Mini #1022- PokeUPick(Game Over)

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/confirm

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Mmm...

Hello, everyone. Name claim time?

Also, I'd like to discuss the merits of immediately claiming a role that might mislead scans, instead of RVSing.

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Nameclaim will help discussion, at least. And it might help win with game flavor.

Answer my question.

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Claim: Scyther
I was being rushed.

Vage hint: Most abilities won't affect me as they should.

I don't think roles have much to do with names.

Xine shouldn't have claimed, but withholded his/her claim and if unsure of him/herself, wait until a likely scum survives a Day.

But whatever, then..

I can't post b/c you people are spamming!!!!!

vote Nicol

I don't like "Where's the rest of the Town" post. Seems like it's pretending to be useful and look like one of the bunch.

I also don't like your bandwagon to the list idea.

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Meh. Too much claiming.

@Nicol: why do you believe my reasons for voting you were bad?

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idea bandwagon.

So why did you wait to claim?

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you can't look at a player's name to determine his alliance, hopefully.

Besides, many prank-loving Gengars frolick around the Pokemon world.

Nicol's reason for lateclaiming is weak.

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Oh, okay. I didn't play all the way through gold, so I guess I wouldn't know. Plus a wiki told me that he didn't come in until Ruby. Problem was, the wiki ignored any games before Ruby and Emerald. >.<

What kind of pokemon wiki do you use????

bulbapedia is the best, imo.

xite is basically confirmed town for claiming a confirmable PR.

Can we focus our attention away from the pokemon fanboy orgy here for a second? At least random vote.

I'd bet that I know the most about the pokemon games from gen 3 to 4 than all ofyou, but that's beside the point. Knowledge about pokemon here does little more than verify claims and encourage off-topic convos.

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Although, now that I think about it, this won't really do much good since it only has to do with setup spec. and gaming the mod... Why do I not think of these things BEFORE I post???
Nicol, is what is your reasoning for asking?

It was already established that he wants to appear useful.

@gandalf: is the reason I got no flavor because I was a quick sub-in?

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Oh wow. I'm going to apologize for the seriousness. The late night does weird things to me..

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Cases should be posted.

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Cases should be posted.

lol. Cases should be posted if you have finished building the case. Why post a small case when you can wait a page or two so you can catch them doing the same thing again adn again and thus have a much more compelling case.

If you find something scummy, you point it out. Not doing so helps who?

I suspect Espeonage is faking having a case.

unvote; vote Espeonage

If you don't have a case, say so. Don't pretend.

PREVIEW EDIT: I spy a blatant bandwagon.

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Xine, is your vote for pressure or for scum?

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You guys are stupid. Stop voting esp, and let me read this game.

No u.

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All I'm going to say is that a lot of people were misrepped there, positively and negatively.

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First of all, if the mod allowed somebody to be "Watertype", then two eevee's doesn't phase me.

Secondly, I must repeat myself. If you think a player has been 'misrepped', then point out where. You can't just say that I was wrong, then not say why. If you're going to get your panties in a bunch, then ignore the summary and only pay heed to the bolded words.

Meh...fine. I was not inconsistent in any of my posts. Everyone else can just explain what they want until you use any of your points in an actual case and I care more.

Gandalf case coming

soon

, and not immediately, cause he has to go make one up real quick.

Ok, this is a little unintelligent.

Gandalf is scummy again. I believe he is scum. DIE.
Someone claimed Officer Jenny?
Intresting.

vote gandalf

I know what you're thinking, but what kind of mod gives a person who chooses Officer Jenny a cop role?

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Oops.

I'm suspicious primarily of you and of Espeo right now more on a gut basis than anything, and the two eevee thing makes me think that one of them is lying scum, not sure which. I am refusing to vote until I get another vote count however. I don't see any major scumtells, aside from the possible two eevee thing. And I do think a full nameclaim now will help us, not immediately, but after N1 actions are revealed so we can see how the mod is relating actions to the role names. I do recommend that the claim be made now, for role-based reasons I will not specify. I also am a little suspicious of xite, just due to the oddness of his role with respect to flavor.

Before I subbed in, as the mod was in a rush, I was told I could be ANYTHING.

Wow, total fail on my part. I was actually talking to MBF. I agree with jim that one of the Eevees might be scum, I just know it's not me.

