number and rolled roles via random.org again.
We had a jester hammer a mafia super-saint. This game is about as bastard as it gets.
Zajnet is town-read, imo.
quadz is better lynch.
Gandalf is jumping up the scum-reads very quickly with his insistence that there has to be a doctor.Ski mask? Check! Sawed off? Check! Guilty conscience, fear of death? Check! Check! Check!
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His persistence to discuss the setup rather than the game at hand. It's promoting discussion that is not scumhunting, rather just fluff that can't be analyzed and gives us no leads. Serves two purposes for scum: 1) Town does not scumhunt and is scrambling as deadline approaches. 2) Scum does not have to commit to reads in theory discussions.quadz08 wrote:What's scummy about that, AGar?Ski mask? Check! Sawed off? Check! Guilty conscience, fear of death? Check! Check! Check!
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Okay, I'll shut up about the doctor. I'm not sure what else to talk about, though. We've already decided who to lynch. What are we going to talk about? Who to lynch tomorrow? we should talk about that TOMORROW. I'm really not a fan of prolonging days past their due. Unless I'm mafia. In that case, I'm glad to let the day drag on for as long as possible, especially if there's suspicion on me, but I'm not the target for the day's lynch yet. It leaves time for you to worm your way out of suspicions without actually having to defend yourself, since town starts to get lethargic, and only pay attention to the game in the present tense. Generally, some townie will say something stupid about how long the game is, or worse, get frustrated and quickhammer, and YAY!!!! Perfect mislynch material.-
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First,nobody hammer me without first letting me know that you intend to and giving me a chance to respond. If you hammer me, you will suffer the full wrath of the town tomorrow.
VOTE: gandalf5166
That's my defense.
Ok, not really, but I was really tempted to just post that.
Gandalf has been engaging in useless (and wrong) setup speculation to avoid having to do any scumhunting, has been lurking (I know, pot calling the kettle black blah blah blah), is very excited about getting what he sees as an easy mislynch out of me, and I'm 99% sure that the other scum is TNM.
He an TNM see an easy mislynch on me because I've been lurking, etc. The part of TNM's case against me regarding Vez is because I was torn between what I knew was his town and scum meta, and the comment (from AGar?) about how offsite metas don't usually translate. At the time, I found quadz scummy as well, but now I don't.My GTKAS
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