Yeah. Town player he protects. Scum player he dies.farside22 wrote:Also stupid question incoming:
Does a weak doctor still protect a player? I assume yes but I'm not 100% on this.
/in-vitational Game 8 - Nito City (over) after 1015
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You have the sig thing turned off?Porochaz wrote:Ok so I read back from page 10 and I said before its about as funny as scraping my eyeballs out with a rusty nail in that, I would have been voting Charlie by the end of day 1, and I would be voting Jason here. (I am going to let him answer farsides question though) My other read is on my biggest fan herself, farisde (!), as I stated before Im having trouble with her meta and whats more Im having trouble with the fact she is being a bit dickish towards my v/la, which is unusual for her, the mafia mum. However my case kinda boils down to her different attitude and I haven't played with her in a while but something is really really off. However I am finding myself unable to make a case which isnt meta and gut.
If so my sig has been stating this for about 5 months give or take
It's the bitch in me that enjoys seeing people get their comeuppance.Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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Mine? If so, *facepalm*Sando wrote:That seems like an awful lot of research to do in 80 minutes...
Because it takes ages to scroll down seven results
It also takes a long time to click the second result on google, and EVEN LONGER to click the third which links to our mod's wiki-
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Zajnet Mafia Scum
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I'm really sorry that I haven't posted more. I really don't want to have to replace out of this game because of RL issues, but I'll be V/LA until Monday the 30th for a scholarship retreat. If Incog feels the need to replace me, so be it, but I should be find to post regularly after I get back on Monday.
I think we should lynch the guy who just claimed doc and got CCd. I'll go ahead and:
VOTE: jasonMy GTKAS
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Bolded for emphasis –Poro wrote:As you may or may not know.I have a problem retaining information, now I don't like using it as an excuse and will try my best to play regardless, my usual play is to delve into day 1 and make my mark and find a "hook", obviously due to my exam period I couldn't do that so when I read back over the past pages, in my opinion, to be quite frank,I read some of the most mind numbingly dull and pointless stuff that was absolutely useless to me, which made reading up a real drag.
So the reasons you have done little in the way of scum-hunting are –
1. You are busy IRL
2. You don’t retain information (which you include even though you ‘don’t’ like using it as an excuse)
3. Everyone else is playing in a fashion that you find boring and not useful.
Number 1 I can understand. Number 2 isn’t a real reason and number 3 is just plain bad.
You catch-up post really doesn’t have anything significant to say. You don’t develop why you would be voting for Jason and your suspicion of farside is that she isn’t a ‘cuddly Mom’.
I read the whole post since I quoted it directlyJason wrote:If you read my whole post.. I also had issues with how he never mentioned Sotty after post 79 yet had her second highest scum. And how I felt he was opertunistic jumping on my wagon with the vote.
You don’t address how Volkann’s early suspicion of Sotty (where she accrued her points) should mean that he has find her later post suspicious. And you don’t address how her having the second most points (and having aquired them in his first analysis post) somehow indicates he is scum.
Jack wrote:Last page is pretty bad, someone hammer, don't wait for a claim.
The flip-flop here is fantastic. Note the short-sighted way he attempts to ‘confirm’ that the Doc is the only way there could be no NK.Jack wrote:I was thinking there weren't any worthwhile power roles after cop and that it would be best to push through without a claim. doc is sort of confirmed though...hmm.
Compare it to Vollkan’s stament –
One of these perspectives is Town. If you think its Jack think again.vollkan wrote:For thos who don't know the role, the difference between me and the standard sort of doctor is that I die if I target mafia.
Last night, my predecessor protected Sotty. Which means that, absent any other PRs affecting what happened, Sotty is not mafia.
I agree his play here is 180 degrees from Weeds. That said – did you look at any more recent games (and games where he replaced in)? I haven't dug into him myself. I need to put that on my to-do list.Sando wrote:I think I've made it clear that I think Jack is quite scummy. I think that considering his play from Weeds mafia, Ythan is looking very different from his previous play, and as that was town-play, it must be considered scummy.
Are you just tunnelling vollkan here?Sando wrote:That seems like an awful lot of research to do in 80 minutes...
Thanks for coming in and providing nothing in the way of opinion as to who Jason's partners are.Zaj wrote:I think we should lynch the guy who just claimed doc and got CCd. I'll go ahead and:
VOTE: Jason
Jason has been countered and I think it is pretty plain that he’s full of crap.
NOTE – HE IS AT L-1 SO DO NOT HAMMER UNTIL LOCKE GETS SOME CHANCE TO WEIGH IN ON THE DAY.
If Jason does indeed flip Scum (which I'm 99.99% sure he will at this point) I think Jack should be next in line. Read his interactions with Jason today and how he 'transitions' to Jason as scum instead of me.