It's just WIFOM that way.

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gandalf case coming soon.

FoS: bv

I want a post from you.

...?

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I think I'd be happy if someone dayvigged Espeonage right now.

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Or...we could just lynch him.

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Eevee is far too popular, clearly.

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btw, my gut says one eevee is scum, not because of their rolenames, but the responses to the "CC"'s

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Not exactly a miller, but close enough. I don't want that coming back to bite me later.

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Also,

FoS

for rolefishing.

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Espeonage is probably not scum. The wagon on him grew too fast.

I hae when people say this.

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Vote count is surprising.


@Mod: V/LA through Friday night, sorry (school)

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LOL.this laptop is frickin stupid.
I thouched the mousepad with kmy hand and it switched words.
That should read.
If I need that person lynched cause I am sure he is scum I will put more analysis.

FoS

Welcome drmy... Can i call you shotty?

xD

Vote: Xite

for old times sake, jk

unvote

Psychic Powers told me you'd be here.

Long version: Throughout this game, Gandalf's been playing very aggressively. He's one of the more frequent posters, but despite this, there's very little content in his posts. In fact, I think it's safe to say there's no scumhunting in any of his play so far.

Newbtown.

Prox is worse though. Softclaiming a scan problem, then not elaborating is a pretty basic scum tactic of claiming Miller.

Well, I've never been miller before. I'm not miller right now, but I don't want to say exactly what my role is.
Your attack is WIFOM and seems disingenuous (I love this new word of mine).

unvote; vote bv

Because seriously, if your best read is on the WIFOM of not believing someone's softclaim, there is an issue.

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More later.

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OK! I'm going to re-read this thread TODAY and get a wallpost in TODAY. I apologize for previous inactivity. School, ya'know?

But I think I can do this.

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How am I not replaced? If I'm still here, I'll keep playing.

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dang it. You lynched shotty. Why does that keep happening?

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Prox: So are you in or out? If it's in, let's have some content; make yourself useful.

In. Gimme a while to get my wits together. It will happen, though.

magikarp doesn't prove Espeonage's alliance in the least. I say we ignore the claim and [only] lynch him if he's scummy.

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I don't like Nicol's claim.

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I don't like Nicol's claim.

Care to explain?

vibes. no time to look further. sorry.

(school)

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Ok...I really need to re-read this thread. I'll do this tonight. And then...I'll participate again.

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Sigh. I missed Day 1. As of page 10 my thoughts:

Switz's case on page 9 is scummy.
Disingenous means not genuous. My read on bv is less existent. I did not OMGUS him.
Espe is scum.

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ok, finished reading thread. It juat makes me want to scream. I'll post mt exact thoughts later. Am on mobile and hate postin on it, but love reading on it.

But forst:

Why would you give magikarp to gandalf? I mean, he isn't exactly mr. innocent child.

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Why did Esp answer my question with a Day 2 event..?

I really need to focus more. Still don't have that desktop I need to analyze, but the things I plan to focus on:

-Switz iso. Period. Something just doesn't sit right with his posts for me
-Shotty wagon. This has happened in all my games including shotty, but gandalf being here should've made things different. The recurrent shotty wagon usually seems to do well to help search out opportunism, but can also mislead the Town.
- each claim: just...wierd.


As for my role, I'd have claimed already if I thought I should.

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Snap decision my A**!

gandalf was summarily your biggest suspect! Ok, on a desktop now, but with little time. I must hurry.

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Hi, I'm a Nexus. I'd care more, but I just realized doing this will basically make scum avoid me- or not, at their own risk.

For/@ Esp:

Ok now I may have been the one that hammered but no more deliberate mislynches.

Now I hammered because with as many power roles as likely the game is both liable to be cracked by night actions and swingy. I would rather lynch someone who is less importnant member to town that a potentially more important member which could swing the game towards scum. Sadly that didn't work out seeing as we lost a cop. Now I would like to hear from gandalf.

Why a deliberate mislynch??? I mean, one really can't trust someone they believe to be town not to use his antitown power?

I roleblocked Espeonage. I suspect that I may have blocked the mafia kill, and that Xite shot vezok. I'll have to look back at Xite's posts first though.

