vezokpiraka wrote:Nobody targetted Xvart.
Charter more like scum now.
I can see jay saying he got a cop inspect on HP and try to lynch him. We would then lynch him the other day.
The thing is the scum tried to kill HP. We know that based on xvart claim. Or they didn't NK but that is a 1% chance or somehting.
So jay may be a lyncher on the mafia side to balance some things?
The bold part: We don't know that.
It is certainly possible though. But until endgame, we won't know for sure that xvart saved Poirot or the N1 kill was prevented by diddin. Just because diddin jailed the Scum RB doesn't follow that Sotty wasn't the one designated to make the kill. Remember, even if you disbelieve my claim or disbelieve vezo's, we have a town role(s) that watches or tracks specific players. The only way that works (to catch scum) is if scum have to 'designate a hitter'.
Point being, just because Sotty was the Scum RB, doesn't mean she couldn't have also been designated the killer on N1. Granted, that might point to her not blocking anyone at all N1 (she was busy trying to kill) but even that makes sense if vezo is scum (I'll re-iterate my reasons if you folks wish on that) as the ONLY person who had even given a clue to themselves being a PR on D1 was vezo. All of my case against Sotty (before I tracked her) was based on the belief that vezo would have been the target of a scum NK on N1 and he was still alive D2. That pointed to vezo having been protected (he wasn't, at that point our only claimed protective role on D2 was diddin, he claimed a jail on Sotty) or the killer having been blocked (again, diddin jailing Sotty explained that, at least to my satisfaction).
We now know that xvart says he protected HP N1/N2, so that could explain the the no-kill N1. Even if I grant that xvart is exactly what he says he is, I don't grant that he prevented a kill N1. I'm convinced, at least in my mind, diddin prevented that by BLOCKING Sotty.
Now granted, what I just said weakens my case on vezo, alot. But not fatally so. Sotty7 blocking vezo's softclaimed (whatever role) makes sense. Sotty7 jail by diddin, vezo gets a result because Sotty is blocked. So, where is the N1 kill? We have xvart claiming to have protecetd HP so we a have
POSSIBILITY
that 2 towns roles got lucky enough to totally thwart scum on N1. I'm not going to quantify the chances of that happening randomly.
What makes more sense is that Sotty was the designated hitter N1 because they had no real candidate to block, she didn't try to block anyone because vezo was (and is) scum. Who they actually tried to kill I have no clue as D1 was fairly chaotic and I don't see anyone's play being an outright danger to scum.
So here is my dilemma:
xvart makes a better lynch off the numbers. 2 protective roles in a mini normal game is exceedingly rare because that overpowers town. diddin is confirmed as a town protective role (JailKeeper). xvart's claim (Doctor) would overpower town (the possibility of another scum power role out there does exist though). The flip side to that is, at least in my opinion, xvart's play. Aside from a couple of things, he wouldn't even be on my 'possible scum' list except for his claim and diddin's flip.
vezo still stands a chance to be town though, depending on what xvart flips. If xvart flips almost any sort of scum (or town) PR that would have a reason to visit a townie(HP) w/o killing them, then vezo can still be a town PR. If xvart flips a plain vanilla goon or any scum PR that would actually help the target, then vezo lied about seeing xvart at Poirot's N2. He most likely told the truth about KG visiting but added something to help out a partner's claim/gambit. The flip side, again play in the game so far. vezo is far scummier based off pure play than xvart is.
My Uncle always use'ta say, 'You can't get no blood from a turnip.' .... He'd say the same thing about gettin' it from a stone, too.
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I never said nothin' back to him. You don't want mess with no freak that's searchin' around that hard for blood.