Super Smash Bros. Mafia! GAME OVER!!

[Pikachu]

[AGM]

WAIT.
WAIT.
WAIT.

What happened to the roles NOT linking to the character names?

Kirby = Absorber?

It's too perfect. Nobody else could have that role.

This is starting to REEK of mafia rolecop.

[danakillsu]

@ Pikachu
Please tell me where it says that roles don't link to character names. I did not see this anywhere, and it is very interesting considering that you are Mario, and your role is Town Doctor (Doctor Mario).
@ Stels
It is obvious that Zazie is not a good wagon because they are most likely town at this point. They are certainly either a rolecop or an absorber, and if they are absorber, they are almost certainly town, since mafia generally don't want to claim their real roles. But Pikachu's answer will help determine this. The main point is really just that I'm tired of being right and having no one listen to me. Thankfully, there are quite a few votes on mongoose now.

[tanstalas]

Ugh, way to out the town doctor, at the very least you could have said you "knew" who it was and asked the town if they wanted you to out them, and then we could have done some scum-hunting on who said yes..

Really not sure who to lynch vote at the moment, I will re-read the thread when I am at work tonight.

For the meantime though

Town Vote: Furry

[Pikachu]

[FRIEND]

But, we're just Mario, dana. Not DOCTOR MARIO. If the role names linked, we'd be DOCTOR MARIO. It's not interesting.

[Stels]

I'm starting to doubt that an absorber even exists now.
Well, off to sleep, will be V/LA as stated for the stated period. Hope I make it before the end of this day and before any final decisions.

[danakillsu]

@ Pikachu
...what? Doctor Mario is the same person, even though he's not in Brawl. So if I were coming up with a role that FIT Mario, I would say Doctor. But PLEASE TELL ME WHERE IT SAYS THAT ROLES ARE NOT LINKED TO NAMES!

[Pikachu]

[AGM]

If names ARE linked to roles, then how is the mass nameclaim you proposed harmless? Wouldn't that help scum determine who likely and powerful PRs are?

As for where I got the idea in the first place, I don't actually know. I THOUGHT somebody said that, but maybe not. Either way, Zaziesurio is still an idiot.

[danakillsu]

I believe that roles are linked to names and that a nameclaim would not be harmless judging by that. Let us not take about the mass nameclaim anymore, it's been thoroughly discussed. If somebody has reason to believe that roles are not linked to names, please speak up because it is important.

[Chronopie]

I too believe that Names are linked to roles.

Un-town Vote, Town Vote: Pikachu

[Fate]

HERRO MAFIA ABSORBER.


HERROOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

UnTown:
TownVote: Pikachu

BWHHAHAHA LULZ LETS KILL MAFIA POWER TODAY.

[tanstalas]

Finally done the re-read sheesh that took awhile

Lynch Vote: MPR

Gollum sticking up for MPR
http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 2#p2414952

Gollum sticking up for MPR again
http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 6#p2418516

As Furry stated - bolded important parts

Also MPR still needs lynching.

So far

he has voted two people for wagoning him for no reason

(not a bad thing, kids these days think it is for some reason) and suggested possibly the worst SB strategy out there. Link this is irrelevent to this case, only important for fate being town. I am sad no one has figured it out yet as to why it makes fate town.

And again

MPR is still super scum.

Check out

how he seems to put down SSK for hammering

(when it was really L-1)

before hammering himslf

. Regardless of diddin flip, which I really am not too sure on, leaning scum despite my views on VT claims, MPR still is scummy due to this.

Like Pik pointed out, MPR made a comment to lynch someone but didn't put a vote down himself..

Bunny- Who SHOULD we have given it to!? Of course we won't hit scum every time. And there are DEFINITELY not only 3 scum, and probably not 5. You're saying "Fate's a good scumhunter but we shouldn't have given him a vig because he might not have killed scum." IIRC, you voted him as town too.

Can we lynch this dude?

MPR quick to jump on Gollum's "Lets vote off gandalf" train (was the post directly after Gollum posted)

http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 7#p2439077

Gollum seemed to try and discourage people to get off the MPR wagon not once, but twice and also calls out seth for voting for MPR as well.

On the flipside, I'm starting to think that mongoose may be town (or at least on a different mafia faction than the one Gollum was on) as he was pushing a mongoose lynch hard (I know, I know, bussing happens)

[Bunnylover]

For those of you who are doubting the Kirby Absorber role, then tell me how did the hydra know that Pikachu was a Doctor?
The only way to know is if the hydra was able to read roles somehow, and absorber would be the only way that makes sense to me :<.
But their is the possibility that they are both lieing, and are both scum, although I HIGHLY doubt that since Pikachu has always read townie to me since the beginning of the game.

[Chronopie]

He

could

be a rolecop. -.-

[danakillsu]

Actually, it would really be stupid to say that roles do not fit names. Princess Peach/Beloved Princess anyone?