If you are town you sir are an idiot. I actually have a role that can clear myself at night hence why I can do scummy things in the name of town progress. If you are scum it wouldn't matter anyway because you wouldn't have helped me out. Where is bv and did anyone do anything to him night 0.

Thing about this is that you overrated your role.

Ah sorry I thought you were asking about tonight because it is a different reason as last night.

As for last night not sure. Snap decision mostly.

This is not what I expected. I thought you were testing gandalf to see if he'd clear you, as suggested in the above quote I commented as overrated.

Of all people, you sent the magikarp to Gandalf, your biggest suspect to clear yourself. I just don't get it.

I highly doubt there is a scumdoctor.

Why?

I was going to give one to mbf just coz but i changed at the last minute because I had no particular plan.

If you had no plan, why did you change your mind?

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More later.

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I doubt there's a mafia RB and a town one.

So xite lied?

I believe Esp's claim for now, I suppose.

Perhaps Gandalf is a Godfather with a RBer scumbud?

I like a switz lynch, but there has to be an attack first.

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1. It's drmyshotty. I have seen him do some strange things.
2. Not really look at the balance. The fact that this wasn't advertised as bastard means should I prove my role it would also prove innocence.
3. Can't really make a comment on that. I made a choice and ran with it.
4. Stupid role.
5. The fact that I am now under scrutiny and have a purpose for the use of my role now.

Sigh.
1. Whatever. At least you're outright about it.
2. We'll agree to disagree.
3. But why? What did you do? Pick gandalf's name from a hat?
4. So?
5. I don't understand. Are you explaining a question about D/N1 with an example from D2 again?

I just can't put my finger on it. Something isn't right about you.

It's pretty much pseudo-claiming armour. Which is easy for scum to do and explain why they live to endgame.

Regardless, it compliments Lightning Rod from my perspective so I could the mod putting both in. I'm fine with the claim because of that.

Let's kill jimfinn.

Why?

@Gandalf:

@Gandalf: If I successfully send you a magikarp will you accept that I am town? If not why? If that reason is because there is no indication of alignment put yourself in the mods shoes and go back to the first question.

No. It's bullshit, that's why.

Why do you feel this way?

I think he should target someone else, like Jarti or someone that's not under a ton of speculation. Maybe espy should give a list like i did? Then the person can claim it.

But I'm kind of confirmed town >.>

No.

OOh, that last post sounds desperate. Like there's some reason he needs to be kept alive until D2. Also, even if we believe DMSIS's claim, it really seems like it's more likely to be a scum role.

Really?

Yes, but if scum chose NOT to night kill, then it could be useful to scum, by confusing cops and such. And I'm going to claim, simply because it rather invalidates DMSIS's claim. I'm a roleblocker. So paradox would in fact result. Lynch lynch lynch lynch lynch.

Roleblocks don't work that way, sir.

I'm sorry, I figured that DMSIS had answered that question for me. The thing is, DMSIS has these little catch words he uses as scum. Misrep, OMGUS, active lurking, etc. Also, he votehops like a three year old on crack cocaine. If you look at his town games, he mostly just bandwagons and setup speculates. And then there's the line: "Trying to keep suspicion away from himself", which he hasn't used so far this game, but I'm sure it will come soon. In other words, if he's town, you'll be almost certain he's scum. When he's scum, you'll think he's scum, but then you'll decide that he's probably newb town.

And you lynched him anyways?

Trust me, vezo is town.

wtf?

I don't like Nicol's claim.

Care to explain?

I could've claimed to have scanned bv last Night if I wanted.

Xite- you have to admit, he is more confirmed than most people here.

Except he's so weird...

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Gandalf's play is weird, too...

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Is this how everyone else feels, or are there those who believe this string of claims?

Could everyone list which claims they believe, find fishy, or outright don't believe?

Also, I'm not sure everyone's nameclaimed.

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You're going to look at everything else, too right?

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"Okay, so you think that me and NB are on a scumteam? You're funny."
Or...just one if you is scum.

"Are you gonna be more specific than weird? This is the way I play as confirmed town, or are you referring to my play pre-scan?"
Both. You shouldn't start playing like you're confirmed town.

"Where in this post do I say that I think he's town?"
You don't. But I could c/p that into any game including drmyshottyizsik to say that he's town, too.
Just to note, I'm pretty conscious of shotty's play-style as well.

