If you are more sure of Jenni at this point, why are you not voting her?charter, 132 wrote:I'm actually more sure of Jenniwren at this point, but I really can't imagine XScorpion and Jenniwren not being scum together.
xvart.
We haven't even heard from ConfidAnon yet, as he has not produced any substance we can analyze yet. We should not lynch until we get the chance to hear from everyone.charter wrote:If I'm perfectly honest, I wish this day was over right now with a XScorpion lynch, because this massive swamp him and Robo are making is giving me a headache. (and when he flips scum we can lynch Jenniwren).
One thing, you tend to argue a lot in this game. This is also what I see in Mini 1008: Mega Man 1 Mafia. Both this game and Mini 1008: Mega Man 1 Mafia you are aggressive in (You were aggressive in attacking drmyshottyizsik Day 1 and aggressive in attacking Robocopter87 today). You also started out scummy from my perspective in both games.XScorpion wrote:@SSBF: How is my play matching up with what you saw in megaman?
How is that blatant chainsaw defemse? All he asked was a question about why charter was not voting jenniwren if he was more sure that she was scum then XScorpion.Kirbyoshi wrote:^^^ I love the blatant chainsaw.
Again i will repeat-what I want to know is does that make me scum? If not why are you making pure noise? Before that post, what was the most scummy thing? To me it was the not answering questions. So does it not make sense to attack the most scummy thing up to that point?xvart wrote:Because youimmediatelytried to cast suspicion on XScorp for not answering your question (over a T_T? Really?).
Why do you keep not answering the questions? I asked what charter has done to counter rolefishing, not if role fishing is better than the case on charter. Now will you please answer it.xvart wrote:To answer your question directly: I do not think obvious rolefishing is a better vote than the one I have currently.hiphop, 123 wrote:What has charter really done that has counter this scumtell?
The whole post is you evading my questions. Now answer it. And I think you got the names mixed up it is kirby that we are talking about not xscorp.xvart wrote:Are you suggesting that XScorp should be lynched because he lied about the vig kill? Or I should be lynched because I said I would do something and never did? Is that your case? I can understand your point, because I am a pretty literal player; but this is reaching after I have explained and you keep going back to the original post. Have events never transpired that have changed your plans?hiphop, 123 wrote:It was fake. Therefore a vote was in order, yet you come back and say no, why? Anyone here say that the bolded is not saying something is scummy? In fact I would go and say that he is saying it is a scumtell, just with more words. So why do you not vote? Anyone ever heard of lynch all liars?
Because some of us have played with him before. in fact Spyrex, SSBf and myself just finshed a game right before this one where he was scum. Once I have played with someone I get to know how they play, especially when I just played with them. Right now he seems to be playing like charter. I haven't decided his alignment though.jenniwren wrote:And why does everyone seem to acknowledge Charter as being credible for some reason? Because he asks a lot of questions and throws around names? I see that as scummy because it looks like he is gauging people's reactions and looking for how he can exploit them later.
For that? Being I just came off a game where Spyrex went all out buddy, don't think I don't know what you are doing. Looks a lot like buddying. We'll see.charter wrote:Hiphop goes on the town list with stuff like "really do not like how there was so much arguing about kirby's day-kill"
He is over-reaching, evading, and hypocritical. It looks like he is trying to be in townie light.XScorpion wrote:@hiphop: explain the transition from fos to vote on xvert.
Don't like it. I find jenni to be newb(if that offends you sorry) who is still learning how to play. Truth be told it does look like she is trying to scumhunt, does it not? Now I don't agree with her case, because the way I see it she only attacks you for scumhunting, which is what town should do, but nonetheless she is trying to find scum.charter wrote: Spyrex and Hiphop, what do you think about a Jenniwren lynch?
I had nothing to say to it. If he wants to self vote, that's his business.charter wrote:You could for any number of reasons. It wasn't random. It wasn't smart. Anything. It was an innocuous question, which just about any actual answer would have been fine, but you didn't answer, you had to question back.
I assume since nobody would agree with you, that doesn't make you think otherwise? (No need to answer, I can tell you're the kind of person that gets stuck on what you think)charter wrote:I don't think it's a stretch. It's the fact that he had the mentality of doing it, not the extent to which he did, that I find scummy.
So you say it's meta? Fair enough. I assume every game you've played with him and he tried to get you lynched on the first day, he was scum?Scorp wrote:You want me to stop calling meta? Uhhhhh no.
Yes, it means you have an obvious personal vendetta against me.
On that note, what do you think of how Robo and charter having not read the entire thread?SSBF wrote:2. It means that he was not reading the thread, which is known to be scummy.
I'm unsure of Kirby, but most of what I've seen is unhelpful. My suspicion on xvart isn't based on my thoughts about Kirby, since about his fake day kill. Yeah, the suspicion isn't much, but it was all I had. After Robo showed his case on you, I'd feel better about lynching you right now.xscorp wrote:Sawyer: While I like how he's got a coherent argument going, I find it funny that he hasn't actually stated whether or not he thinks Kirby is town...just that xvert is scum.