[danakillsu]

Yoshi/Egger anyone? (Whatever Egger is).
And Zazie is either Kirby, Town Absorber, or King Dedede, Mafia Absorber at this point. I don't really see a SSB character being a rolecop.

[Kocc42]

Town Vote: Pikachu

Lynch Vote: Mongoose

Pikachu needs the protection now he's been outed.
I don't think Zazie's role fits anyone but Kirby not even Dedede. Could still be traitor mafia but I think he's probably town.

[Fate]

Unvote:
Vote: Chronopie

Sorry, sorry. Forgot my reads have been completely off this game.

Zazie is likely town.

[Pikachu]

[FRIEND]

Sigh. I think some role names work, some don't. I mean Luigi as godfather, come on.

In any case, Kocc, Kirby, Mafia Absorber works too. We know there's a "Traitor" Mafia group. Nobody's doubting the role, we're doubting the alignment.

[Pikachu]

[AGM]

I believe that roles are linked to names and that a nameclaim would not be harmless judging by that. Let us not take about the mass nameclaim anymore, it's been thoroughly discussed. If somebody has reason to believe that roles are not linked to names, please speak up because it is important.

I love how the minute it becomes apparent that your massclaim idea is bad and doesn't make you look protown, you start saying, "oh hey guys let's shove that under the rug and not talk about it anymore."

WE ARE TOTALLY TALKING ABOUT IT BECAUSE YOU ARE ADVOCACY SHIFTING AND IT MAKES YOU LOOK BAD.

Answer my question. If massclaim IS harmful, which you say in the quoted post, then what is the benefit of doing so and why did you say you were protown for making the suggestion? Are you saying you were wrong before?

[Bunnylover]

I think some people have special roles.
Like for example Kirby, Pikachu, Bowser, King Deedee, Meta Knight.
But then their are the common role for those who are normal.
Example: Mario, Luigi, Marth, Snake, and etc.
Because honestly it wouldn't make sense for some of the roles to be special like Kirby Absorber ability. I mean if Mario didn't have Doctor or Vig(Since he is a big hero after all) it would be kinda strange imo.
But the idea that Kirby is mafia seems off too me, I mean he just doesn't scream mafia. I'm thinking sole on the character, Kirby is the hero of the game so I don't see him been mafia, but only townie. I can see Metaknight been mafia.
I think it might be beneficially if we made a list on who could be counted as Townie, and who could be counted as mafia.
Anyone agree on that?

[Pikachu]

[AGM]

No we don't agree, stop giving bullshit speculation and tell me whether you think dana is scum.

[Bunnylover]

[AGM]

No we don't agree, stop giving bullshit speculation and tell me whether you think dana is scum.

To me Dana hasn't done anything to classify as scummy.
What do you mean BS speculation?

[The Master Hand]

Lynch count!

mothrax (0):
Pikachu (0):
kocc42 (0):
manho (0):
MehPlusRawr (1): tanstalas
singersigner (0):
Fate (0):
Stels (0):
Kirbyoshi (0):
Nachomamma8 (0):
xVEZOKNERx (0):
Zaziesurio (0):
mongoose (7): CJMiller, danakillsu, Kirbyoshi, Zaziesurio, MehPlusRawr, SharkFinn, Kocc42
Bunnylover (0):
Framm 18 (0):
Furry (0):
Chronopie (2): Furry, Pikachu, Fate
tanstalas (0):
danakillsu (0):
SharkFinn (0):
CJMiller (0):

With 20 alive it's 11 to lynch!

Town votes!

mothrax (0):
Pikachu (14): Zaziesurio, Bunnylover, mongoose, Pikachu, danakillsu, MehPlusRawr, Pikachu, Kirbyoshi, Stels, SharkFinn, Furry, Chronopie, Fate, Kocc42
kocc42 (0):
manho (0):
MehPlusRawr (0):
singersigner (0):
Stels (0):
Kirbyoshi (0):
xVEZOKNERx (0):
Zaziesurio (0):
mongoose (0):
Bunnylover (0):
Framm 18 (0):
Furry (2): CJMiller, tanstalas
Chronopie (0):
tanstalas (0):
danakillsu (0):
PaltryExcuse (0):
CJMiller (0):

It is Day 3! With twenty players, it takes eleven to lynch!
Deadline is on September 9th, 2010!
At deadline, Pikachu would receive the Smash Ball.
Fate and Nachomamma8 may no longer compete for the Smash Ball.

[Pikachu]

[AGM]

It sort of matters in some extremely relevant contexts (e.g., when discussing Zaziesurio), but in the big scope of things, it's a load of WOOOOOSH.

Who do you think the top 3 scum picks are?

[Bunnylover]

[AGM]

It sort of matters in some extremely relevant contexts (e.g., when discussing Zaziesurio), but in the big scope of things, it's a load of WOOOOOSH.

Who do you think the top 3 scum picks are?

No one is reading scum to me, which is strange because I usually have at least one person in mind who is a little scummy.
I'm about to do a re-read on the thread, and will re-post if I gain any suspicion on someone.