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Is this how everyone else feels, or are there those who believe this string of claims?

Could everyone list which claims they believe, find fishy, or outright don't believe?

Also, I'm not sure everyone's nameclaimed.

I think MBF is the only one who hasn't.

Also, this post has 3 lines.

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Ok then.

Let's do an expiriment, then.

Living Players (10):
jimfinn
NicolBolas
Espeonage
gandalf5166
Prox
bv310
Jarti
Xite91
Switz
mikeburnfire

Living Players who Have Not Claimed(5/10):
jimfinn

NicolBolas
Espeonage
gandalf5166
Prox

bv310
Jarti

Xite91

Switz
mikeburnfire

Half the players ruled out.

Of the 5 remaining, who are scummiest?

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And that's the plan for today. We can let another Night occur and gather from that, then worry about the claimers with this new info.

Almost Each role is confirmable. However, xite's lack of a vig kill means we have a scum roleblocker. Or an unspoken-for town RBer. Or a lie of a wizard-alias-user. Or two of the former.

Esp gives a magikarp to someone WHO IS MOST LIKELY TOWN. We shouldn't discuss who this is obviously. I just hope you use better discretion this time.
Nicol targets someone with an ability, and, if ignorant of what will occur, assumes that it will kill.
Xite targets one of the scummiest persons with her ability- we should be sure that they don't target the same person.

Gandalf's role is not confirmable.

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Are you crazy? What's with the quick bandwagon?

You said yourself that you believe each claim. Therefore, apparently you find someone who hasn't claimed scummy.

And Esp and Gandalf are on the wagon. Do you see how torn I feel?

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Look, Prox. Believe claim =/= believe town.

*facepalm*

Sigh...which claimants, then?
You disagree with Esp's logic about his role?
Or do you think Nicol's scan was by scum?
Or that I'm a scum nexus?
Or do you think xite, who claimed vig [vigs are always town unless not vgs], is SK?
Or do you know that you're actually a RBer with an antitown alliance?

@xite: I can't believe you! You have Esp in all his failitude, and decide that I am more likely to be scum? There isn't even a valid attack on me. Also, answer my question.

Really, I just don't understand you guys. You just keep doin it wrong, and you can't all be scum.

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...what accusation? Hypothetical situations are hypothetical.

Gandalf, I had asked which claims you believed in, found fishy, or outright disliked.

It's obvious that no one is confirmed. I'm asking about opinions.

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...which don't match.

Gandalf, wtf?

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What about my question?

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Why would I block Xite if I were scum? It would be incredibly obvious that I was scum, because there wouldn't be a second kill. Or at least, that would be what I would think, had I not managed to survive this long today. I'm actually incredibly surprised that I didn't get quick-lynched today.

why would the lack of a second kill make you look scummy?

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Why would I block Xite if I were scum? It would be incredibly obvious that I was scum, because there wouldn't be a second kill. Or at least, that would be what I would think, had I not managed to survive this long today. I'm actually incredibly surprised that I didn't get quick-lynched today.

why would the lack of a second kill make you look scummy?

Because Xite is a claimed vig, if her kill suddenly disappeared, the claimed RB would be the first suspect. Also, I have a question for you guys. If I had decided to roleblock Xite, how do you think I was going to keep myself from being lynched? Who would I have claimed to RB? I hadn't received the Magikarp message yet(not that I did, but I'm posting from that perspective), so how was I going to cover my ass?

Her kill

has

disappeared. You're thinking in absolutes.

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I've been investigated and come up innocent on a cop result that could only be insane in an incredibly bastard setup. That's about as confirmed as you can get. He COULD be my scumbuddy, but that does that really look likely to you? Bah. Why am I defending myself. Let's try pressuring someone who might by some astronomical chance actually be scum, guys. What the hell happened to the Prox wagon?

No power. Fed by wagoners. But, good job with the whole "moving attention away" thing.

The thing is, I think nicol will probably be the NK tonight. Granted, scum will be confirming me, but they'll also be stopping him from using his other abilities, which could be very damaging.

We have a claimed vig.

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I still believe that we should lynch someone who hasn't claimed for now, unless we can decide that we don't believe someone's claim.

