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ortiz1193 Goon
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I don't know how to explain it, neither of them is scummy by themselves, but when you link them together I think could be scum together. I don't see either of them as top targets - I think if one of them is scum, the other is scum.
Top Targets are imo Pie, Twomz, and me/esurio from everyone else's pov. No one explained any of their votes except me and Pie so I'm not sure on Kov or HC.-
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TheLonging Mafia Scum
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Whoever suspected Fugitive needs to be dragged to a noose btwShow0-1 at MS.net (0-0 offsite)Town:
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Haschel Cedricson Mr. Know It All
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That's only if you believe TL's claim, which I don't. ortiz and esurio have been townier than TL.pie wrote:With a doc dead and a claimed tracker, though, I'm inclined to believe that one of the neighbors is scum. It'd be too townsided for all three neighbors to be town, even with the paranoia factor, IMO.
I know this wasn't addressed towards me, but TL already answered and I'm also voting for Kov, so I'll answer anyway. Kov was incredibly scummy yesterday. His replacement is going to come in, we will all ask him "Why was your predecessor scummy?", the replacement will say "I don't get it either, but I'm not scum" and then we'll be back at square 1. If that doesn't happen, then we lynch the replacement for what Kov did and then basically wind up making a player read a 40+ page game for little personal reward.@TL: Why are you voting Kov? He's getting replaced.
I want everybody to reread Kov, especially in light of DH being town. I think there's enough there to be comfortable with a lynch.-
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TheLonging Mafia Scum
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hey if me being lynched is what it takes for you to believe me then go aheadShow0-1 at MS.net (0-0 offsite)Town:
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Thestatusquo - and that, ladies and gentlemen, was trolling.
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Jack Jack of All Trades
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Yet now once DH has flipped town, the chances of there being a scum neighbor drops drastically, eh?ortiz1193 wrote:Its best to lynch one of the neighbors today isn't it? When DH flips scum it should clear me/esurio.
Call it nitpicking/tunneling, but the bolded seems like a slip. Like he knows there's one scum neighbor. A stretch, yes, but he says "oneortiz1193 wrote:I asked earlier if it was possible for there to be 2 neighbor scum and got no response,so I'm assuming there's 1.It seems unorthodox for there to be 2 doesn't it? I will repeat that I've never played with neighbors before and the wiki page I read didn't give too much detail. So yes I am assuming there is one scum neighbor max. I'm sure you'll tell me that's a scumtell.max" later in the post. Just something that caught my eye.
And he just forgets this and goes along with voting for DH and now me. There's also the fact that oritz was defending me a lot D1 (I noticed this) and that's been bugging me more than anything. And now he's trying to get me lynched? Then he'll say "oh shit, looks like I was right D1" when I flip town.I love how everyone says "Twomz is scummy" and keeps their vote on someone else. I think ~4 people have said that. Completely reinforces that Twomz is scum in my mind. Similar to "FoS: Scumbuddy, Vote: Townie"
Not the strongest "case" ever, but I just woke up and skimmed through real quick. Maybe I can find something more concrete later. A lot of these points make sense in MY mind; it doesn't help that esurio is obviously town in my eyes and I still think there's one scum neighbor.
@oritz: Thoughts on HC and esurio? Curious.
@Friend: Fugi also softclaimed a PR, if you didn't notice his post back there. I thought he was a VT (mentioned this) and was hoping scum would think the same, but I guess not. Nightkills are WIFOM, too. But thanks for the vote.
@Mod: Try messaging players/mods you've played with before if you can't find any replacements?If you don't know how to lie, then how do you know when you're being lied to?
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Twomz Cliqued On
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I'd think that '~4' people who said they were suspicious of me but kept votes on others would imply that they were all in a mafia group with me... which would mean a 5 person mafia in a 12 player game? I'd say either check your numbers or drop it cause it's stupid."It's not a logical inconsistency. B can't be correct because then C would be, but it doesn't go the other way - there's nothing wrong with C being correct. Aside from Twomz saying otherwise." --Mith-
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sorasgoof Goon
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ortiz1193 Goon
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I am town.
Ortiz is almost assuredly town.
Friend is either obvtown or better than me at keeping townmeta looking the same as scummeta.
TL is kinda meh but I'm not lynching a claimed tracker.
Haschel is probtown for lack of anything that makes me think otherwise
Twomz, Jack, Kov, r2r, IP are more or less equally meh and my vote's on the wagon that looks like it's going somewhere.
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ortiz1193 Goon
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InflatablePie wrote:
Yet now once DH has flipped town, the chances of there being a scum neighbor drops drastically, eh?ortiz1193 wrote:Its best to lynch one of the neighbors today isn't it? When DH flips scum it should clear me/esurio.
Yes. I was sure DH was scum.