Sure, but it'll have to wait until tomorrow. I'll reread and post my opinion on everybody.xscorp wrote:Would you care to do the same? That would be nice.
How do you know this?Spyre wrote:(Hint: Charter isn't bulletproof that has nothing to do with the fairly obvious fake Kirby shot.)
How did you know it wasn't serious? I can see thinking it was a joke because it was so early, but this post implies more assurance than an assumption like that.Super Smash Bro. Fan, 48 wrote:I knew this wasn't serious, so I saw no point in making a negative reaction to it.
This is full of wifom, andSawyer, 49 wrote:But if he couldn't really daykill, there would have been nothing to gain as no one would have died. If he were scum, the only thing that he could've hoped to have happened would be charter would have claimed prematurely for nothing. Charter could be a VT for all we know (or all we knew, depending on what the failed DK means), so that could've resulted in Kirby's lynch and having gained nothing from the gambit. Basically what I'm saying is, if Kirby was attempting a gambit, he would've been found out right away and it most likely would've only hurt him. So I see no reason to think someone would even attempt that gambit right now, let alone when it would likely only have negative effects toward him.
Why?Spyrex, 57 wrote:Charter is town.
We are out of the RVS. Give content, not jokes now. Unless you want to give both. Then it will be acceptable.XScorpion, 58 wrote:Also I just noticed Robocopter unvoted himself. That's scummy.
MORE ROBO VOTES PLEASE
Why are you so confident?charter, 67 wrote:Guys, I am 99% sure that XScorpion is scum. I've already identified three townies. The rest of you are making this very difficult to figure out who his buddies are (except Sawyer, who is making it very easy to see he is scum).
You've never seen townies try crazy rvs antics? I think this is a nulltell.charter, 70 wrote:Your whole "vote Robo and see what happens idea" is inherently scummy in nature, and as such, I believe (quite strongly by this point) that you are scum. Scum "wait and see what happens" whereas townies "make stuff happen". Plus, your timing of it was bad, how you posted some, then did some RVSing. Then, the degree that you're pushing the idea (of which nobody seems to have much interest in following) I find pretty bad.
I don't see how XS is obvscum at all.Spyrex, 79 wrote:Hahahahahahahahaha
Unvote, Vote: XScorpion
God I love it when its easy.
This is the first vote I really agree with in this thread.xvart, 108 wrote:And the this is relevant how? Why should the rest of us care about Dramonic's posting in another game?
Due to his finger pointing, scum team implications, and mysterious town reads, I'm ready to vote.
VOTE: Charter
I feel your pain, I feel your pain.hiphop, 114 wrote:Now pardon me while i go write something for the large normal that started yesterday and has more pages than this one.
bouncy.bouncy wrote:Not voting (3) [Robocopter87] ConfidAnon, Zang
Now go tell me your case on me in a post.XScorpion wrote:Now go and tell me what you think of Hiphop's post.Kirbyoshi wrote:It also doesn't mean you can lighten up on activity. Remember that Robo.
Your buddying again. Do you do that in every game or just when you are scum? First game it was pops( and he was scum), 2nd game it was me(and you were scum). Pops latched onto you the first game, you latched onto me the 2nd, however it appears you and Charter are latching onto to each other. I wonder which one it is? Now i understand why you think robo is town(you believe xscorp is scum, and they aren't bussing, so robo is town to you), but why is charter town? And don't come back and say something like theseSpyreX wrote: Robo and Charter are town and votes on EITHER is tantamount to claiming scum.
SpyreX from mini 985 wrote:Thats a big part of it. Its a solid town read. Ya know, like hiphop.
And not you.
Tell me why from the posts? Bet you it's just a gut read, because I still can't find anything that says town.SpyreX from mini 985 wrote:And, yes, its a gut read. Like hiphop - ...flipped that town switch like a pro.
Why don't you comment it? Why are you shifting it to someone else?XScorpion wrote:Now go and tell me what you think of Hiphop's post.
Explaincharter wrote:Looks like hiphop dies day three.
(I'd like you to actually read Jenni's posts, so I'm only gonna give one example. I expect you to go through them and comment on Jenni's points that relate to us.)jenni wrote:XScorp brought trouble on his own head by rolefishing/etc., as did Xvart by having an overreactive hissy fit, and early on, Robo by self-voting. If they aren't scum, then they have all put big fat targets on their heads with sloppy, sloppy, sloppy play, which makes it cake for the scum to mark them as easy mislynches. (It seems you've cleared Robo for the VI role, though, since you're tagging XScorp and building a case that includes his refusal to unvote Robo.)
Robo: This is interesting-confid wrote:I think the daykill is a complete nulltell. As others have pointed out, it's a gambit that could be used to gain insight into alignments as town, or to fake gaining insight into alignments as scum.
Is it just coincidence that "lately" seems to refer to basically every game we've played together?- My play isn't very well, when i was a newbie, I sucked, then I became a quite decent player and posted large posts and the such. Lately I kinda have not done that.
So...WHY DIDNT YOU ASK FOR ANY???? Oh I know why, because you don't care about reasoning, you just want me to die. Real pro-town of you.- Vote on Xscorp looked like a reaction thing but may have reasoning
Because Robo probably hasn't even read it and hasn't shown any interest in what it says at all. I'll comment on it as soon as he does.Why don't you comment it? Why are you shifting it to someone else?
