Mini 1037 - Madmen Mafia (Over)

[XScorpion]

I think that I'm the only town-aligned player.

Why is that? Everyone else looks like jester or scum to you?
If so, please tell me why each person is jester/scum and why.

[gandalf5166]

I think that I'm the only town-aligned player.

Why is that? Everyone else looks like jester or scum to you?
If so, please tell me why each person is jester/scum and why.

1. It's called a joke. 2. Something completely unrelated I just thought of. Isn't it to everyone's win condition here to pretend to be jesters? Except for maybe the jesters themselves. Interesting.

[Katsuki]

Nopoing might be scum fearing his gambit to act like a jester didn't work.

Nah. Nopoint is probably town.

That's quite the 180. Any explanations you'd like to provide? Or are you scum-buddy trying to cover up for nopoint's fail jester attempt?

[XScorpion]

Sure as hell ain't to my win condition to pretend to be a jester. It's actually quite against my win condition. No, I get stuck with the boring ass job of trying to pick out scum from jesters. Fun fun fun.

Good catch Katsuki.

[gandalf5166]

Sure as hell ain't to my win condition to pretend to be a jester. It's actually quite against my win condition. No, I get stuck with the boring ass job of trying to pick out scum from jesters. Fun fun fun.

Good catch Katsuki.

Yes, but if the rest of the town thinks you're a jester, then they won't lynch you.

[XScorpion]

Unfortunately, being a jester and scumhunting are mutually exclusive as far as I'm concerned.
It's much more important to me to lynch scum than focus on avoiding being lynched, in fact sometimes it's better to lynch townie because you know for sure you won't hit a jester (this is only good when you have a vig or such though).

[gandalf5166]

Unfortunately, being a jester and scumhunting are mutually exclusive as far as I'm concerned.
It's much more important to me to lynch scum than focus on avoiding being lynched, in fact sometimes it's better to lynch townie because you know for sure you won't hit a jester (this is only good when you have a vig or such though).

::badpostingz::

[XScorpion]

Thanks for explaining that to me, it's real helpful.

Should we get nopoint to claim?

[gandalf5166]

It is more important to lynch scum, but the two aren't mutually exclusive. Playing jester isn't all about making terrible votes.

[XScorpion]

It is more important to lynch scum, but the two aren't mutually exclusive. Playing jester isn't all about making terrible votes.

I wouldn't know, I've never been jester. From my perspective, all they're here to do is get themselves lynched, so why would they bother to scumhunt?

[gandalf5166]

Yes, but you don't want everyone to know you're a jester. Jesters don't try to look like jesters >.>

[XScorpion]

Yes, but you don't want everyone to know you're a jester. Jesters don't try to look like jesters >.>

That depends completely on what kind of people we're trying to lynch. If we want to lynch people who look scummy, they want to look scummy. If we want to lynch people who lurk, they'll want to lurk. So on so forth. I'm actually wondering if no lynch might be a good idea right now...

vote: No lynch

Hopefully we have vigs or some sort of power role to help us kill scum/jesters.

[gandalf5166]

And my townread of XS just died >.>

[XScorpion]

If you'd like to explain why no lynch is a bad idea as opposed to posting inane statements then be my guest.

[screl1]

If they continue further in pushing for my lynch even after I claim town, they've practically outed themselves.

Are you trying to say that if someone says they are town we should blindly follow them?

--> Therefore you either can't find a reason, or you latch onto tiny reasons like "he self-voted and blah blah", without wholly thinking of the situation. And you try to get him lynched. That would be you Katsuki, Chronopie, Screl

Unvote,Vote:Screl

In reference to the above point - I am town. On a side note, if there are three of us that you point out why vote for me?

I get stuck with the boring ass job of trying to pick out scum from jesters.

Unfortunately, being a jester and scumhunting are mutually exclusive as far as I'm concerned.
It's much more important to me to lynch scum than focus on avoiding being lynched, in fact sometimes it's better to lynch townie because you know for sure you won't hit a jester (this is only good when you have a vig or such though).