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I'm not acting like confirmed town, asshat. What makes you think scum nexus is likely?

The alternative to lynching someone who hasn't claimed is lynching someone who has claimed. What's the problem?

[Prox]

But what about the fact that Espeonage's role is confirmable? Or do you think that him being a Magikarp Salesman doesn't make him town?

I'm actually beginning to like the idea.

xite, why aren't you just voting for Espy?

[Prox]

Reasoning.

Also, it'd be a good idea if there were an attack posted.

[Prox]

Why are you rushing the game and trying so hard to end the Day?

[Prox]

That didn't answer my question. WHY?

Why don't you instead feel that it would be better for the town to just start scumhunting now?

[Prox]

Is that really how it is?

Fine, I'll decide who's scum.

[Prox]

Hm...Thief lynch is valid plan.

Gandalf is being strange. He should post a valid attack before pushing for a lynch.

I'll have to wait for my desktop to make my attack.

Xite, just...meh. It's like you've given up on scumhunting totally. Do you seriously that 31 pages of content can't find us a good lynch for the Day?

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Actually, after isoing him, I don't find him scummy.

[Prox]

Could you point it out?

Xite, I'm going to let you use your ability tonight, but expect a strong attack tomorrow.

[Prox]

And...what makes it scummy?

[Prox]

Let's do it. Oh wait...I just realized I had time to hunt scum!

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Seriously, the scummiest players are those who have already claimed.

I'm up for a gandalf lynch. Is an attack necessary?

[Prox]

Don't lynch jim. He's not scummy.

I'm surprised at the opinions about me. Much stronger than I thought, even by those intelligent. At least I'll only die by lynch.

All abilities on me target a random someone else. Emphasis on someone else. Never me.

I still don't see what makes me so scummy.

I had this idea, but when I think aloud too much, I sound stupid/scummy. Let me think on this.

Esp lynch works for me.

[Prox]

Mmm...you're misrepping me. Or just being unintelligent.

I still don't see it. Why I'm scummy, I mean. Probably has something to do with school.

I've never seen a game with a scum nexus before. Wouldn't that punish good town play?

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Jim's iso has nothing scummy in it.

My idea would probably be better after the Night. But it's probably antitown.

Because Esp is scummy.

You aren't going to lynch me for my role, are you?

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Meh. If you hammer me, you hammer me. I guess I claimed wrong. I compared my role to miller. I'll do better next game. Be careful of wagoners.

Jim's ISO doesn't seem to have anything scummy in it. I don't think I've missed anything.

[Prox]

Oh wow.

Nicol, why the vote for switz?

And exactly what makes jim scummy?

[Prox]

I almost don't have the drive to remember/check...

Maybe later.

[Prox]

Oh my gosh. What, is deadline tomorrow?

I'm apparently missing something, but will hammer if I understand, so first:

Top 3 reasons why I should, everyone?

[Prox]

Wait...he didn't use his power, but he's a flavor cop?

I'm not getting lynched tomorrow. I've gained the ability to access a computer daily instead of a mobile device. Now I can get more into this.

I'll bite.

vote jimfinn

[Prox]

Wow. Poor eevee.

So. I think

scum

people were planning to lynch me today?

Why?

[Prox]

I don't like no lynch. We CAN find scum.

We should discuss the massclaim further, but I'm for it.

I think Xite is being RBed. By a member of gandalf's faction.

[Prox]

Xite, you

did

try to vig someone N1, didn't you?

[Prox]

Who?

[Prox]

What made esp seem less scummy to you that gave you doubt in his scumhood?

Why would you push for Esp's lynch today if you were too cautious to NK him during the Night?

If you are town and thought Esp was scum...why didn't you kill him?

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When you are the vig, it IS your decision.

Wow, you must really hate your role.

All these people you declare scum, say you're sure about, and you refuse to act on it...

If you don't have any faith in your cases and reads, why should we?

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Xite, even after a list of people we wanted dead, you still couldn't bring yourself to act?

Why must you waste our power-role so?

And what do you think happened to you N1 that stopped your kill?

[Prox]

Maybe gandalf is a liar?

[Prox]

I would not doubt it, but MyLo is really not the best time to do a LaL policy, there could be good reasons behind what he did.

