All right. Finally satisfied with my level of familiarity with the material ITT, finally ready to be someone.
Showing my current work on current assumptions and flips:
Trust: DGB. cepi. Fenchurch.
Confident town lean: camn.
More or less town lean: Hoops. (more) Sucrose. (less)
Don't really know: Haylen. UK. chauchau
Slightly scummy: Sotty.
Conflicted scumread: Snow_Bunny
DIESCUM: Apokalyptika
I have elaborated on Apokalyptika already. It's one of those cases where my gut is hollering scum. I want her wagoned. Really badly.
One question about one of the only conflicted things in this read:
a bit of out-of-context Apok 184 wrote:Hoopla: After skimming through a couple games you played, I'm finding you somewhat more suspicious. In Large Normal 105, you were town. In Mini 909 and Mini 865, you were scum.
Please explain to me the exact process on how you went about using these exact games to support your thoughts. I don't understand your process especially when the picture seems distorted. I looked at Hoopla's wiki; it's excellent and up-to-date with neat paragraphs describing every game. Why did you choose to look at these older games; did you sift through some other games too etc.
chauchau, I wish you weren't gone already. I would have given tiny townlove bits on that replacing out post unless this didn't pull it back down:
chauchau 196 wrote:
As for Snow_Bunny, I wasn't voting her because she will or will not lurk, I was voting because she proclaimed herself as a lurker.
I have seen it used more for scum purposes then town which is why I'm voting her.
I wrote:Specifically where did you see it used for scum purposes?
chau 359 wrote:Proclaiming yourself a lurker is giving yourself wiggle room to fall back on later on in the game.
It is, as I've seen it, far more scum motivated then town. In any instance, you guys need to realize that this vote was placed five pages into the game.
It's not like it was a solid tell. I was still in the midst of questioning others and attempting to get better reads on people. People seem to be over exaggerating the confidence I had in that tell.
I don't like that she wasn't able to give a straight answer on an already nebulous vote.
Haylen posts similarly to this
H 264 wrote:post later
also in another ongoing a the same minute as here exactly after the string of me catching the daytalk, and her previous post was just a couple of hours before I posted that, and site search seems to point at her being genuinely quite occupied that day and the next. It's totally plausible she didn't read the posts about scum daytalk. The Fenchurch one today is not explained by that, and the mason thing is weird but weird is as far as it goes. Could be Paws-wagon scum but meh. Apok's voting Haylen. I won't join that wagon at the current state of flips and information and assumptions.
@Snow_Bunny
: what is your native language?
Snow_Bunny's incredible insistence on going totally above her head in continuing and continuing to attack camn badly seems on the town side of things (key idea is the going above her head part in argumentation/communication level). That being said, the Paws wagon attitude is scummy. The FoS D1 is terrible as a sudden awakening on noticing the obvious and loud tend on the thread. This:
SB wrote:Ah, it was not nice to not wait me before lynching. I still want camn love, but I'm also interested in how the Paws wagon build so fast. Specially fenchurch's hammer vote.
strikes badly and I want to know specifically what did you want to be waited for?
Sucrose throws one challenge at UK that is either townish or distancing and I'm going with townish for now with hostility continuing from UK to today and all (the one about UK getting pissed). Also some Paws stuff strikes me well. Has been upgraded to townside.
I have cross-checked cepi's activity but not fully yet. At least one V/LA is legit. But he's playing genuine mafia anyway.
DGB wrote:Ojanen didn't get NK'd, so clearly, has some inaccurate scum/town reads, but she's a genius.
I went to a laughter-coughing fit at this btw. That's a first.
I wish I didn't have to wall this up but that comes with resolved access problems. Rest of thoughts coming.