It is never helpful to town to lynch town

[Mysterio]

Yes, but you don't want everyone to know you're a jester. Jesters don't try to look like jesters >.>

That depends completely on what kind of people we're trying to lynch. If we want to lynch people who look scummy, they want to look scummy. If we want to lynch people who lurk, they'll want to lurk. So on so forth. I'm actually wondering if no lynch might be a good idea right now...

vote: No lynch

Hopefully we have vigs or some sort of power role to help us kill scum/jesters.

More votes on XScorpion, please.

[nopointinactingup]

I think I'm gonna regret playing in a multi-jester game with BOTH shotty and gandalf...

And me?

Nopoing might be scum fearing his gambit to act like a jester didn't work.

Nah. Nopoint is probably town.

That's quite the 180. Any explanations you'd like to provide? Or are you scum-buddy trying to cover up for nopoint's fail jester attempt?

He's probably a town seeing through scum shenanigans

Good catch Katsuki.

It would have been if I'm not town.

Yes, but you don't want everyone to know you're a jester. Jesters don't try to look like jesters >.>

That depends completely on what kind of people we're trying to lynch. If we want to lynch people who look scummy, they want to look scummy. If we want to lynch people who lurk, they'll want to lurk. So on so forth. I'm actually wondering if no lynch might be a good idea right now...

vote: No lynch

Hopefully we have vigs or some sort of power role to help us kill scum/jesters.

Why No Lynch? if you are so sure I'm scum

If they continue further in pushing for my lynch even after I claim town, they've practically outed themselves.

Are you trying to say that if someone says they are town we should blindly follow them?

--> Therefore you either can't find a reason, or you latch onto tiny reasons like "he self-voted and blah blah", without wholly thinking of the situation. And you try to get him lynched. That would be you Katsuki, Chronopie, Screl

Unvote,Vote:Screl

In reference to the above point - I am town. On a side note, if there are three of us that you point out why vote for me?

Cuz you voted last and it takes a while for scum to think.

[Katsuki]

Yes, but you don't want everyone to know you're a jester. Jesters don't try to look like jesters >.>

That depends completely on what kind of people we're trying to lynch. If we want to lynch people who look scummy, they want to look scummy. If we want to lynch people who lurk, they'll want to lurk. So on so forth. I'm actually wondering if no lynch might be a good idea right now...

vote: No lynch

Hopefully we have vigs or some sort of power role to help us kill scum/jesters.

More votes on XScorpion, please.

At best he is jester. So no, we're not going there.

@Nopoint: I've never played with you before, so you don't get to be included with shotty and gandalf

Your defence for stef post is rather convenient though. You're still scum.

[XScorpion]

Why No Lynch? if you are so sure I'm scum

I'm not feeling that confident, and I'm still waiting for someone to explain why we shouldn't just nolynch and let the vigs(if we have any) and scum pick off the jesters.

[Katsuki]

Why No Lynch? if you are so sure I'm scum

I'm not feeling that confident, and I'm still waiting for someone to explain why we shouldn't just nolynch and let the vigs(if we have any) and scum pick off the jesters.

Why would scum not shoot town and leave jesters instead?

[XScorpion]

Why would scum not shoot town and leave jesters instead?

Because scum don't know who the jesters are any more than we do. And they have to kill the jesters too else risk lynching them and losing. I'm also betting on us having vigilantes to help us out, because otherwise I think the game is tilted a little far against the town.

[Chronopie]

But scum would rather lynch Jesters than NK them. Even if the jester(s) win(s), it still allows Mafia to shoot Townies, thus come closer to the 50% threshold they need for a scum win.

[XScorpion]

But scum would rather lynch Jesters than NK them.

Pretty sure scum lose too if this happens...

[Chronopie]

Nevertheless, Scum would rather NK townies than Jesters, as they need to comprise 50% of the town, and to them a jester lynch is a viable as a town mislynch, in that it's not a scum lynch.

[XScorpion]

I disagree. I think scum would rather NK Jesters because it doesn't make any difference who the other 50% of the town is, and they'd rather lynch townies than Jesters for obvious reasons (e.g. winning the game). You have to remember that just because scum are our enemies doesn't mean they're going to approach the jester situation differently. They want jesters to be nightkilled just as much as we do.