Call it nitpicking/tunneling, but the bolded seems like a slip. Like he knows there's one scum neighbor. A stretch, yes, but he says "oneortiz1193 wrote:I asked earlier if it was possible for there to be 2 neighbor scum and got no response,so I'm assuming there's 1.It seems unorthodox for there to be 2 doesn't it? I will repeat that I've never played with neighbors before and the wiki page I read didn't give too much detail. So yes I am assuming there is one scum neighbor max. I'm sure you'll tell me that's a scumtell.max" later in the post. Just something that caught my eye.
Pie is pretty obviously pushing it and trying to make me look like scum here. A slip would be "one neighbor is scum" not "I'm ASSUMING we're dealing with 1 scum neighbor here."
And he just forgets this and goes along with voting for DH and now me. There's also the fact that oritz was defending me a lot D1 (I noticed this) and that's been bugging me more than anything. And now he's trying to get me lynched? Then he'll say "oh shit, looks like I was right D1" when I flip town.I love how everyone says "Twomz is scummy" and keeps their vote on someone else. I think ~4 people have said that. Completely reinforces that Twomz is scum in my mind. Similar to "FoS: Scumbuddy, Vote: Townie"
I dropped it because, if you remember, there was a 3 way tie with votes. I had my vote on Twomz, and I thought Twomz/DH were both scum. No one would budge, so I switched my vote to someone else I thought was scum to get my scumreads lynched. I am still perfectly content with a Twomz lynch, and if you flip scum I plan on pushing a Twomz lynch tomorrow.
I defended you because a) There was no case on you at that point b) DH was pushing said invalid case. It had nothing to do with your own actions.
Not the strongest "case" ever, but I just woke up and skimmed through real quick. Maybe I can find something more concrete later. A lot of these points make sense in MY mind; it doesn't help that esurio is obviously town in my eyes and I still think there's one scum neighbor.
Wasn't this your 2nd attempt at a case already? It seems like you keep saying "my case is weak I'll be back later to try and find something stronger."
Why do you think there has to be a scum neighbor?
@oritz: Thoughts on HC and esurio? Curious.
Esurio is town unless Friend is scum.
HC has been incredibly under the radar actually. He hasn't really done anything scummy, but I could see him being the 3rd scum with you and Twomz.
@Friend: Fugi also softclaimed a PR, if you didn't notice his post back there. I thought he was a VT (mentioned this) and was hoping scum would think the same, but I guess not. Nightkills are WIFOM, too. But thanks for the vote.
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TheLonging Mafia Scum
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vote: ready2rock
waiting on Kov's replacement to talk btwShow0-1 at MS.net (0-0 offsite)Town:
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Thestatusquo - and that, ladies and gentlemen, was trolling.
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Sebguer Goon
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Haschel Cedricson Mr. Know It All
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TheLonging Mafia Scum
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DH, essi, and ortiz are claimed neighbors. DH flipped town. I claimed tracker (and before that softclaimed it). Suspicion is waffling between me, ready2rock, Kov (who you're replacing), Pie, and ortiz.Show0-1 at MS.net (0-0 offsite)Town:
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Thestatusquo - and that, ladies and gentlemen, was trolling.
cyberbob - it doesn't count if you're insecure enough about it to have to openly pat yourself on the back-
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Sebguer Goon
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Holy balls. Just finished my read... brain is melting. I'm really going to have to read again, now that I have an idea for the scale of this game.
For the moment:
1. I'm sorry my predecessor couldn't put together a single cogent post.
2. Jack needs to stop imbibing whatever mind-altering drugs he's on. All of them, preferably, though a simple reduction in intake would be welcome as well. I don't think he's scum, but he's definitely odd as hell. Has he really contributed anything to this game beyond the very dedicated lynching of a townie? Jester? SK? Jester's what I thought the moment I read his "Hey Gaiz wut iz traitor" post. (Can there be jesters in normal?)
3. Fugi's death is a WIFOM. It's convenient that he died when he was tunneling Pie, and that definitely makes him suspicious, but again- textbook WIFOM. Which I'm certain is going to play out (by the precedent set by day 1) for the next forty pages.
4. Haschel has been very quiet. In fact, of all the players in the game, he's the one I can't really remember as notable at all. Maybe my memory just sucks.
5. Esurio is as close to a definite townie as I can imagine existing- though some odd things have been said that might make me revise this position on second reading.
6. Esurio's judgment was correct on DH (their initial read was that both of the other neighbors are townie), and for the moment I agree on Ortiz's towniness. The 'case' against him, as I recall it, was pretty crap.
7. Twomz is just a very stupid Jack as far as I can tell. Definitely more anti-town, with his joyous proclamation that he'd love to drop the hammer on anyone that hits -1, even before they can claim.
8. TL - I'm not sure of. His claim was weirdly timed, but with apparently well-recognized precedent, and he was conveniently blocked. Then again, that's not exactly surprising.
9. R2r and Friend are kind of in the same boat as Haschel. I don't remember much of what they said. Though, in this case, it's certainly my memory and not lack of notability. They did some important things, I just can't remember them.
Think I caught everyone?-
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TheLonging Mafia Scum
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what about MvK/ortiz?Show0-1 at MS.net (0-0 offsite)Town:
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