The irony of this post makes me lulz. First of all, it wasn't a chainsaw defense because I am not defending XScrop. In fact, if you were paying attention at all to my posts you would know that one of my biggest concerns about Charter is his finger pointing and casting suspicion on others in "subtle" way which is exactly what I was asking him about (you know, the part where he claims someone is the most scummy andKirbyoshi, 176 wrote:^^^ I love the blatant chainsaw.
Would it? Is your case on Jenni so flimsy that you can't possibly convince others of the legitimacy in seven days?charter, 177 wrote:Because it would be a crime to remove support from an XScorpion lynch unless it would result in a Jenniwren lynch.
What did he just say in the previous post? He said "just because I am voteless does not mean I am going to back down." So why did you feel the need to basically remind him of what he just said? Were you trying to look more town?Kirbyoshi, 182 wrote:It also doesn't mean you can lighten up on activity. Remember that Robo.
Sorry to be so obtuse. I've added in red (in my quote) what was apparently needed to sufficiently answer your question that I thought was obvious. If it had been a legitimate game related question I wouldn't be as concerned; but it was something so ridiculous and unrelated to the game and you immediately called him scum for not answering the question. And I should clarify; it doesn't necessarily make you scum; but it does make you scummy. People that try and undermine other players (especially for inconsequential things) are scummy. Right back at you, though: what was the scum motivation behind not answering what T_T meant? The most scummy thing up to the point that I posted was you casting suspicion on someone for something so menial and petty. Either that or you are super duper defensive; but I am leaning towards that not being the case.hiphop, 184 wrote:Again i will repeat-what I want to know is does that make me scum? If not why are you making pure noise? Before that post, what was the most scummy thing? To me it was the not answering questions. So does it not make sense to attack the most scummy thing up to that point?xvart wrote:Yes;Because youimmediatelytried to cast suspicion on XScorp for not answering your question (over a T_T? Really?).
Then perhaps I do not understand what you mean by "what has charter done to counter XScorp's scumtell?" I thought you were asking why, if XScorp's rolefishing could be considered scummy, why I am not voting him; or rather, why I am voting charter. This should be abundantly clear under that pretext, except in your quoted quotes you deleted everything relevant where I actually answered the question I thought you were asking me. Compare your quote in 184:hiphop, 184 wrote:Why do you keep not answering the questions? I asked what charter has done to counter rolefishing, not if role fishing is better than the case on charter. Now will you please answer it.xvart wrote:To answer your question directly: I do not think obvious rolefishing is a better vote than the one I have currently.hiphop, 123 wrote:What has charter really done that has counter this scumtell?
to my actual quote in 125:hiphop, 184 wrote:Why do you keep not answering the questions? I asked what charter has done to counter rolefishing, not if role fishing is better than the case on charter. Now will you please answer it.xvart wrote:To answer your question directly: I do not think obvious rolefishing is a better vote than the one I have currently.hiphop, 123 wrote:What has charter really done that has counter this scumtell?
For everyone's convience, I have highlighted in red the truncated sections of hiphop's attempted misrep. Now again, if I misunderstood what you were actually asking, rephrase your question; but I have answered what you were asking from what I can tell you were asking. If, with the actual quotes being reviewed, I have not answered your question, then the only answer I have is that I don't have a clue what you mean when you ask me to explain Charter countering XScorp's rolefishing scumtell.xvart, 125 wrote:hiphop, 123 wrote:You just gave one of the biggest scumtells and act like it is nothing.What has charter really done that has counter this scumtell?Then we will have to disagree about the magnitude of rolefishing as a scumtell. I don't believe scum would be so blatantly obvious about role fishing. Of the top of my head, I recall town flipping more for obvious rolefishing than scum. If his rolefishing was more subtle or less transparent and if I felt he had more of a case I would probably be voting for him.To answer your question directly: I do not think obvious rolefishing is a better vote than the one I have currently.
1I didn't answer it because I didn't know who you were referring to (hence my question for clarification). I didn't vote because I wasn't convinced that it wasn't actually a daykill.hiphop, 184 wrote:The whole post is you evading my questions. Now answer it. And I think you got the names mixed up it is kirby that we are talking about not xscorp.5xvart wrote:Are you suggesting that XScorp should be lynched because he lied about the vig kill? Or I should be lynched because I said I would do something and never did? Is that your case? I can understand your point, because I am a pretty literal player; but this is reaching after I have explained and you keep going back to the original post. Have events never transpired that have changed your plans?hiphop, 123 wrote:It was fake. Therefore a vote was in order, yet you come back and say no, why?1 Anyone here say that the bolded is not saying something is scummy?2 In fact I would go and say that he is saying it is a scumtell, just with more words. So why do you not vote?3 Anyone ever heard of lynch all liars?4
Now to answer your questions. No i don't think he should be lynched because of that, but you said it deserved your vote. Yet you didn't. Now will you please go back and answer the three quotes that you quoted, but failed to answer them.