Are you crazy? Scummy players who lie get lynched!

[Prox]

No. We should lynch scum today. WHAT DOES WAITING DO???

Xite, I think scum RBed you or doc'ed your target. I'm going with RB.

You think it unlikely that scum roleblock?

[Prox]

I really want to vote xite.

[Prox]

That's what I was looking for- the complete contrast between xite's use of his role and his goals in the game.

And we have our lynch for the day.

vote xite

[Prox]

Scum-nexus punishes the Town for good play.

You can always pretend that I'm bussing.

[Prox]

Why do we think I lied? Also, Xite is either very stupid, or lying scum. Not vigging in a situation where tomorrow is MyLo? I call bullshit.

VOTE: Xite

It's a possibility. I explained why. READ PLOX.

No. We should lynch scum today. WHAT DOES WAITING DO???

Xite, I think scum RBed you or doc'ed your target. I'm going with RB.

You think it unlikely that scum roleblock?

Oh, it's not unlikely at all, but for some reason I don't think that's the case unless gandalf IS in fact scum, but I'm not to positive on that one.
By the way, how does that post fit with this one?

That's what I was looking for- the complete contrast between xite's use of his role and his goals in the game.

And we have our lynch for the day.

vote xite

Okay, so prox is probably scum, just sayin.

Xite, you are so full of crap. The entire day yesterday you were yelling about needing more flips and that we didn't have any information. You threatened to kill me if Jim came up town. Jim came up town, so I presumed I would die. But then you claim to forfeit your kill last night because you weren't sure who was scum. And now you're saying that you

would love to see how MBF flips

and that you

feel we should lynch MBF

and that

believe you're[mbf] scum

. Either you are only pretending to think I'm scummy, or you can't actually kill me. Which is it?

So, instead of killing somebody to get information, you want to let the scum kill one more time. WHY. What information could we get from their kill that we couldn't get from yours, with the additional benefit of possibly killing scum?

YES WE NEED MORE FLIPS. But seeing WHO scum nk'd is just as important as those flips. It would give us MORE information to see who scum kills than to just see ohai, a townie died and the vig did it, whatevs. What good does that do for us?
Please, stop asking questions that have been answered and just read. Also, keep in mind this is probably MyLo, which means that mislynching is a bad idea, don't you think you shouldn't put scum in the position to lynch me?

Different possibilities. I'm not going to pretend that I know exactly what happened N1 and 2.

Xite, you don't think a flip, even a town flip, would've helped the Town?

Seriously, do you know how much more info we'd have if Esp was dead now?

[Prox]

So you only want flips if scum are the ones creating them?

[Prox]

Serious WIFOM.

[Prox]

Serious WIFOM.

Yus, but the good kind. Bad WIFOM is more along the lines of "Ohai, claimed cop... wait, why was he allowed to investigate LYNCHLYNCHLYNCH" That's the bad kind that gets you nowhere
The kind I'm using gets you somewhere

Not really.

[Prox]

Come now, Xite, we read your posts yet you don't read ours?

[Prox]

Lynch/Mass Claim

We get no new info from waiting. We must move onto the offensive now.

[Prox]

Is that what he said?

[Prox]

Ok, I'm going to be straight with you guys.

Sorry. I literally can't pay as much attention to the game as you all. Almost all of my time online is spent on my mobile device, and it is so hard to make cases and such without tabbed browsing, copy/paste, and Notepad. I'm literally running on memory whenever I post in this thread. My lack of activity b/c of school was not helpful.

I'm really sorry. I'm planning on taking a hiatus once I finish all my games and just study/research/discuss game theory until I receive a better reliable source of internet.

I really would play so much better if it weren't for this handicap, and I hope you don't think this is really just my playstyle. I've been doing my best, but as I fall more and more behind, I begin to lose motivation.

[Prox]

I'll tell you when I want to be replaced out by pm.

It'd be pretty douchy for me to leave at MYLO, non?

[Prox]

So...Jarti chose Pokedex...and got Vig enabler?

That's...just weird.

Why is the water type the only thing you see you controlling?

/humors jarti

I don't see that RC as believable, either.

[Prox]

/confirm Don't worry people I am now in. I haven't read anythiung yet, 39 pages may take some time but im here non the less. My first question is to the two no lynch voters and it's simple why? A no lynch favours Scum surely.