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First, Jason's choice of words in the above further establishes that Sotty is town, because he would have had no reason to want to draw the doc out unless he knew there was a doc (ie by his side's kill being stopped).jasonT1981 wrote:Ah well, I drew the Doc out of hiding, I guess my work is done
unvote
vote: JasonT1981
Second, seeing as I probably won't be around tomorrow, I want to go back to my scumometer briefly:
Obviously, you can disregard Sotty's ranking now.vollkan wrote:Vollkan’s ScumometerYthan50 farside53 Jack50 Locke52 MOI50 Prozac51 Sando53 Sotty57 Jason (nee Zach)59 Zaj53 Vote: Jason
I have three players on 50: Jack, MOI and Ythan. Of those three, I am only confident in my MOI read. Ythan hasn't posted much and Jack has a playstyle that I find very hard to read.
I also would like to do a thorough reread of Jack, because something in his play bothers me but I can't work out what it is. To a much lesser extent, I would say the same about Farside.
Anyway, as somebody who basically doesn't believe in town-tells, it's extremely rare for anybody to go below 50 for me. But while Jack's and Ythan's 50s are basically due to me not being able to read them, MOI's 50 is actually due to an absence of scumtells. I emphasise this right now because quite a few people have attacked MOI and NONE of the reasons thus far have been remotely convincing to me. Unless somebody can present a thorough and comprehensive case on MOI, I'd advise against his lynch.-
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How about 3 letters, p-o-e? That alone leads me to zajnet and ythan. But ok:
Jack wrote:
This post is today, wednesday.Zajnet wrote:Whoops, got prodded. Time flies when I'm taking 16 hours of honors courses >.> speaking of which, gotta run to one of them. I'll post a catch-up post and some analysis later tonight.
He posted content in another game today.
On tuesday he had 8 posts, in 3 different games.
monday he posted once
sunday was the last time he'd posted
So why is he pretending like he's been busy with honors courses and hasn't had time to post? That excuse reads fake to me.
In trader mafia as town he had 93 posts--10% of the game. Here he has 14 posts--less than 4%. And they have been very content light.
The bs in the lurker excuses is pretty obvious. You have to read it that way though. One thing about your points system is that you should divide points by number of posts, otherwise it will miss the lurkers.Jack wrote:
But he obviously isn't busy with coursesjasonT1981 wrote:I dont dispute him being busy with courses, I know how busy you can get when doing stuff like that. My final year nearly everything was sacrificed to get it done, social life... games etc. I had little time to do anything else.
How recent was Trader mafia though? Maybe he has just taken on too many games and is suffering for that.
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In the time remaining I think everyone should give attention to the following players over night –
1. Jack – His flip-flop today on Jason based on ‘meta’ and his previous interactions with Jason are worth a closer look. I also haven’t forgotten his ‘Masonizer’ gambit.
2. Zajnet – The second day in a row he has provided no content and has posted a horrible late vote. Day 1 he hammered Charlie without asking for a claim. Today his unsupported vote allowed Jason to self hammer, which prevented further scum-connection hunting and kept Locke from making any contributions today.
3. Poro and Ythan – both are lurking and providing little content."I am a leaf on the wind ... watch how I soar!"
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Incognito's Final Vote Count of Day 2 wrote:jasonT1981 (6) <-~ Sotty7, MagnaofIllusion, farside22, vollkan, Zajnet, jasonT1981
Jack (1) <-~ Ythan
vollkan (1) <-~ Sando
Zajnet (1) <-~ Jack
Not voting (2) <-~ Locke Lamora, Porochaz
6 is a lynch.
jasonT1981,Mafia Goon (Mafia), lynched Day 2
It is now Night 2. Please have any and all Night actions in to me within 72 hours of this post. Game should restart on Tuesday, August 31st at about 12 P.M. EDT.Last edited by Incognito on Mon Aug 30, 2010 12:40 pm, edited 1 time in total.[ooc][color=black]patrickgower2006 (8:12:03 PM): all beer tastes same to me
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Ythan has requested replacement. Looking for one now. Night will not end until I find one.[ooc][color=black]patrickgower2006 (8:12:03 PM): all beer tastes same to me
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Erg0 replaces Ythan effective immediately. Thanks, Erg0.
Night 2 will continue within the same timeframe.[ooc][color=black]patrickgower2006 (8:12:03 PM): all beer tastes same to me
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vollkan,Weak Doctor (Town), killed Night 2
It is now Day 3. D3's deadline is set for Tuesday, September 14th at 11 A.M. EDT.[ooc][color=black]patrickgower2006 (8:12:03 PM): all beer tastes same to me
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I need to look at the wagon's from day 1 and day 2.
Jack's play is starting to remind me of PYP2 where he was scum.
@Poro: Where are you in this game? What views do you have on those who voted for Jason
Zajant: input pronto!Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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