I think I know you.

My favorite lynch for today would be a Xite lynch, still.

[Prox]

Xite.

Maybe you're a different Snake, but I remember your name from a forum called YF I used to frequent.

[Prox]

That's what I thought.

Oh, well. Back to business. Any reason not to go ahead and vote now?

[Prox]

I have a reason. We still haven't heard what Snake's action last night was.

Also, I'd like to respond to Xite's post when I have time tomorrow. Her actions have been suspect, but he still played the role better than you played it, Prox. The role of bulletproof/nexus/hider/untargetable is a role in which a player benefits if the mafia targets him/her, and to do that best, one would imply that they were a powerful role. Xite just took it one step further and actually claimed it. Still debating on whether or not to believe it. More on this tomorrow.

Also, I don't know what to think about Jarti. My initial reaction was that his role was a lie, but I've never legitimately played with or even heard of a switch before. Even if Xite is telling the truth, that doesn't mean that Jarti's claim is proven false. His assumptions are utter garbage, though, and I have no idea what he would be controlling if he actually was a switch.

I know...I had compared it to miller and certainly didn't want to end up in that situation.

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*looks at lastpost*
mmm...I feel bad about lynching xite. A bad vibe. That means I shouldn't do that.

[Prox]

OMFG.

unvote

keep talking.

[Prox]

I still have a bad feeling about this.

...eh.

vote xite

[Prox]

Maybe I bussed my scumbud? That would make some sort of sense.

I wish I were scum in this game.

[Prox]

You do know I'm a nexus, right?

[Prox]

Clarification: Your shadow ball was likely redirected to scum.

[Prox]

Fair enough I hadn't read that far back I jumped to conclusions when I was told it was a role block and there were no night kills, so Prox who did you redirect at?

I don't choose where they go. They just go.

Mine is a passive ability that doesn't usually get blocked. :S

[Prox]

In fact, the assumption that your shadow ball stopped the Night Kill means that it was not me who submitted it.

That would matter more if we had lynched one scum in this game so far.

[Prox]

I'm already sure that Gandalf and Prox are scum. I have no idea who the third is, but that's because no other townies actually seem to be paying attention. Andy and Esp can't do the work themselves, Snake seems to baffled on how everything works, and Jarti's the only one who seems to be doing it right. I hate his role and think this "Switch" business is crap, but sadly his play has been the most townie.

Vote: Gandalf

Sigh. I hate being in this position but I completely understand.

Again, I don't choose who I redirect my stuffs to.

[Prox]

(I don't even get informed)

[Prox]

I have leaning towards voting gandalf.

[Prox]

I'm still undecided. OK prox, what would be the worst lynch other than yourself right now? Same to Gandalf

Isn't that...counterproductive? Or is it different at high stakes to decide who you think is most town?

[Prox]

Yawn.

I softclaimed miller for reasons just like this.

If I hadn't already claimed, things would be a lot more precarious for me when the NK was stopped after someone targetted me for a Roleblock.

If a cop had targetted me instead, he would have likely decided that I was scum.

I could have claimed nexus after the event, but that wouldn't have been as effective, and I probably would have been lynched.

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I do NOT think my claim was terribly bad play at all.

[Prox]

Sure I'll vote gandalf.

Should I do it now?

[Prox]

Hm. Where did gandalf get that info?

Oh, well.

vote gandalf

And now I've had my revenge[though, for the record, my vendetta has had no conscious effect on my play].

[Prox]

Mod should do a votecount at least...

@MOD hello?

[Prox]

Ok, now I'm a little worried. Please don't tell me what I hope didn't happen happened.

[Prox]

:S This is bad.

[Prox]

Let's not WIFOM.

[Prox]

Yawn.

I softclaimed miller for reasons just like this.

If I hadn't already claimed, things would be a lot more precarious for me when the NK was stopped after someone targetted me for a Roleblock.

If a cop had targetted me instead, he would have likely decided that I was scum.

I could have claimed nexus after the event, but that wouldn't have been as effective, and I probably would have been lynched.

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I do NOT think my claim was terribly bad play at all.

And this post mostly makes me think this where we should be looking, the soft claim Miller being the obvious hole in the plan.

What?